Topic Stop trolling Ulduar
Xieje
Stormscale
Xieje
90 Blood Elf Priest
16310
Hello everyone,

Today i was leading Ulduar 25 Glory run. This day at 12.00 i tried to search people. LFM Glory of Ulduar 25 Fragments reserved. Going fresh & Full run. Spammed in trade channel. Managed to get in 30 minutes.
Where almost full, people that already was in Ulduar started clearing trash and ninja pulling boss. They wiped. When i get in with everyone alives we managed to kill Levi in less then 15 sec. smooth. But it was that some people destroyed towers so we failed at Levi glory achiev.
At Ignis i said DPS race full nuke. We managed to get Glory achiev. I said leave Razorscale at last and go XT clear trash left and right sides. We managed to nuke XT with Glory achiev. Next we go Algalon they already started without me and a dk. We where almost inside the fight but went down to the ground and died. They nuked as i said DPS race and enter black holes when Big Bang coming. Also they managed this. And then i said Go go Steelbreaker some people wait at Kologarn i said Steelbreaker first. So they went there i was still busy doing loots. They started without me so i wait. Some mage was ninja pulling and made the fight reset. He was trolling with us. We didnt got the glory achiev somehow. So we continue Kologarn i said wait there and ll explain tactics. GRP 1 + 2 go kill Chest to 40% GROUP 3 left arm group 4 right arm. Before starting that mage did again trolling us with reset and i kicked him. He ninja pulled the boss ofcourse and we start nuking Kologarn. He went grey somehow we managed to kill all together but we didnt get achiev. So everyone was raging ofcourse and i couldn't manage all that anger as leading the raid so i disbanded. This is not funny. i am leading and people ignore my calls, my leadership and i failed.
i am dissapointed and sorry for my bad english.

Stormscale-EU 12.30 - 13.30 Sambalkoning (Horde)
Doomsinger
Trollbane
Doomsinger
MVP - StarCraft II, WoW
90 Human Death Knight
10285
If you wish to report the player for harassment, you can do so in-game. The name of the Mage along with the details quoted below and examples of what did would be very helpful.

12/05/2012 12:38Posted by Sambalkoning
Stormscale-EU 12.30 - 13.30 Sambalkoning (Horde)

As an aside, if people start trolling the raid, personally I normally give them one warning then simply remove them. It's a game, and not worth getting stressed out over.
Doomsinger
Trollbane
Doomsinger
MVP - StarCraft II, WoW
90 Human Death Knight
10285
12/05/2012 12:40Posted by Flemischdk
Naming and Shaming is not allowed.

How did the OP do this?
Darkentity
Talnivarr
Darkentity
85 Undead Warlock
11935
Naming and Shaming is not allowed.
Edit the name of the mage out.
It sad that these people excist . :/


Actually he states his own name not the mage's :P
Cerúlean
Sporeggar
Cerúlean
85 Draenei Paladin
12175
Make your rules clear when people join, prepare raidwarning macros to spam when people join the group.

Tell people they will be kicked if they ninja pull, no second chances.

Tell the group before each boss, which boss is next. This way the ones who know their way around will move to the right place.

If possible try to bring a friend or guildie who will masterloot but isn't interested in the achievements so if a boss is pulled early at least you will be there. This would really need to be a nice person to spend an hour or two in Ulduar for nothing.

Alternatively, if it is not a transmog run, don't even bother with masterloot, just stick it on Group Loot and go.
Xieje
Stormscale
Xieje
90 Blood Elf Priest
16310
Make your rules clear when people join, prepare raidwarning macros to spam when people join the group.

Tell people they will be kicked if they ninja pull, no second chances.

Tell the group before each boss, which boss is next. This way the ones who know their way around will move to the right place.

If possible try to bring a friend or guildie who will masterloot but isn't interested in the achievements so if a boss is pulled early at least you will be there. This would really need to be a nice person to spend an hour or two in Ulduar for nothing.

Alternatively, if it is not a transmog run, don't even bother with masterloot, just stick it on Group Loot and go.


Thanks for the big tip. I will try that next time.

Loots was simple. Fragment is reserved and roll for transmog.

But the thing is, i do this every week and every week it went fine. People listening to me, everyone was polite and the raid was nice smooth run. Now it went horrible and i hope the next week it will be better.

Being a Raid Leader is hard task atleast its not my best part but trying to learn.
Kris
Quel'Thalas
Kris
90 Gnome Mage
15655
Edited by Krisandra on 12/05/12 13:10 (BST)
Being a raid leader of a PuG in WoW, especially the ones to Ulduar or 80 raids, is like being a supply teacher for a class of chavs. Doing the Blood Infusion for the Shadowmourne quest chain, for example, is damn near impossible in a PuG. Honestly, pugging is like babysitting most of the time.

Your best bet is to get a group of people you know and clear it with as small a group as you can. I've done a number of bosses in Ulduar 25 with 5 people, for example.
Cerúlean
Sporeggar
Cerúlean
85 Draenei Paladin
12175
Almost all of Ulduar 25 should be very easy with 8+ people. The only fight you might see problems on is Yogg and only if you want to do Alone in the Dark otherwise you can take Freya and relax.

In a pug with 25 players everything will be made harder for you simply by it being so easy to nuke everything.
Syrao
Ravencrest
Syrao
25 Night Elf Rogue
190
The only way to keep things going smooth when leading a pug raid is insta kick ppl that cause trouble. I usually state before the raid start: Failers and grievers will be insta kicked.
Kris
Quel'Thalas
Kris
90 Gnome Mage
15655
12/05/2012 13:19Posted by Syrao
The only way to keep things going smooth when leading a pug raid is insta kick ppl that cause trouble. I usually state before the raid start: Failers and grievers will be insta kicked.

The problem with that is if you're not there to see who pulled or who keeps pulling. It may be 1, it may be half the raid.
Warferno
Stormreaver
Warferno
90 Blood Elf Warlock
14105
Caps lock and raid warning always does the trick. If they still don't listen just kick them, easy.
Eolien
Anachronos
Eolien
MVP - World of Warcraft
90 Gnome Mage
11495
Yes! Get rid of LFD!!!!
Yriadhorr
Auchindoun
Yriadhorr
90 Night Elf Druid
13100
Edited by Yriadhorr on 12/05/12 14:57 (BST)
12/05/2012 13:09Posted by Krisandra
Being a raid leader of a PuG in WoW, especially the ones to Ulduar or 80 raids, is like being a supply teacher for a class of chavs.


Haha - thats an awesome analogy. I've done this myself - and its perfect. You spend half your time yelling 'No!, Wait!, Stop!, Don't touch that! Right the next person who...put that knife down Uberpwnmge. Don't stick that in there! OMG I can't believe you did it' STOP!' We need a pug raid naughty step, or a dunce hat :D
Shwanny
Auchindoun
Shwanny
85 Dwarf Priest
2045
12/05/2012 12:38Posted by Sambalkoning
Spammed in trade channel.


Why trade channel?
Treeroy
Aerie Peak
Treeroy
90 Tauren Druid
9785
12/05/2012 13:09Posted by Krisandra
Being a raid leader of a PuG in WoW, especially the ones to Ulduar or 80 raids, is like being a supply teacher for a class of chavs.

Hmm. I've led numerous old achievement raids and I've never felt suicidal, so I'm not sure if that can quite be right! :P
Eolien
Anachronos
Eolien
MVP - World of Warcraft
90 Gnome Mage
11495
12/05/2012 14:31Posted by Flemischdk
But for dead/low realms its something I wish to stay, some people don't got to funds to server change and with this it allow them to expierence dungeons and raids (faceroll DS25 deluxe edition anyone?)


I know I was being sarcastic. The original post is just one of the reasons why no LFD is not good.

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