Topic [A-RP] The Ravenhawks and the road so far.
Olyver
Earthen Ring
Olyver
85 Human Paladin
5085
First off, sorry about this since there's already a post out. But no one writes there so let's let it disappear in to the shadows, yeah? Anywho. A lot of people doesn't really know much about the Ravenhawks so here is some info on us and what we do. If you wish to join after reading this, feel free to whisper Lulina as I will be away for a week. I will surely return soon and no, I'm not leaving for Diably III. I'm going on vacation. However me and Lulina have all sorts of fun plans for the company and here is what we're about and what has happened so far. Enjoy if you cba reading. ^^

The Ravenhawk Company is a guild that travels around the world in flight. They used to be mercs, they are supposed to be mercs... But now they are everything. They have all sorts of companions now. People they have picked up along the road with nothing better to do or in need of a group for their own survival or for coins...

The Ravenhawks have fixed events twice a week. Wednesdays and Sundays. At these times we normally travel to a new place or do something that involves our current storyline. Other small events might be held at other nights when it needs to be done for various reasons, when a new member joins on when one wishes to die or leave. Always one of the leaders hosting it of course, so it won't go against the plans of the storyline, there is always a plan. Someone dying or leaving of course does not mean that one must leave the guild on an OOC basis. Their character leaves and they are more than welcome to bring a new character in. The normal reason for when someone dies is one of two things. Mistakes made in RP leading to the death of someone or someone getting tired of their character and wishes to end it.

The road so far...

The Ravenhawks when lead by Azzeron Balthon were dragged in to war, a war they never asked for nor wanted. A war with the mighty crime syndicate The Rose that is known for having been terrorising the streets and guards of Stormwind for years and years. After Azzerons daughter Katula Balthon slayed the leader and Lady of the Rose Sarita Hathaway things changed. At this time Lulina Ashleaf was leading the company with her second in command "Hawk". They fled the city as soon as possible, knowing the Rose would try to come for blood. "Hawk" however, stayed behind and tried to make a deal with the Rose and their new leader. One was made but later betrayed as some of the Rose members attacked and murdered Katula. They dropped her off in the alleyway of the company's headquarters and would have done so anonymously if not for the watchful eyes of "Hawk". He struck the man dropping her and as his reinforcements arrived the two tumbled off the roof together, "Hawk" now outnumbered four to one. He tried escaping but paid horribly for it. He saw that there was no deal to be made with the Rose. Flight would be a must. During the last few weeks he had struck aquaintance with Dentaria, another of the kal'dorei race. A female as he was male. He was now deeply in love with her and they left the city behind, along with the company. Lulina and the rest of the company stayed for a while but when Azzeron went for vengeance strapped with explosives and it ended in only himself dying they now knew the power of the Rose. They left as well, realizing it was the only option. One of theirs, Katula, had after all slayed their precious Lady. They met up with "Hawk" and Dentaria in the southern areas of the wretched landscape the Barrens. Below them a wild war was being fought against the Horde so they went north, wanting no part in any war that was not theirs. They met many other companions along their way north... and lost some as well during dangerous encounters with various foes. After about a month of travelling they came to Darnassus to mend themselves. They stayed for about a week or so and then "Hawk" was shot by an arrow, guiding him to Silverpine to seek vengeance from his past. Lulina decided the company should aid him as he was very important to her in more ways than one. They ventured off, some not knowing what was going on, others not caring. As long as they were paid they were happy. Well, some of them...

By portal they came to Ironforge and later travelled down to a small campsite near a lake. Here Dentaria and "Hawk" gave the company their news. A child was coming their way and they were very happy. Lulina, now in love with "Hawk" as well despised these news and anger took her. She had been close to death when they arrived in Darnassus and the druids mending her warned the company about some changes in her. No permanent changes but there would be some. They now flared within her and before her mind could catch up her dagger was drawn and headed for the stomach of Dentaria. Lulina only realized what she had done when "Hawk" had leapt in the way and was almost run through with her dagger. His eyes wide in shock of her deeds as were hers. Slowly he died and for the first time revealed who they were after and what his real name was. More of the story would be told soon enough... Grieving the loss of their second in command the company went on. Dentaria and others left the company after this horrible night and others followed still, loyalty and gold in their minds. Lulina regretted that night for a long time and during the next weeks became a better leader from it. After some time they arrived to a small camp in Wetlands where they met up with Maarux, a draenei paladin vindicator. Soon they found out he shared history with "Hawk" and he gave away a lot more of the story behind their mysterious Major than any other ever had. He swore he would aid Lulina in whatever she needed, as they were headed for a common enemy of Maarux' and "Hawks". Now in Silverpine, prepairing for the final battle against this wretched foe, the Ravenhawks are stacking up numbers and skills to beat him. However, the night is treacherous for the spies of Morcius runs everywhere and any sign of the Ravenhawks would lead to an attack. Soon they will meet their enemy, for gold, glory and loyalty to their company which would now to some have become a family. Soon... all will change...

As I said earlier. If you wish to join you just whisper Lulina and she'll talk to you a bit and see what can be sorted. When I'm back I'll be able to be whispered as well but I'll post info on this thread when I return. Just to clarify, Lulina is the GM but I am indeed a very dedicated second in command. When you whisper her, please know that we take the right to say to no to certain people we don't feel would fit, or we might ask why your character would be where and why he'd join up. Then we'd sort the rest IC. We don't promise anyone a way in either. Obviously if you go against us IC or don't fit the IC criteria we cannot do much since IC is IC and if this happens we mean no offence to anyone as a player.

Thanks for taking the time to look this through, I know it was a long read but hopefully an interesting one. =)
Gnæus
Earthen Ring
Gnæus
86 Worgen Warrior
4990
I love how I'm just a "man".

But actually, I wanted to really comment on the fact that the Ravenhawk's history doesn't actually start there. They have been around for almost a year, and have quite a fun and interesting background story as to whom created them, how they ended, who picked them up again and what part they played in the Civil Wars that ensued afterwards.
Olyver
Earthen Ring
Olyver
85 Human Paladin
5085
Yes, of course. I just chose this very segment to let people easier know what the RP is going around. The reason for leaving Stormwind being a major part. This is the current storyline and I chose to put in what is necessary to know OOC for those joining and perhaps for those interesting in knowing what's going on. The Ravenhawks are old but we don't have many members from that time, none at all (IC). We still have those with us, some of them, that was part of the company when we left the city.
Mengsk
Earthen Ring
Mengsk
85 Human Death Knight
2950
Before I say anything, I'll just make it clear that I'm not trying to attack you guys or anything, rather bring, what in my opinionn (D'uh :P) is helpful advice.

I'd say when you get trialists they should be able to actually be in the guild, because not a lot of people, unless they really burn for it, wants to run around a camp guildless for a chance to become a trialist in the guild. Just make it clear that they are trialists, and that they have to prove themselfs ICly and OOCly before being full fledged members, and of course the IC interview, you do already have that so I'd say you can judge a person if they seem like a person you'd like to see, or if they aren't something for you. Again, because making people wait around without a guild for a chance to become a trailist just isn't fair in my eyes.
Olyver
Earthen Ring
Olyver
85 Human Paladin
5085
Oh no. What we do is that when someone is about to join the guild, or wants to, we have an event of sorts. Either involving the character or something else if we have something planned and putting said character in there. We sort the where, why and how with them in whispers. Then they meet us and we'll see how it goes. If all goes well they're in the guild the same night, or depending on the outcome of IC (if someone has to log or a leader ain't online) the day after. But we do not invite people on an OOC basis. They get invited to the guild when they get welcomed in to the company. Then of course we have different ranks to sort out who's who.
Mengsk
Earthen Ring
Mengsk
85 Human Death Knight
2950
I know you aren't doing it on an OOC basis, that's not what I ment :) It was more that when I tried to join I had to "wait around a few days" before I could get invited to become a trialist, and from the looks of it there were one more person doing the same, which is why I brought it up. Because I find it silly for both parts that you want them to do "two" trials one in the guild and one out of the guild, since then someone has to run around guildless for however long it takes and you lose out on the guild exp/gold/company that the new guy would bring. Also by doing only one, and then maybe longer trial, in the guild you'd get to know the person on a much more personal level. Making you enable to judge the person better, and making that person more comftorable in the RP that you do.
Lulina
Earthen Ring
Lulina
85 Night Elf Rogue
1655
I just want to say here that we do try to get the recruitment done in the same night, but sometimes things come up.. Members are not online, etc. But also, although we may get along OOC, IC our characters may clash, which is not a good start for those wishing to join the Company. I have to stress that as much as we welcome newer RPers, we also want to make sure we as a guild, and our members follow lore. If you want to play a character like a druid, Mage, DK, etc, we would ask you know about the lore behind these classes.. If you don't want to read up on the lore, try a less complicated class like a Warrior or a Rogue.

We do accept any class/race, our Night Elven problem seems to have sorted itself out, though we still have a lot of female characters. I do need to add we are not a Night Elf lesbian guild.

Anywho! I hope people will join us, and pop myself or Maarux a /w or mail if you have any questions! ^_^
Gnæus
Earthen Ring
Gnæus
86 Worgen Warrior
4990
we are not a Night Elf lesbian guild.


Well...
Olyver
Earthen Ring
Olyver
85 Human Paladin
5085
No, Ghost, we're not. And we would also like to add that we do not judge character out of sexual preferences. Wanna be a Nelf !@#$%, then shoot. We just for one moment had a very big reputation about being solely about lessing off in various places. Which is very wrong. Bottom line is, we have some rules when it comes to joining and we might be complicated to join but... we do all this to bring as much fun for our own members as possible. Me and Lulina has sat nights on end planning events and so on for the guild and making up a pretty interesting storyline. It would be a shame if someone came by to destroy what we plan and build. For instance: Someone simply seeking some fleeting RP might pop by to attack or befriend us and then leave at the end of the night to pursue other plans with another character without giving one thought to the dent he might have caused in the guild. We simply want to avoid "lollers" as they may be called and people who're interested in destroying RP. Which is why we're a bit hard to join. But so is many other guilds... At least we don't make you apply at a website or send in a WoW - resume. ^^
Mengsk
Earthen Ring
Mengsk
85 Human Death Knight
2950
15/05/2012 15:40Posted by Lulina
etc. But also, although we may get along OOC, IC our characters may clash, which is not a good start for those wishing to join the Company


Well if they IC clash that would be the interview part and that's where you either say "You can't be part of this" or you say "you'll join as a trialist, and do I see you as much as step over the line I'll smack you right back out" because letting someone hang as an unofficial trialist outside the guild is just not right in my opinion. Because then should they not get permitted into the guild they have wasted a whole lot a time where they can't be social other than IC, and that's not fun all the time, sometime you just want to log in, do some grinding and talk with some people.

15/05/2012 17:57Posted by Maarux
For instance: Someone simply seeking some fleeting RP might pop by to attack or befriend us and then leave at the end of the night to pursue other plans with another character without giving one thought to the dent he might have caused in the guild.


I fully understand the fact that you don't want lollers around, but this sounds like you don't want any outsiders around, which, again in my own humble opinion, sounds a bit RP disruptiv, does it not? Because I'm all up for the fact that they then do some RP, might be a bit aggresiv towards you IC even, and then after some banter back and forth leaves you. Yeah sure he might have disrupted whatever you were doing, and he might not come back. but should you see him anywhere else, well then you can still IC hold him accountable for what he did. We can't all do events the whole time, and if he were in the area and wanted to see what you were up to, well then so be it. And in the most dire of situations you can always say "Hey mate, we got an event going on here, so we would apriciat it if you'd not disrupt it. Have a nice day".
Gnæus
Earthen Ring
Gnæus
86 Worgen Warrior
4990
15/05/2012 17:57Posted by Maarux
No, Ghost, we're not.


I can dream Harold!

(For reference:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYNdUM2gRsg&feature=relmfu)
Lulina
Earthen Ring
Lulina
85 Night Elf Rogue
1655
15/05/2012 22:18Posted by Mengsk
Well if they IC clash that would be the interview part and that's where you either say "You can't be part of this" or you say "you'll join as a trialist, and do I see you as much as step over the line I'll smack you right back out" because letting someone hang as an unofficial trialist outside the guild is just not right in my opinion. Because then should they not get permitted into the guild they have wasted a whole lot a time where they can't be social other than IC, and that's not fun all the time, sometime you just want to log in, do some grinding and talk with some people.


Sorry for the late reply!

But yes, I get that, but IC, we're not just going to accept anyone, for all we know IC the rose could be paying people to try and find us.. If we just let anyone wonder it it could be disasterous for us.
Thelrassian
Earthen Ring
Thelrassian
90 Night Elf Rogue
7530
Yes, I agree with Lulina. This is how we've done things for quite a while and how we will continue to do things since it's turned out to be more fun. Besides, if you wait for something good you never wait too long. It's a swedish saying, don't know if it exists worldwide. Anywho. Those interested in joining are more than welcome to throw us a whisper and we'll figure something out. ^^
Gnæus
Earthen Ring
Gnæus
86 Worgen Warrior
4990
21/05/2012 13:52Posted by Lulina
the rose


Well, what remains of it.
Mikalas
Earthen Ring
Mikalas
85 Human Mage
7525
15/05/2012 00:26Posted by Maarux
But now they are everything

So, you're also a night elf lesbian guild?!

I keed. I like these guys.
They used to give me free drinks, so they're good in my book.
Thelrassian
Earthen Ring
Thelrassian
90 Night Elf Rogue
7530
We do surely miss you, Mikky. And you're still mentioned IC. Especially by Sunny when it comes to the art of staring at things. ^^
Thelrassian
Earthen Ring
Thelrassian
90 Night Elf Rogue
7530
There has been loads of discussion about why how and when the Ravenhawks RP with other people. I'm going to try to make this as clear as possible here so everyone can understand our views using an example from tonight that just ocurred.

As many might know we have been away from the Stormwind scene for quite a while, currently being quite deep in to Horde territory and has Rped along with this, dangers and all that. Tonight someone came up to our camp. He had a nice Flag, nice gear (not that one must have this but it's always nice to see) and he came looking for us. It was apparent he had no idea why or how he got there since I'm guessing he flew in on a flying mount or whatnot OOC. And then he told us he was sent from Stormwind to give us a delivery. This would be alright if: Anyone in Stormwind ICly actually knew where we were since we arrived at this camp yesterday and if someone (a player) actually did send him on his way to us. He didn't IC or OOC tell us any of this and then we chased him off because we're paranoid pricks. Anywho. I would have nothing against random people coming up to us but using our background story and our own name against us is highly frowned upon. You don't know where we are and no one sent you. If this were to happen ICly we would love it if the person coming for us would at least give a heads up about who sent them and why OOC so we can make sure all is alright. It's the same as when the Rose was around they were supposed to be unknown and they frowned as heavily when someone came in and said: I know you're Rose, I want to join. I wouldn't have much issues with this night and the randomness of the RP if it wasn't in fact interrupting what we were doing. Sure fine, it's all IC and one should roll with the punches but doing so and interrupting a night of RP for something that's not valid nor based on anything but guesses is quite a disappointment. We would love to see someone randomly, perhaps they're staying at the same camp or something. But aiming to find -us- IC would be a longshot. The sad thing is that whenever we meet someone random this is exactly what happens. Well, either this or they behave utterly rude and/or try to kill us. Which I believe there is another thread about with OOC warnings and whatnot. I'm not saying this to get everyone's oppinion on the matter because I've heard them before. We're douchebags for going off on our own and enjoying our RP leaving the public behind. But that's what we do, that's what our RP is about. And we like it and have loads of fun. So if you're interested in RP just make sure that:

A) Your character has the background to be there, not being in Stormwind the day before with us in Silverpine the current day and back in Stormwind the day after.

B) At least give some sort of poke to a member who can either explain the surroundings, situation or whatever might be going on on an OOC basis before rushing in unprepared.

C) We play by loads of logic, which means we con't want people breaking the rules of lore. We enjoy lore and try to work within those laws as much as possible even though I know others don't. That's everyone's own decision.

I might sound like a douche here but it's tiring to have to have the whisper conversations with the person barging in, the guildchat update of what he's saying and then, as in this case, have to find out how valid his presence actually is. ICly I know no one would have sent him to find us where we were. With a delivery with that camp as adress on the note when we got there the day before and from Stormwind. Please, roleplayers, when it comes to all the RP I beg of you (and I'm not saying anyone isn't doing this so don't feel especially struck by this if you shouldn't be) use logic in your roleplay. It becomes so much more fun. And now I've rambled on for too long. As I said I don't need snarky comebacks or pissed off people having a go because I'm a douche here. We'd all love to RP with everyone but our storyline prevents much of it unless people wishes to join or have a nice normal reason to be where we are. If you have any questions please feel free to whisper me or ask here but once more, I'm just letting you all know of our views about this. I'm not blaming anyone for anything or having a go at anyone. We're all different and everyone makes mistakes and whatnot. Thanks for readins, if you cba going through all this, and have a lovely day/night. ^^
Elëdhwen
Earthen Ring
Elëdhwen
85 Night Elf Priest
4455
the rose

Well, what remains of it.


... Dont make me start it up again so I can whoop ya !@# with me powerZ.
Gnæus
Earthen Ring
Gnæus
86 Worgen Warrior
4990
the rose

Well, what remains of it.


... Dont make me start it up again so I can whoop ya !@# with me powerZ.


Come on, stop derailing the Ravenhawk's recruitment post. Tis bad publicity ;)

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