Topic Blood Elf monk lore?
Grandak
Spinebreaker
Grandak
85 Orc Death Knight
6190
Hello there.

Im wondering what the lore of a Blood Elf monk is, i admit i dont know all of the WC story but i do know a lot, but just not everything yet but im very interested in it.
But can a Blood Elf become a monk? For me i dont really see it happening at all, as far as i know they all use magic and mana type spells/abilities am i right?

And Blood Elves dont really seem the type to respect the nature and life around them anymore (or maybe now they do ever since they calmed down after Tbc).

So whats the lore behind the Blood Elf Monk?
Why would a Blood Elf become a monk and why would it be allowed by the Pandaren?

Thanks.
Skrauhg
Blade's Edge
Skrauhg
90 Worgen Death Knight
13265
There is already a Blood Elf Monk in game, one of the adds from the third boss in Magister's Terrace. Perhaps, like Draenei and Humans, they have always been able to be monks. They probably learned to be monks while they were High Elves and in the Alliance.
Gunnell
Argent Dawn
Gunnell
85 Worgen Druid
5790
Monks of all races are taught by the Pandaren representatives to their faction at the start of Mists of Pandaria.
Athanis
Argent Dawn
Athanis
84 Blood Elf Warlock
4435
Edited by Athanis on 11/06/12 13:52 (BST)
Monks have been a part of Azeroth even without the pandaren. Monks do not have to be taught by the pandaren.

We have the scarlet monks, clearly they are there to confirm this, as they are NPC's that fights with their fists.

The fact that worgen nor goblins cannot become monks, strikes me as a rather strange thing. I cannot see why these two would be left out in this.

Basically, all races could become monks, worgen and goblin is a strange case.

And it does make me wonder, why so fixated about exactly the blood elf monks? I have not seen a single orc, troll or tauren monk. Atleast we do see a blood elf monk, as explained in a earlier post. Why wonder about the blood elven monk?
Kurgul
Scarshield Legion
Kurgul
90 Orc Warrior
8520
11/06/2012 13:51Posted by Athanis
The fact that worgen nor goblins cannot become monks, strikes me as a rather strange thing. I cannot see why these two would be left out in this.


Wild speculation off the starboard bow!

Becoming a monk requires a certain... "inner peace", or "enlightenment" if you will, which the goblin and worgen are unable to achieve, due to natural greed and desire for worldly possessions (in the goblins case), and an animalistic inner rage that they must contend with (in the worgen case) precluding them for achieving the necessary inner peace for becoming a monk.

Wild speculation has passed! All hands, back to stations!
Athanis
Argent Dawn
Athanis
84 Blood Elf Warlock
4435
I would say that these reasons are entirely valid. So far.

I am not so sure when it comes to the forsaken though, the undead.

Their emotions are rather dull, so it may be possible for them to find this "inner peace" or whatever.

Blood elves are actually much more capable of finding that inner peace than any other races, perhaps with the exception of the pandaren, as they were forced to meditate for atleast an hour each day, in order to handle their magical addiction. They have learned how to settle their bodies, how to find peace, even during a heavy addiction, so again, blood elves are perfectly valid (Just had to note this)

You do seem to have a point with your post, I am not so sure how far with the forsaken though, as it is angry emotions which seems to rule a majority of undead, and therefor it will again bring up the idea of their availability to actuall find peace or enlightenment.
Reynolt
Argent Dawn
Reynolt
25 Worgen Rogue
190
I was under the impression that the sole reason worgen and goblins can't become monks, is to ensure that they don't remain as the too-often-played races. It's an effort to make people play the pre-MoP races as well, I believe.
Athanis
Argent Dawn
Athanis
84 Blood Elf Warlock
4435
Edited by Athanis on 12/06/12 01:22 (BST)
12/06/2012 00:19Posted by Reynolt
I was under the impression that the sole reason worgen and goblins can't become monks, is to ensure that they don't remain as the too-often-played races. It's an effort to make people play the pre-MoP races as well, I believe.


I am pretty sure that Worgen and Goblin have not been THAT popular.

But it could be right.

I am pretty sure they could make people play the pre-cata races more if blizzard clenched their asscheeks tight together, and start updating all the vanilla and TBC races, preferable close after each other, rather than take them one after one over a long period, as they seem to plan.
Kurgul
Scarshield Legion
Kurgul
90 Orc Warrior
8520
12/06/2012 00:19Posted by Reynolt
I was under the impression that the sole reason worgen and goblins can't become monks, is to ensure that they don't remain as the too-often-played races. It's an effort to make people play the pre-MoP races as well, I believe.


From a gameplay perspective, this is probably the reason, but we're discussing the in-game lore explaining why they can't be monks. ;)
Gunnell
Argent Dawn
Gunnell
85 Worgen Druid
5790
12/06/2012 00:19Posted by Reynolt
I was under the impression that the sole reason worgen and goblins can't become monks, is to ensure that they don't remain as the too-often-played races. It's an effort to make people play the pre-MoP races as well, I believe.


Humans and Blood Elves. Goblins are also the least played race on the Horde.

Also the inner-peace argument doesn't work, since the irony is that it would mean Monk would make Worgen the race it would make the most sense as. They're constantly fighting against their 'feral side' and impulses, so maintaining their positive "chi" and "inner-peace" would make them much more inclined to follow that path.

Goblins? Yoga classes. 'Nuff said.

Feel free to support the idea here:
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4211605127

It's on an EU forum so don't count on much response mind you.
Ayril
Argent Dawn
Ayril
90 Pandaren Mage
7045
12/06/2012 12:52Posted by Gunnell
Also the inner-peace argument doesn't work, since the irony is that it would mean Monk would make Worgen the race it would make the most sense as. They're constantly fighting against their 'feral side' and impulses, so maintaining their positive "chi" and "inner-peace" would make them much more inclined to follow that path.


Worgen aren't fighting their feral side, they drank from the three wells back in Gilneas (the Kaldorei ones that enabled them to control themselves), they are in full control.
I think they can be monks, to some extent the class is just mechanics for a lightly geared fighter who uses their hands and fists, like a warrior without a sword. Obviously it changes for each race- like the Paladins and Druids and certain other classes, it's mechanics I spose' (I could be wrong). As for a mechanic reason why Goblins and Worgen can't be monks is probably because Blizzard don't want to make some new animations to their newest race when they did that only a few years ago.
Ghorik
Frostmane
Ghorik
85 Human Death Knight
6450
To be seriously serious: There is no specific lore targeting any race. So Monks are... Look, even I don't know how to explain this. But according their understanding; Monks should be grey side. But they won't.

These Monks we're talking about has nothing common with existing Monks around. These Monks have been trained by Pandarens.

So... They're monks. Keanu Reeves with Chuck Norris. I guess..

To be serious like Al Gore: Blood Elven Monks were the main characters back to Titanic days. They are the main reason that Sargeras started to become power hunger. Because of peaceful methods of Blood Elven Monks, Sargeras suddenly understood that he was always hating far eastern cultures. Therefore, he used Highborne Night Elves to destroy Azeroth.

I found a good video on Youtube that summarizes the lore around Blood Elven Monks and gives us a deeper insight into the nature of the class combination, how it works and can be integrated into the current Blood Elven lore as well as Blizzard's motives, ideas and desires behind it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY


I just love you. I seriously love you.
Zainstorm
Nagrand
Zainstorm
90 Dwarf Hunter
16880
Edited by Zainstorm on 14/08/12 19:06 (BST)
14/08/2012 18:30Posted by Kasteen
for some reason a suspect a rickroll, i wont be using that link. anyone else feel free


So close... But no prize!

Its the Russian Rick Roll. The Trolololol Song!
Morrigwen
Argent Dawn
Morrigwen
85 Worgen Druid
8260
11/06/2012 13:51Posted by Athanis
The fact that worgen nor goblins cannot become monks, strikes me as a rather strange thing. I cannot see why these two would be left out in this.


I thought it was because both of these races starting zones are time locked in a certain time era where Panderans would not be present.

All Goblins/Worgens made come from the time where the Cataclysm had just begun. Abit like Death Knights, all Death Knights created are from when Arthas was still alive and raising them.
Taril
Khadgar
Taril
90 Draenei Death Knight
10280
Edited by Taril on 14/08/12 21:35 (BST)
10/06/2012 16:40Posted by Grandak
And Blood Elves dont really seem the type to respect the nature and life around them anymore (or maybe now they do ever since they calmed down after Tbc).


Some do, in fact there are a few Blood Elf Druid NPC's in game (They don't have the ability to shapeshift though (Apart from the one boss in the Botanica))

12/06/2012 00:19Posted by Reynolt
I was under the impression that the sole reason worgen and goblins can't become monks, is to ensure that they don't remain as the too-often-played races. It's an effort to make people play the pre-MoP races as well, I believe.


The only reason for no Worgen and Goblin Monks is that Blizz said that they'd just released them and that they don't want to re-do their animations (To incorporate all the attacks and stuff Monks will do) it has nothing to do with either their Lore (Because it'd still be the same as all other races besides Panderen) nor with the wanting other races to be played.
Malizïa
Sylvanas
Malizïa
85 Draenei Death Knight
4615
14/08/2012 19:06Posted by Zainstorm
for some reason a suspect a rickroll, i wont be using that link. anyone else feel free


So close... But no prize!

Its the Russian Rick Roll. The Trolololol Song!


Indeed. I felt it had the most relevence regarding the topic :)

If I had posted a rick-roll I would've gone off topic!

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