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How are we going to kill Sargeras? I know how! :P
http://www.wowpedia.org/Sargeras This shows all of the listed quotes apart from the stronger than Titans part. Sargeras is huge, and with a mortal weapon, you may as well not try to hit him, should you even get close. Only magical weaposn can harm something like him. That is common sense. Sargeras is made of Fire and Fel energy, seeing that in many images of him, it is erupting from his body. If it is hurting him, he is clearly not showing signs os it, or it isn't hurting him at all. Again, common sense. His huge blody is covered in flames, as you see on images. That much fire will definatly cause an increase in temperature. A third time, common sense. If you read War of the Ancients, you will see that Sargeras communicates telepathicly to his demons and, I think, Illidan. Lesser demons such as Nathrezim use telepethy, so it is clearly in Sargeras' reach. Illusions are in his grasp. he made a wonderous form of himself to present to the Eredar when he first met them. If he showed his real form to them, they most likely would have declined. He can enter mortal bodied. he stayed in Aegwynn's womb for about a millenium, and possessed Medivh's body when he was not yet born. That is obvious. A lot of fire means a lot of light. You may as well be looking at a sun. That is fairly obvious too. He is a giant, a former Titan. Those guys are strong at a basic, so Sargeras still retains his strength, and most likely been empowered by demon energy. He is the Lord of the Legion for a reason. If Mannoroth or Archimonde were more powerful than him, they would be the leaders of the Burning Legion, not Sargeras. In the Well of Eternity dungeon, Mannoroth says that "I will not return to him in failure!" This implies that he is scared of what Sargeras will do to him should he fail, which Mannoroth did. In the War of the Ancients book, when the battle against the Legion turned in the Night Elves' favor, the only sign of stress in Archimonde was the twitching in his tail. This, too, implies that he is scared of defeat, and so implies that he is frightenedo f Sargeras and how he punishes failure. The only reason Sargeras probably let them live was their usefulness. |
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Edited by Kembra on 08/06/12 15:31 (BST)
Actually, on that page you linked if you scroll down to the "Skill and abilities" section it says:
His natural attacks are more powerful than other titans But due to the fact that they naturally possess magical powers this statements could also include magical prowess aswell as physical strength. So interpret that was you will. He was the Champion of the Pantheon for a reason, so he IS going to be more powerful than most, if not the most powerful, and given his corruption he has probably only gone and become more powerful. |
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Also It's logical that he is one of the strongest, if not the strongest because don't forget, he had the most powerful weapon in the universe, I really doubt the Pantheon would have such a weapon in the hands of a lesser warrior.
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Edited by Knell on 08/06/12 15:36 (BST)
Here's his "Powers" from Wowpedia:
He has been shown to display the following powers: |
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His molten armor can nearly burn your eyes - LOL, only NEARLY.
Sargeras won't go near that blade if he knows what is good for him, same could have been said with LK though and ashbringer :S Foolish villains. I don't think anyone knows where he is anyway - maybe the Titans do but they would have dealt with him if they could have I think unless we get another story of holding back crap. Unfortunately not much else to say here, the real big bad in this game is neglected from current lore and he probs is due to be retconed out of the story in place of a old god, something that clues already say is going to happen. :( Can't find the blue post but I remember them saying the old gods are responsible for sargeras now rather than the nazrethim. >_> If this is the case then all we need is exodar to crash into his face. |
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Ofc he is stronger than most others such as mortals but none of what you said points to him being stronger than the other titans (especially thinking about Aman'thul).
Tbh i'd see it as more logical to give it to the wisest, ie. you dont give chuck norris a nuke, you entrust em to someone who is "wise"(not saying sargeras is/was the wisest, just that your argument dosn't make sence in my eyes). |
I never referred to the other Titans. I was referring to mortals and other demons. |
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Well then we are on the same page, yes i agree that he is stronger than, well basically everyone EXCEPT the other titans.
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Actually, if I refer you to yet another quote: As a former Champion of the Pantheon, Sargeras is nearly impervious to physical damage. He is highly resistant to magical attacks. His natural attacks are more powerful than other titans. |
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Personally, I think you are overestimating his power and abilities while underestimating our own.
3. He is stronger than any Titan While he may have been the pantheon's greatest champion, it doesn't say if he could only take any of the titans 1V1 or if he could take down all of them. Next, the titans themselves don't seem too impressive. How many of them were required to defeat the old gods? There were 4 titans that empowered the 5 dragon flights (Aman’Thul, Eonar, Norgannon and Khaz’goroth). I would assume they were the ones battling the old gods (Perhaps there were more). The number of the old gods is to my knowledge unknown, but it is rumored that there are 4 or 5 of them. So we are looking at a 4v4 or a 4v5 battle. Did the titans defeat them? Yes. Did they destroy them? No. Why? Why did they decide to simply imprison them instead of completely eliminating the threat? Perhaps they weren't strong enough to deliver the final blow. I do know who delivered the killing blow to C'Thun and Yogg-Saron though. A raid of mortals that came in there with determination to put an stop to their meddling. Sargeras will fall, just like anyone else that threatens the safety of Azeroth. One last thing, before I finish this post. I am not into wow novels, so I don't how much of this is accurate. I'll simply leave it up to you to decide. Just in case we fail, there might be someone who might end him. In the novel The Sundering, it is hinted that the Old Gods are more powerful than the Titans, including even Sargeras. It is said that they are extremely powerful and that the combined might of many Titans are required to subdue them. It is also stated that if they are freed, even Sargeras will plead for peace of death. This is further supported by their statement that little effort is needed to destroy Sargeras and turn his Burning Legion into their minions. |
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One thing: A raid of mortals did not deliver the killing blow! We just hit them over the head before they could regain enough of their powers and sent them scurrying back to their lairs until they get the power to come back and get hit on the head again.
In fact, that the Old Gods had thousands of years to regain some of their powers just to get sent back to their prisons by a raid group proves that the Titans gave them a good thrashing. |
Personally, I think you are overestimating his power and abilities while underestimating our own.3. He is stronger than any Titan WoW lore is stupid, it takes the titans combined might just to subdue the old gods, yet 40 MORTALS, who's power is pretty pathetic to the titans, killed them. It is completely stupid and irrational to say that the mortal beings of Azeroth could defeat such opponents, where as beings such as the titans who are basically god like in power compared to us couldn't "do the job" and finish them off. We are able to kill such beings because the devs say we can, not because we are better than they are, or more powerful. Game mechanics don't equate into lore I'm afraid. |
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WoW lore is stupid, it takes the titans combined might just to subdue the old gods, yet 40 MORTALS, who's power is pretty pathetic to the titans, killed them. Excuses, excuses. That's all I'm hearing :P |
WoW lore is stupid, it takes the titans combined might just to subdue the old gods, yet 40 MORTALS, who's power is pretty pathetic to the titans, killed them. How else can you explain it? If the Titans couldn't deliver the killing blow, how on earth can we? |
I am pretty sure we did not kill them. There was a reason that the titans didn't just get rid of them already themselves, and just imprisoned them. We probably fought some physicial "illusions" of the old gods, and not the old gods themselves, like Aegwynn fought the avatar of Sargeras. It has been speculated what would happen if the old gods was just wiped out, maybe Azeroth would explode, or simply vanish, and so on, so on. But there was a reason they were just imprisoned, shackled, and not killed by the titans. We heroes of Azeroth, have killed nothing big and bad throughout our time. As mentioned, I doubt we killed any old gods, we sent Kil'jaeden away while he was not at full power, at all, the Lich King proved to us that he was just playing with us, and killed us with a single ability, he was unlucky that the Ashbringer destroyed Frostmourne. WE did not kill Deathwing, while we had a part of it, then it was the dragonsoul which ended Deathwing. |
Kembra seemed to do that. Do not mistaken mate, I did not try to overshadow your post, I just extended it to make it believeable! |
Sorry, It's Friday, I've had some drinks. :/ |
