Topic Rolling System is NOT random
Kandran
Outland
Kandran
90 Blood Elf Paladin
13395
How does this rolling system work?

I am certain it is NOT random.

This character, my hunter, has NEVER lost a roll against other players, look at my gear compared to my amount of runs in DS 10. In these runs I am rolling against 2-3 others and I also won the heroic gloves from my first morchok kill against 1 other person. And today I won so much that the leader ninja'd the chest from me and kicked me from the raid.

Now there is my paladin, who has NEVER won a roll against other players. Every time I roll against someone else, I am ALWAYS the lowest roll and I have completely given up on my paladin because I NEVER win.

What the hell is happening?!

This roll system is NOT random!

What do you guys think?
Kaylon
Outland
Kaylon
90 Undead Hunter
11115
This is my hunter (I am Kandran). Check my armory and look at gear compared to runs.
Doomsinger
Trollbane
Doomsinger
MVP - StarCraft II, WoW
90 Human Death Knight
10285
You don't know what the word random means.

You've made that quite clear.
Industria
Ravencrest
Industria
85 Blood Elf Death Knight
3330
If it's not random then how are the rolls determined? Do you think Blizzard are showing favouritism to certain characters? Maybe they liked your Hunter's name more than your Paladin's?
Kaylon
Outland
Kaylon
90 Undead Hunter
11115
26/05/2012 23:05Posted by Industria
If it's not random then how are the rolls determined? Do you think Blizzard are showing favouritism to certain characters? Maybe they liked your Hunter's name more than your Paladin's?


Well how can it be random if my hunter never loses and my paladin never wins?
Celiby
Nordrassil
Celiby
MVP - World of Warcraft
85 Gnome Mage
11530
You're just really lucky on your hunter and really unlucky on your paladin..

It happens.
Kris
Quel'Thalas
Kris
90 Gnome Mage
15560
Edited by Krisandra on 26/05/12 23:28 (BST)
Well done for describing what random is. Guaranteed loot wouldn't be random, would it? Basing the roll system on your personal experiences is very short sighted. You're forgetting about the millions of other players who have had similar things happen to them as well as others who find that they get loot fairly steadily.

With that being said.
26/05/2012 22:59Posted by Kandran
Now there is my paladin, who has NEVER won a roll against other players. Every time I roll against someone else, I am ALWAYS the lowest roll and I have completely given up on my paladin because I NEVER win.

Your legs, ring, trinket, shield and weapon must have been won at some point. And given the fact that you've killed the first 5 bosses in DS normal once (3 times for morchok) and the first 5 in DS LFR twice (once for Ultraxion), you can hardly say your luck with loot is terrible and that you never win anything.
Mistangel
Jaedenar
Mistangel
58 Human Death Knight
540
Wow, this is the first time I hear someone 'complain' about winning loot... :P

Let's see... My mage was extremely lucky with gear and I got her geared before my main (druid)... So I was told to switch mains.

My paladin has never lost a roll... My priest and lock have barely won a roll...
Some say a draenei paladin allways wins... but mine's human.

Also, my dk has spend several months doing MC for the legendary drops and when my rogue dinged 85, I tried to work out some skills on her... Went to MC and guess what dropped from Garr?

Rng is rng... :P
Kaylon
Outland
Kaylon
90 Undead Hunter
11115

Also, my dk has spend several months doing MC for the legendary drops and when my rogue dinged 85, I tried to work out some skills on her... Went to MC and guess what dropped from Garr?


Maybe I should try going to tempest keep on my hunter then......
Arashia
Vek'nilash
Arashia
90 Pandaren Rogue
10080
RNG sucks, We all know that
Faylanna
Eonar
Faylanna
90 Pandaren Shaman
8865
26/05/2012 23:08Posted by Kaylon
If it's not random then how are the rolls determined? Do you think Blizzard are showing favouritism to certain characters? Maybe they liked your Hunter's name more than your Paladin's?


Well how can it be random if my hunter never loses and my paladin never wins?


In the same way you could flip a coin 100 times and get 100 heads (win loot), flip it another 100 times and get 100 tails (lose loot)

My maths teacher used to say there are lies, damn lies and statistics.
Skoddraei
Quel'Thalas
Skoddraei
90 Draenei Shaman
11195
You're right, it's not random.

Computers can't figure out "random".
Kaylon
Outland
Kaylon
90 Undead Hunter
11115
Have you also noticed how it is more common to get high numbers than low numbers? You see 80-100 a lot more than 1-20.
Funckle
Argent Dawn
Funckle
20 Gnome Rogue
130
Two characters, one wins, one loses rolls, sounds pretty random to me.

If it wasn't random they'd both win exactly as many rolls as the other.
Roesia
Bladefist
Roesia
85 Troll Shaman
8455
27/05/2012 10:52Posted by Kaylon
Have you also noticed how it is more common to get high numbers than low numbers? You see 80-100 a lot more than 1-20.


Have you performed /roll at least 10,000 times to make such a conclusion?
Treeroy
Aerie Peak
Treeroy
90 Tauren Druid
9785
Edited by Treeroy on 27/05/12 11:29 (BST)
26/05/2012 23:08Posted by Kaylon
how can it be random if my hunter never loses and my paladin never wins?

That's just the way randomness works.

27/05/2012 10:52Posted by Kaylon
Have you also noticed how it is more common to get high numbers than low numbers? You see 80-100 a lot more than 1-20.

Perhaps this is the case for you, because as I said above (and as everyone else said) randomness is random - or RNG is RNG.

If you /roll an infinite amount of times, you'll get an infinite amount of 1-50 rolls, and an infinite amount of 51-100 rolls. So if you /roll an infinite amount of times on your Paladin, you'll get an infinite amount of 100 rolls. How awesome is that! Go do that now! =P

26/05/2012 22:59Posted by Kandran
This roll system is NOT random!

How do you propose it works then? It's biased towards certain characters? That really doesn't make sense.

26/05/2012 22:59Posted by Kandran
I have completely given up on my paladin because I NEVER win.

That, my friend, is completely illogical.
Tamiay
Moonglade
Tamiay
85 Gnome Mage
3605
Bring a lucky friend with you to give you the loot : )

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