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Melee in MoP
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Every 1 knows ranged is favored for like everything, then why are we getting yet another melee class in MoP? We had the (overpowered) DK in Wotlk, now some….ehhhh wtf is it any ways?? a carebear? (and trust me blizzard will make it overpowered again (remember the DK in the beginning?) so u will play it), so why not a ranged? The now existing melee will suffer so much in MoP (because they cannot compete with a carebear) like for example Blizzard almost succeeded in destroying rogues in Wotlk with the DK’s will Blizzard finally succeed in killing al rogues in Mop (I really hope so because they bring absolutely nothing 2 this game)?
I know Blizzard is making stranger and stranger decisions for the survival of WoW but I prefer they think more than 10 minutes about an expansion and a new class ( I am pretty sure in the 11 th minute they would see it was there dumbest idea ever)….but this is just my opinion, what do u think will happen 2 melee in MoP? |
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Edited by Ancile on 24/05/12 11:37 (BST)
Nobody cares. I disagree that "ranged is favoured for like everything" and I dispute the fact that "every 1 knows" this.
Yes. Monks are carebears. Grow up. Edit - I should clarify, in fact, I'm sure that ranged are favoured in some scenarios. That is not the same thing. Anyone who thinks that ranged have it better in EVERY situation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgpytjlW5wU |
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Edited by Dottie on 24/05/12 11:47 (BST)
Edit - I should clarify, in fact, I'm sure that ranged are favoured in some scenarios. That is not the same thing. Anyone who thinks that ranged have it better in EVERY situation: I don't understand the link, I though it would be some ranged getting splattered but it's a star wars link, and a boring one at that. |
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I guess people are running out of things to whine about, the quality of qq threads has degraded severely over the last few weeks.
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So what , now even crying requires skill? Dafuq...
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Vocal minority(stupidity too).
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Edited by Krisandra on 24/05/12 12:04 (BST)
Wait.. what? OP, your assumptions and doomsaying is... well... stupid? You have absolutely 0 evidence, sources or reasoning to go on. |
do u even play this game or what? can't u tell ranged is way beter and favorite in any ways? maybe i forgot 2 mention i play World of Warcraft really dunno what u play, alright lets take DS for example, lets take blackhorn, now try this with only melee dps, now try this with only ranged dps...who do u think will succeed? i am stupid (so u say) so do plz tell me.....i play mage (spam 2 buttons and win?! wtf try a melee and say they got it this easy.....), spriest end balance druid, then i play DK pala warrior and a rogue.....i really can tell ranged have it beter in any way(raid spot and pvp) oh btw why are ranged almost always on top the dps chart?? (try a sim for this 1 since u play a different world of warcraft then me) well u say i am stupid so plz explain why am i wrong instead of saying stupid things like i have no evidence......pfff whats next...u need evidince the world turns around the sun? its common sence FFS |
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Edited by Eolien on 24/05/12 12:32 (BST)
You sound really angry. :(
When I get angry I sing this song! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmv3WlKa6U8 You should try it too. |
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Edited by Elviryn on 24/05/12 13:11 (BST)
Would've wiped countless times in a lot of different pugs if I did not have my death grip ability ^_^ |
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Well you say Ranged are favoured for everything?
Well that's true, if you ignore the fights that Melee are favoured (I can't remember which one(s) are off the top of my head, but I know there's at least one) for and the ones where neither are favoured. Also DK's are pretty useful on some fights where no other classes compete as well (Death Grip is brilliant on the Sapper during Blackhorn and also during the transition phases during Ragnaros) Melee tend to also have slightly easier to use crowd control abilities and interrupting capabilities, not to mention their survivability helps reduce the strain on healers (DK's, Rogues and Pallies all have damage reduction cooldowns and self healing they can apply during fights) |
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Says the level 22 rogue to the 6/8 hc mage. I throughly disagree ranged is superior, off my experience. I have 4 85s, and I feel it is quite balanced. Oh, a hint for you OP, try to spell correctly when you post. Large amounts of incorrect spelling tend to irritate many. |
i am so sorry English isn't my main language, they should ban all people not posting correctly english, beter yet put all non correctly writing english people in a camp?? That said i think u can comprehent this isn't my main? but u are a DK if u roll your head over a keyboard then its a win....in my opnion, and many others who play all characters u are the first 2 disagree, thats no problem ofc we can all have an opnion and thats what i asked for.....what i find so strange is Blizzard admitted this fact (and took a first step in correcting it in 4.2 or 4.3) so i agree with Blizzard on this 1 not u sorry. In my opinion, melee needs to move, use survivabilty, position themself (behind the boss) where as if i play, lets say, my mage (but any ranged will do) just stand still, push 2 buttons and win?! i really can see the difference her..... |
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Edited by Sacrolash on 24/05/12 15:30 (BST)
8/8 if you include my "alt". *cough*
No. I don't. I just happen to have 2 active main characters with equal gear and 8/8 in heroic progress. I don't play this game at all nor do I know what I'm talking about, and should listen to a level 22 with a terrible ability to present their case. Despite my raid activity (which doesn't exist), I have no personal experience with the disparities between ranged dps and melee dps in a heroic raiding environment. You've rumbled me. On a serious note, you clearly know absolutely nothing. Ranged are better for dpsing down the ranged side drake on Warmaster (as well as being the required dps role when forcing Goriona to land). That's where it ends. Melee are quicker at dpsing the sapper, can get some decent cleave damage on all 3 targets including the add side drake, don't have to stand at such a distance that they aren't interupted when fighting warmaster which increases the likelyhood of getting caught out by stuns. As stated above, deathknights can grip the sapper to make life much easier when dpsing it down, melee have access to instant (and convenient) stuns, slows and snares. They don't have to constantly move to soak most (if any) of the twilight barrages. They don't have to keep running out of the way of the charges from the adds. The list goes on. If you can't keep up dps as a melee, you're playing your class completely wrong. Each class roles have advantages and disadvantages depending on the fight. I mean, Morchok as example. Melee don't even need to move. They can just spend all of their time on the boss without having to worry about any sort of crystal. On Madness heroic, the best slows on the congealing bloods are from that of a rogue, which is a melee. Sure, mage can slow sometimes, but their slows have a moderately lengthy cooldown and doesn't last as long as a rogues passive crippling poison + FoK, neither do they have the same slow % (besides Blast Wave which lasts 3 seconds before glyphing). So. Your move. |
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Guess what? In reality, ranged needs to move, use survivability (If they have any, most ranged don't have anything to help them live that can be used in combat, thus making them have to avoid fire more readily than melee), position themselves (So that the boss is in range, that they're stood near the Crystal on Morchock, that they're stood in the Barrages on Blackhorn, that they're in range of AoE heals to live without screwing over healers mana and all the other things that ranged have to do) Whereas if I play, lets say, my DK (Though any melee will do) I just have to stand behind some boss doing my 3 button DPS rotation (As frost) until I have to move. Note: I may not always have to move if I use damage reduction cooldowns. As you can see, both melee and ranged have to think about different things during encounters, failing to do so can mean that you die, your raid dies (Through not enough DPS) or your healers struggle with mana causing someone else to die ('cause they were too busy healing your sorry behind) Though at this stage, when a lot of people are getting geared and the raids are getting heavily debuffed, I can see why you think that it's easy. I'd also hazard a guess that in MoP the raids will involve a lot more interesting mechanics, especially with all the different movement speed based abilities that are being introduced. |
Every 1 knows ranged is favored for like everything, then why are we getting yet another melee class in MoP? We had the (overpowered) DK in Wotlk, now some….ehhhh wtf is it any ways?? a carebear? Just thought I would inform you, but pandaren are a race, and monks are a class. So no, monks are not 'carebears'. |
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I feel pretty! I actualy prefer Melee, I know I know, a mage saying that? : ) but I like to get upclose and charge through people! take on lots at a time, if you are ranged you have to backpeddle alot, especial hunters, but a warrior? no, no running away! charge! make them run away! : ) |
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Every 1 knows ranged is favored for like everything, then why are we getting yet another melee class in MoP? We had the (overpowered) DK in Wotlk, now some….ehhhh wtf is it any ways?? a carebear? (and trust me blizzard will make it overpowered again (remember the DK in the beginning?) so u will play it), so why not a ranged? The now existing melee will suffer so much in MoP (because they cannot compete with a carebear) like for example Blizzard almost succeeded in destroying rogues in Wotlk with the DK’s will Blizzard finally succeed in killing al rogues in Mop (I really hope so because they bring absolutely nothing 2 this game)? Good god you like putting things in brackets dont you. |
