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I would like for blizzard to bring back old PVP battle system, but ONLY just to earn PVP ranks in old ways, without loosing them and to do more stuff in WoW when you are bored.
I mean Not for obtaining PVP gear.
Also some dishonorable kills, it would be good. So when you have the best gear ( full newest season ) and you are not interested in PVE. Either you do achievements or arenas. This could add new way of doing something when there is no more things to do.
It would be the same way to do something as the achievements came. But only focused on PVP.

There would have to be a lot of minor changes but it could work.

Because there is no need for people ( with best gear and with honor gear) to be in BGs.
They just go RBGs or arenas to get better gear. So now even people with the best gear would have a reason why go to BGs. Also there would be less waiting queue time.

It would be less difficult as in Vanilla WoW because It was really life sucking if you have to kill like million people per day and when you don´t play, you lose your rank.

This would not include lossing ranks, And it would have reduced difficulty to obtain.

And please dont write it is too difficult because as I said it would be easier and also obtaining achievement 250 000 Honorable Kills is also hard.

Thanks.

Probably something like that, however ranks still exist but based on RBG rating, so they would have to come up with new titles?
In fact RBG has all you mention, but problem is RBG is just so casual unfriendly. If it would have been implemented properly, it would have been great.

Basically you would be able to obtain them either from RBGs, or for people who are bored or dont have that community on their server to create party of 10 people.

So as blizzard said, every individual should to get on that level of gear or that stuff as person who has millions of friends.

It is a great idea. Titles may bring a new dimension and way of motivation for PvP players, but not so well in the current title system.

Personally, I would like to get a title but like you said, it is impossible to make a good group for a RBG battle on such a realm like for example Drak thul is (playing for the Alliance). It is another problem of which I think Blizzard does not care about.

Blizzard really should take care of the statement Wrymn wrote - "same oppurtunities for all the people playing". I think Blizzard is making WoW easier and more friendly for an average-player, so why do not to manage the PvP system in this way.

Indeed. Now when you go just few arenas per week and have your conquest cap. You could go some BGs and work on your titles.

Be careful what you wish for, it might just come true.

You basically want the old system, but erase all drawbacks of it. Nothing prevents you from playing exactly that way. Make premade, farm 14 hours a day, 80-100 hours a week, keep that for 2 months... if you'll survive, you can have the feeling of rank 14.

You probably do not remember that a lot of those who got rank 14 left the game right after that or never wanted to see a single flag again, right?

Nobody would do it for no reward. The point is a lot of people would like that titles above their heads and 60 pvp set for transmoglification such as Grand Marshal.

19/06/2012 07:13Posted by Karkule

Make premade, farm 14 hours a day, 80-100 hours a week, keep that for 2 months

And as I wrote, it would be less difficult. Only for people who wants that achieve or what else it could be. You have to farm HKs also for achievement 250 000 honorable kills.

Completely in favour of this. The problem with the current pvp system is that rbgs are based on the premise that you can actually get together another nine people to go in with. This cannot easily happen in certain types of realms, and its extremely difficult in RP realms.
Although I enjoy rbgs when they are available, I also enjoyed a great deal the old vanilla days and fighting for the titles on a weekly basis. I would have loved to see those days return.

Yes there are a lot of realms with low populations and some players are unable to find that 9 people to play with. So that is another reason why should blizzard add this new way of earning ranks.

Completely in favour of this. The problem with the current pvp system is that rbgs are based on the premise that you can actually get together another nine people to go in with. This cannot easily happen in certain types of realms, and its extremely difficult in RP realms.
Although I enjoy rbgs when they are available, I also enjoyed a great deal the old vanilla days and fighting for the titles on a weekly basis. I would have loved to see those days return.

It was impossible to get high rank unless you have had premade in the vanilla system as well. The only exception was if there was no premade on your faction at all (or the premade was worse than pugs).

If you can't get premade on your realm for RBGS, you can get friends from other realms. Or you can use openraid for example, there's a lot of premades for HK farming.

19/06/2012 09:41Posted by Karkule

It was impossible to get high rank unless you have had premade in the vanilla system as well. The only exception was if there was no premade on your faction at all (or the premade was worse than pugs).

hottie above me is completely right also there was no crossrealm battleground feature until half way through the vanilla wow so half of battlegrounds were premade vs premade matches.

19/06/2012 09:41Posted by Karkule

It was impossible to get high rank unless you have had premade in the vanilla system

Yes Indeed, it was impossible. But WoW is all about change, everything still changes. So they would reduce the difficulty to obtain that points, so every individual can earn it, so for individuals in low populated realms and people without friends. It could be a chance for people on low populated realm, or without friends.

If your faction struggles to come up with rbg groups due to its population size (as opposed to releasing a patch at the end of November and then release no other major patches for 6+ months and people just get bored), then call me silly, but surely Blizzard should make an attempt to resolve that issue?

We shouldn't have servers made up of 95% of one faction; nor should we have so many servers that lead to populations being stretched.

Yes but this is about PVP system, about getting ranks. We have groups to create RBGs but they are other people who dont.
I dont want this only for people who cannot go RBGs but for reason, that there could be new way of earning that titles. It is the same thing when you can earn conquest point either from arenas or daily BG wins or RBGs. It is the personal option of every one person what he wants to choose and play.

I agree with this. Running RBG is a very big life commitment. You must be online at certain times and have to organise your real life around wow. This is just not practical for most peoples lives to revolve around a game and the many reasons I preference pvp to pve. Brining back the old rank systems running along side the current other pvp systems would give players yet another option for earning pvp ranks.

Yes it could perfectly run with the current "Earning titles system"

Why Bliizard "ignore" theior customers? There are mega bunch of threads what we dont like, what is wrong, and what would we like to add to game. It looks like blizzard does not care, everything make by themselfes, and that is one of reasons they are loosing subscribers. They dont listen.

I know now added to game Sumbit Suggestion. But I bet it ends in some "recycle bin" and nobody will read it.

Blizzard try to liston to you players that are holding this game, and maybe it will go much much better. Thanks.

Wouldn't everyone end up with GM and HWL, then? There are already titles that you can get that do not require anything other than time investment at your own pace ("of the Alliance", "Bloodthirsty", "Battlemaster").

I got up to Marshal on my priest in vanilla, and yes, it was a "no life" pre-made grinding thing only (and I didn't have the time and stamina to go for FM or GM), but it still required dedication. Dedication of the unhealthy kind, but still. :) I wasn't thrilled when they brought back the titles for RBGs, but at least you still have to "work" for them. Your suggestion seems to be to hand them out to pretty much everyone, unless I misunderstand?

I know now added to game Sumbit Suggestion. But I bet it ends in some "recycle bin" and nobody will read it.

And that is how I feel, too. I understand Blizzard has more serious problems than this but players need a feedback and in a such company as Blizzard is should be plenty for people in charge to respond people to their suggestions or forum. Moreover in more serious troubles.

Dedication of the unhealthy kind, but still.

Do you want to say that it is unfair to give people titles in the way we suggest? No, we say that people would work for them, too, but in the way in which it is technically possible.
And please notice that in the past it required an unhealthy dedication even to get to lvl 60, but WoW is changing...

20/06/2012 22:22Posted by Zbohom

Do you want to say that it is unfair to give people titles in the way we suggest? No, we say that people would work for them, too, but in the way in which it is technically possible.

It is already possible: The titles are unfortunately available through the RBG system. There is no chance that Blizzard will make them available to players who prefer a casual playstyle, just like you cannot casually obtain Arena Master or a Gladiator title.

I would like to be able to get titles that are no longer obtainable at all, like Scarab Lord.