Topic Random tip from someone superious to most of you DK's.
Curbstomp
Shattered Hand
Curbstomp
85 Orc Warrior
12295
Heck even i have t3 and 2 of my alts got vanilla pvp titles and i don't find that amazing at all. Sure a high warlord warrior hitting your twink with a might of menethil or ashbringer would be quite neato :P
Aeronwen
Turalyon
Aeronwen
85 Blood Elf Death Knight
9880
>superious
>superious
>superious
>superious

trol.
Deathmourne
Spinebreaker
Deathmourne
90 Human Death Knight
8825
I'm always there, death gripping and stealing your KBs!

umad?
Azriyel
Outland
Azriyel
90 Night Elf Death Knight
14010
Edited by Azriyel on 23/05/12 23:04 (BST)
Oh sir, get a grip ... erm I mean ... I've said it back in WoTLK beta and will say it at cataclysm :

I grip, what I want, when I want and how I want. No man, girl, paladin, and so on is going to lecture what i grip.
20/05/2012 21:23Posted by Codreanu
I have never been 1 shoot at lvl 60!


Really ? Lies on its finest. Or maybe you just haven't met any scale twinks. Nevermind I one shot people also with my L70 warrior twink (she is not twink techically, just she upgraded her professions when WoTLK came and I no longer upgraded that account, but hey ... ). provided I have ramp up time on some other target 1st. :D

But funny your gear set up though. It wouldn't how I'd build my L60 melee twink though. Nor I'd make paladin either since there are harder hitting L60 classes.
Pyxel
Auchindoun
Pyxel
85 Human Death Knight
7070
I promise not to grip if you promise not to bubble <3
Trekhan
Argent Dawn
Trekhan
70 Worgen Death Knight
1110
Edited by Trekhan on 24/05/12 17:14 (BST)
23/05/2012 23:00Posted by Azriyel
Nevermind I one shot people also with my L70 warrior twink
Unless you mean green gear ppl, nice lie :D Doubt Codreanu is oneshottable except maybe if a 64 rog or mage with synapse goes for him :P
Codreanu
Neptulon
Codreanu
60 Human Paladin
12255
>superious
>superious
>superious
>superious

trol.


1. Could not figure out what i meant.
2. Can't read and "missed" the correction.
3. Can't spell troll.

Grats on being a dk!

I'm always there, death gripping and stealing your KBs!

umad?


As long as you actually manage to kill the target i don't give a flying f. But most of you seems to have COI etc left in the spell book.

Oh sir, get a grip ... erm I mean ... I've said it back in WoTLK beta and will say it at cataclysm :

I grip, what I want, when I want and how I want. No man, girl, paladin, and so on is going to lecture what i grip.
I have never been 1 shoot at lvl 60!


Really ? Lies on its finest. Or maybe you just haven't met any scale twinks. Nevermind I one shot people also with my L70 warrior twink (she is not twink techically, just she upgraded her professions when WoTLK came and I no longer upgraded that account, but hey ... ). provided I have ramp up time on some other target 1st. :D

But funny your gear set up though. It wouldn't how I'd build my L60 melee twink though. Nor I'd make paladin either since there are harder hitting L60 classes.


My build takes more dmg than some tanks. HP/AP is not everything! And my instant heals heals me 100%! Thats all i need!

24/05/2012 17:13Posted by Trekhan
Nevermind I one shot people also with my L70 warrior twink
Unless you mean green gear ppl, nice lie :D Doubt Codreanu is oneshottable except maybe if a 64 rog or mage with synapse goes for him :P


Think i got 2 shotted once by a rogue. Not counting autoswings. lvl 64 ofc.
Umemorian
Darkmoon Faire
Umemorian
85 Draenei Death Knight
5165
Its obvious why DKs with low HP Deathgrip targets, here are the reasons:

1. Our damage is increased vs targets sub 35%hp so we can burst very well.
2. We may have low HP ourselves and glyph of Dark Succor for a big DS heal after a KB.
3. If done properly and pulled at the right time we can almost always get the kill. Except if a pala bubbles in which case your 3-4 wouldnt have killed him anyway.

Pointless thread.
Azriyel
Outland
Azriyel
90 Night Elf Death Knight
14010

My build takes more dmg than some tanks. HP/AP is not everything! And my instant heals heals me 100%! Thats all i need!


So you use instant heal, get forb. debuff and get 2 shot. Congrats. And if you think I meant HP only, you are so wrong. But up to you. As i said your gear and class etc choises are not proper for dominance. I have been in this game long enough to pinpoint a self-boosting-rightous-forum-hero, when I see one. You are one.
Codreanu
Neptulon
Codreanu
60 Human Paladin
12255
Edited by Codreanu on 24/05/12 22:45 (BST)

My build takes more dmg than some tanks. HP/AP is not everything! And my instant heals heals me 100%! Thats all i need!


So you use instant heal, get forb. debuff and get 2 shot. Congrats. And if you think I meant HP only, you are so wrong. But up to you. As i said your gear and class etc choises are not proper for dominance. I have been in this game long enough to pinpoint a self-boosting-rightous-forum-hero, when I see one. You are one.


So you didn't mean dmg or hp. Then what is wrong with my build? The only thing i "could" change depending on pref is going Engineer and get the stam trinket. But for that i would lose the crit i got + whatever second trinket i decide to use.
And paladins are one of the strongest classes at 60 unless you are really bad. But i guess your idea of "ownage" is ambushing as a rogue?

/top hat + monocle.

On a side note. I don't boast. I point out how bad others are and the simple fact that they should learn to play!
Chubsler
Mazrigos
Chubsler
55 Dwarf Death Knight
90
Edited by Chubsler on 25/05/12 09:20 (BST)


Then don't talk about 1 shotting him. He almost got more achv. points than I do. O:
(It means he is a baws + his nice transmog.)


I didn't talk about one shotting him, I said one shotting the person the Death Knight Death Grips away from him (as not everyone is an Outland geared Paladin with pure Wotlk Resilience Gems).

His achievement points are decent for his level, but he is a twink and therefore is nothing special.

Proper Twinks:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/norgannon/Cypr%C3%AEs/advanced

^ T3, The Insane, Thunderfury, Of the Alliance, Sulfuras, Razasshi Raptor, Justicar, over 3k Achievement points etc.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/kilrogg/Peurderien/advanced

^T3, The Bloodthirsty, Sulfuras, Deathchargers, Vanilla Lieutenant Commander etc.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/kazzak/Thundermore/advanced

^T3, Vanilla High Warlord, Conqueror, Thunderfury, Sulfuras etc.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/the-shatar/Fullflex/advanced

^If you're interested in achievement points themself, he has 5800.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/draka/Kithkaid/advanced

^T3, Atiesh, The Seeker, Vanilla Knight-Captain etc

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/Tarren%20Mill/Dun%C3%ADa/simple

^T3, Atiesh etc

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAH
HA

Real twinks?

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/bleeding-hollow/P%C3%ACzza/advanced

Level 19 is the only twinking bracket, everything else is noobs that accidently leveled.
Azriyel
Outland
Azriyel
90 Night Elf Death Knight
14010
How bad others are ? On L60 DK's have been out only 2 levels (since that's how long they spend in starter area - 2 and half levels; least used to when i started my army of DKs,) and it is natural people are so happy about new tools. And if it occurs on L85s, some them do it for trolling or by underestimating opponents gear.

HK stealing is old as is this game. As well sometimes I do grip from bundle of players because I know my grip interrupt would likely be better than 2 low geared dps trying to kill a healer. I rather contribute by actually using interrupts.

Also BGs are not always about killing an opponent.

And I am not going to argue with you about L60 PvP. If you believe you are best player EU as paladin with agility items, subpar professions and wrong spec, then be my quest. Just burst you gain from actual strength items, and engineris is far greater... But hey, your twink, your call.

PS! Deathfrost ?
PPS! Expertise in PvP ? You are not a rogue or DW DK. And even they really dont need it.

Side note : Twinking is form of an art. You, young one, have long way to go on mastering it.
Codreanu
Neptulon
Codreanu
60 Human Paladin
12255
How bad others are ? On L60 DK's have been out only 2 levels (since that's how long they spend in starter area - 2 and half levels; least used to when i started my army of DKs,) and it is natural people are so happy about new tools. And if it occurs on L85s, some them do it for trolling or by underestimating opponents gear.

HK stealing is old as is this game. As well sometimes I do grip from bundle of players because I know my grip interrupt would likely be better than 2 low geared dps trying to kill a healer. I rather contribute by actually using interrupts.

Also BGs are not always about killing an opponent.

And I am not going to argue with you about L60 PvP. If you believe you are best player EU as paladin with agility items, subpar professions and wrong spec, then be my quest. Just burst you gain from actual strength items, and engineris is far greater... But hey, your twink, your call.

PS! Deathfrost ?
PPS! Expertise in PvP ? You are not a rogue or DW DK. And even they really dont need it.

Side note : Twinking is form of an art. You, young one, have long way to go on mastering it.


15 str > 1.5% chance to hit your target more or less ? The only "real" enchant besides xp on gloves is the 10 stam from LW. But with my healtpool and resi i manage. And also you apperantly have problem reading since i stated this was about 85's not on my 60. ALSO i said it wassn't about KS but the fact how people grips a "dead" opponent away without managing to kill it OR slow it.

But feel free to make a "strenght" twink on the horde side. I like free hk's. No wonder people are talking about 2 shoting people when "awesome" players like you think that the more dmg you do the better without thinking about survival.

Also protip from me. Deathfrost proc's of any attack even judgement. Aka i can hit you for several hundred of dmg with a judgement. Add several thousand dmg from avenging shield.
Pyxel
Auchindoun
Pyxel
85 Human Death Knight
7070
Codreanu you started talking about irrelevant stuff.

DKs can grip at 5% hp even if they fail to kill the target, it's not your call. It's not like people will listen to your words and act accordingly.

I understand it may be frustrating for your target to fly away when you're about to kill it but hey, at least they don't become invulnerable with a bubble around them.

So just stop it already I'm bored of seeing this qq topic everytime I visit DK forums.
Codreanu
Neptulon
Codreanu
60 Human Paladin
12255
Codreanu you started talking about irrelevant stuff.

DKs can grip at 5% hp even if they fail to kill the target, it's not your call. It's not like people will listen to your words and act accordingly.

I understand it may be frustrating for your target to fly away when you're about to kill it but hey, at least they don't become invulnerable with a bubble around them.

So just stop it already I'm bored of seeing this qq topic everytime I visit DK forums.


Bored of seeing the topic. CHECK
Apperantly didn't read anything in the topic. CHECK
Use "we can do whatever we wan't" as a responce" CHECK
Azriyel
Outland
Azriyel
90 Night Elf Death Knight
14010
Edited by Azriyel on 25/05/12 10:37 (BST)
How bad others are ? On L60 DK's have been out only 2 levels (since that's how long they spend in starter area - 2 and half levels; least used to when i started my army of DKs,) and it is natural people are so happy about new tools. And if it occurs on L85s, some them do it for trolling or by underestimating opponents gear.

HK stealing is old as is this game. As well sometimes I do grip from bundle of players because I know my grip interrupt would likely be better than 2 low geared dps trying to kill a healer. I rather contribute by actually using interrupts.

Also BGs are not always about killing an opponent.

And I am not going to argue with you about L60 PvP. If you believe you are best player EU as paladin with agility items, subpar professions and wrong spec, then be my quest. Just burst you gain from actual strength items, and engineris is far greater... But hey, your twink, your call.

PS! Deathfrost ?
PPS! Expertise in PvP ? You are not a rogue or DW DK. And even they really dont need it.

Side note : Twinking is form of an art. You, young one, have long way to go on mastering it.


15 str > 1.5% chance to hit your target more or less ? The only "real" enchant besides xp on gloves is the 10 stam from LW. But with my healtpool and resi i manage. And also you apperantly have problem reading since i stated this was about 85's not on my 60. ALSO i said it wassn't about KS but the fact how people grips a "dead" opponent away without managing to kill it OR slow it.


I love how you went defensive. You do not even know how expertise works and go out call me free HK ? My twinks are alliance. All of them. And you think that those resi gems give you survivability, when nuked ? What i believe firmly is that you probably never met any proper twink.

And well do post your L85 then that is so imba killer that is bothered by deathgriping. Heck, you call yourself "superious". What is "superious" and how you are better than the DK players. Or are you ashamed your random-non-meaningful rating or are you one of those wPvP heros that not only can spec, theory craft and then go make a twink since they cannot manage in max level and then goes boast on forums how good they are.

PS! I am almost certain your main is a arms warrior, who blames society of the state of PvP currently. Now that's not reason to hate death knight grips tho.
Itenyá
Sylvanas
Itenyá
85 Night Elf Death Knight
6425
I think the real issue here is; why would you want to PvP at 60 anyway? Or it could be; are you jelly of my DG bro?
Azriyel
Outland
Azriyel
90 Night Elf Death Knight
14010
25/05/2012 11:15Posted by Itenyá
I think the real issue here is; why would you want to PvP at 60 anyway? Or it could be; are you jelly of my DG bro?


I was bored, on my way out and such, I did "search" on him. 1st post was : "My arms warrior... yada yada yaaa 2.100 rating yada yada yaaa", 2nd post was : "I've never lost 1:1 .. yada yada yaa... dks are op yada yada yaaaa... nerf mages ... yada yada yaaa."

I think I am going to close this chapter, since all my presumptions on last post were correct and its sun outside, time for walk in the park!
Codreanu
Neptulon
Codreanu
60 Human Paladin
12255


15 str > 1.5% chance to hit your target more or less ? The only "real" enchant besides xp on gloves is the 10 stam from LW. But with my healtpool and resi i manage. And also you apperantly have problem reading since i stated this was about 85's not on my 60. ALSO i said it wassn't about KS but the fact how people grips a "dead" opponent away without managing to kill it OR slow it.


I love how you went defensive. You do not even know how expertise works and go out call me free HK ? My twinks are alliance. All of them. And you think that those resi gems give you survivability, when nuked ? What i believe firmly is that you probably never met any proper twink.

And well do post your L85 then that is so imba killer that is bothered by deathgriping. Heck, you call yourself "superious". What is "superious" and how you are better than the DK players. Or are you ashamed your random-non-meaningful rating or are you one of those wPvP heros that not only can spec, theory craft and then go make a twink since they cannot manage in max level and then goes boast on forums how good they are.

PS! I am almost certain your main is a arms warrior, who blames society of the state of PvP currently. Now that's not reason to hate death knight grips tho.


First off my main acc is "banned" from these forums and that is why 99% of my posts are made from this char.

Second.
3v3 matches 144
3v3 victories 75

And this is where you had your highest rating? Almost 50/50 win loss ration and you dare to to even try complaining about other peoples pvp skills?

And last! Almost 25% pure dmg reduction and 89xx hp unbuffed is good enough to survive anything unless i get zerged. Now show me your "awesome" twinks.

25/05/2012 11:15Posted by Itenyá
I think the real issue here is; why would you want to PvP at 60 anyway? Or it could be; are you jelly of my DG bro?


I'll be damned if it wassn't ANOTHER dk without any reading skills.
Itenyá
Sylvanas
Itenyá
85 Night Elf Death Knight
6425
I can read just fine. It's a typical QQ rage sesh. Nobody particularly cares because there's something similar to this on every class forum. Mages can polymorph low HP targets to full hp to troll, hunters can freeze them when they're on 5%. Does it really matter? Every class does something that's annoying so there's no point in moaning about it.

You've come here with a silly pointless argument, HK stealing, or gripping/morphing/freezing/cycloning and no kill happens all the time. So give it a rest and go complain elsewhere because it's not like this is completely new and amazing and should shock me into never doing this again. I couldn't care less how good or bad you are at PvP, or how good or bad I am at PvP, if you wanna rage at people do it in a /w because I'm willing to bet there are plenty of DKs that have no clue that there even is a DK forum on the Blizz site, you see where I'm coming from? People don't check this place that much and also to the people that do, they don't really care, they don't want to see a QQ from some other class or guy again, there's a new QQ post every week from someone else. It's boring, the only QQ posts that should be in this forum are QQ about our own class and about how annoying certain aspects of it are. So do me a favour and do one.

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