Topic Foul gift of the demon lord worth getting? (For Frost)
Ayeni
Draenor
Ayeni
85 Undead Warlock
3795
For PvP, is it worth it :<?
Hyená
Nagrand
Hyená
90 Night Elf Druid
8765
VERY worth it
Ayeni
Draenor
Ayeni
85 Undead Warlock
3795
CRAP!. Time to grind .-.
Horer
Haomarush
Horer
88 Blood Elf Death Knight
6640
If you're human, yes
Tribalz
Dragonblight
Tribalz
90 Dwarf Shaman
14240
15/05/2012 06:50Posted by Horer
If you're human, yes


Even if you are not a human, the damage is way to much to leave it out. Its much better than the ~400 resi u get from the pvp trinket on use
Stankfinger
Ravencrest
Stankfinger
85 Goblin Mage
1540
Edited by Ayriarie on 15/05/12 13:02 (BST)
Why would you use this over an on-use trinket that grants actual spell power? Also how is Will of Unbinding (LFR) for PvP?
Ayeni
Draenor
Ayeni
85 Undead Warlock
3795
15/05/2012 08:28Posted by Ayriarie
Why would you use this over an on-use trinket that grants actual spell power? Also how is Will of Unbinding (LFR) for PvP?


Not good since it has massive ramp up time.

Passive 780 int(only get this when you cast 10 spells) vs Passive 383 int + a mastery proc for 1.1k+.
Burden
Outland
Burden
90 Undead Mage
8755
If you are Human, you wanna use it, always. If your not Human, it can have it uses aswell, such as on a burst opener, but random trinkets are random, and most mages prefer on demand burst with use trinkets. Yeah, Humans gets both, trololol.
Trizxhazy
Outland
Trizxhazy
85 Undead Mage
2155
It's possibly the best trinket for non-humans and humans, I don't see how people even want to take a on-use pvp trinket really...
Ayeni
Draenor
Ayeni
85 Undead Warlock
3795
Farmed for ages, about to give up xD
Industria
Ravencrest
Industria
85 Blood Elf Death Knight
3330
15/05/2012 22:34Posted by Trizxhazy
I don't see how people even want to take a on-use pvp trinket really...


What do you mean? Why wouldn't you want an on-use trinket?
Trizxhazy
Outland
Trizxhazy
85 Undead Mage
2155
15/05/2012 23:48Posted by Industria
What do you mean? Why wouldn't you want an on-use trinket?


You do understand that the proc of this trinket alone is 10 mastery points?
Tayen
Darkmoon Faire
Tayen
85 Gnome Mage
7530
Edited by Tayen on 16/05/12 02:16 (BST)
It's worth it, but after 12 Well of Eternity runs and seeing it not drop once I'm certainly not going to be trying to get it any more. PvE is tiresome at the best of times without being completely unrewarding at the same time.
Sozin
Doomhammer
Sozin
90 Human Mage
15935
Edited by Rógoth on 16/05/12 04:11 (BST)
16/05/2012 02:14Posted by Tayen
It's worth it, but after 12 Well of Eternity runs and seeing it not drop once I'm certainly not going to be trying to get it any more. PvE is tiresome at the best of times without being completely unrewarding at the same time.


wheres ur gnomish resiliance and stamina hmm? i sense it is all trapped inside that glorious facial foliage.

On a side note, 12 kills is nothing, pvp has made u weak, whereby u are guarenteed a reward in x time spent, where as with this scenario, it is the thrill of randomness (and yes the deep seated hate and frustration that comes with it over time) of finally getting that item u were after, for me, its like every tier i miss out on 1 specific item upgrade and have to keep farming past that tier in order to obtain it, e.g. back in 3.2 one of the best trinkets in game was dropped by a rather nasty over grown bug at the bottom of a secret pit, and after farming him every week for the duratiopn of that patch, it wasn't until a couple of months into 3.3 that i finally got it, so u see, persevere and the reward shall be urs.
Industria
Ravencrest
Industria
85 Blood Elf Death Knight
3330
Edited by Industria on 16/05/12 10:48 (BST)
16/05/2012 00:38Posted by Trizxhazy
You do understand that the proc of this trinket alone is 10 mastery points?


Which is what? 10% extra damage at intervals you have no control over? I'd have thought you'd prefer an on-use trinket that you can activate with Deep Freeze to really increase your burst damage on Deep Freeze with Icy Veins for 3x Frostbolts. 2200 spell power is probably worth a lot more than a 10% damage bonus for most Frost Mages.

Edit: My mistake, it's 25% increase. But still, you have no control over it and 25% bonus damage while spamming Ice Lances isn't going to be as effective as 2200 spell power boost against a frozen target.
Trizxhazy
Outland
Trizxhazy
85 Undead Mage
2155
It's 25% more damaga AGAINST FROZEN TARGETS so yeah in a deep freeze it's a much better boost and it has an icd of 45s (correct me if I'm wrong). Btw it's sad but on a deep freeze lances > frostbolt
Tribalz
Dragonblight
Tribalz
90 Dwarf Shaman
14240
16/05/2012 10:43Posted by Industria
You do understand that the proc of this trinket alone is 10 mastery points?


Which is what? 10% extra damage at intervals you have no control over? I'd have thought you'd prefer an on-use trinket that you can activate with Deep Freeze to really increase your burst damage on Deep Freeze with Icy Veins for 3x Frostbolts. 2200 spell power is probably worth a lot more than a 10% damage bonus for most Frost Mages.

Edit: My mistake, it's 25% increase. But still, you have no control over it and 25% bonus damage while spamming Ice Lances isn't going to be as effective as 2200 spell power boost against a frozen target.


I dont know if you got a mage, but this trinket is most of the times up anyway, its 20 sec duration with a 45sec cd. for example:

1. U start in invis
2. U find ur enemy
3. U let ur pet frost nova
4. U start a frostbolt and instantly deepfreeze him (Trinket will proc on ur frostbolt)
5. And then you still have 20 seconds advantage of it. while ur on use is 2 minutes CD.

The burst will let ur enemy team blow alot of their cd's, Mastery > spellpower.
Industria
Ravencrest
Industria
85 Blood Elf Death Knight
3330
Okay.
Oldtrafford
Executus
Oldtrafford
85 Human Mage
5530
Edited by Oldtrafford on 17/05/12 10:55 (BST)
When you see 58k frostbolts you understand that that trinket iz good.
Kurênai
Ragnaros
Kurênai
85 Human Rogue
1780
For PvP, is it worth it :<?


Have you not seen every other frost mage go green and blue??

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