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23/06/2012 15:47Posted by Tamryn

How come I always top the healing in Rated Battleground? I usually do twice the other healers healing done. In arena... yes we're kinda squishy compared to the other healers but the fact is that we got awesome CC and if your partner(s) know(s) when to peel you, you'll be able to compete in arena for sure, with success.

Obviously never met a melee cleave.

Do yourself and everyone else a favour and do not comment on things you have no knowledge of.

Ofc... I've met many melee cleaves... But if you have frost mage + rogue as partners you got some epic peeling. Doesn't work everytime but it works very well tbh. Btw... Obviously you have never met a Resto druid who knows how to play good.

There is a Resto druid in 2v2 and he is on Top 2 on the Battlegroup.

Yes - there are always exceptionally skilled players - just because 1 person can play a class at competetive levels (his partner is obviously equally skilled which compounds his success.) does not make that spec valid. Balance also features very minimlly in the 2s bracket but has some high ranked moonkins - does not mean moonkin is a particularly viable spec. in arena.

Dont get me wrong Im not hating! I love playing Rdruid, the problem is that currently in PVP we are UP compared to other healing classes. We do add a tonne of mobility and CC but it comes at a survival cost as many classes can counter us.

I totally agree with you, but I still think Resto druids are very underestimated.

"no class can really counter it"
Feral druids... they get instant "Hibernate" on the travel form = 8 seconds CC, that's a counter.

Get a shaman to purge PS...

23/06/2012 14:02Posted by Rhavo

the fact we can avoid every mana burn, poly or hex seems pretty OP.

Have you ever heard of Deep Freeze? Jk you've never broken 1500.

a resto druid calling melee fine in 3v3 tells me otherwise, but sure.

first post was refering to BGs. in 3s melee cleaves are hard yes, but aslong as your team mates understand this and PEEL. its not as bad as people make out.

It's called teamplay. What does it mean?
It's means that lack of your own saves is compensated by your team-mates. Profit.
You have to play as team, not just rofl-stomp arenas like lsd2 or 3dd

I couldn't have said it better myself.

"no class can really counter it"
Feral druids... they get instant "Hibernate" on the travel form = 8 seconds CC, that's a counter.

Get a shaman to purge PS...

I just told a counter and you told a counter for the counter, that has nothing to do with this.

In 2s druids are fine. However i do not really understand how you can say that druids are just as good as others in 3v3. I get that they can work and it's very well possible to get glad as a resto druid, but you're forced into comps with shadow priests and ret paladins.

I don't think it is fine if you compare it to the rest.

Yes it can work, but if you have some sort of bad luck there's no real way of dealing with it like another healer could.

In 2s druids are fine. However i do not really understand how you can say that druids are just as good as others in 3v3. I get that they can work and it's very well possible to get glad as a resto druid, but you're forced into comps with shadow priests and ret paladins.

I don't think it is fine if you compare it to the rest.

Yes it can work, but if you have some sort of bad luck there's no real way of dealing with it like another healer could.

I am not sayin' Resto druid are just as good as the other healers in 3v3.
I'm sayin' Resto druids are fine, they are a bit underpowered yes, but they got good stuff that other healers don't have.

Let me ask you one question, you're playing vs ret/dk/disc and the ret and dk hardswap to you.
How do you handle it?

warstomp, clone. bear bash the other 1. get back to my pillar.

How do you deal with the hardswap if your not a tauren and they use things like ams, trinketing clones, bubble, freedom, dispels from priest etc to stay on you with ToL on cooldown? thats where the resto druid is lacking, decent burst healing outside of a major cd. Bringing racials up in this discusion is just silly.

26/06/2012 10:22Posted by Valenteria

How do you deal with the hardswap if your not a tauren and they use things like ams, trinketing clones, bubble, freedom, dispels from priest etc to stay on you with ToL on cooldown?

This quote doesn't make any sense.
May I ask:

How do you deal with the hardswap if your not a tauren and they use things like ams, trinketing clones, bubble, freedom, dispels from priest etc to stay on you with Link on cooldown?

And in has nothing to do with thing, that tauren's and elf's racials are stronger, than others. Coz they r useless in PvE.

BTW bubbled ret deal no damage.

How do you deal with the hardswap if your not a tauren and they use things like ams, trinketing clones, bubble, freedom, dispels from priest etc to stay on you with ToL on cooldown?

This quote doesn't make any sense.

Was just asking how he deals with the hardswap without ToL and being a tauren for warstomp, what don't make sense? A shaman can take more of a beating in the first place then a resto druid.

26/06/2012 17:39Posted by Авахан

BTW bubbled ret deal no damage.

You do know he can use it to break out of cc and dispel it of himself a second later to keep pummel the druid? a melee cleave is either win fast or lose, they do everything they can to stay onto you.

Okey, gonna write it down again. Just more clearly:

You
Are
Not
Alone

And we also have Frenzd regen

26/06/2012 18:05Posted by Valenteria

This quote doesn't make any sense.

Was just asking how he deals with the hardswap without ToL and being a tauren for warstomp, what don't make sense? A shaman can take more of a beating in the first place then a resto druid.

26/06/2012 17:39Posted by Авахан

BTW bubbled ret deal no damage.

You do know he can use it to break out of cc and dispel it of himself a second later to keep pummel the druid? a melee cleave is either win fast or lose, they do everything they can to stay onto you.

you must have bad team mates. because every time you post you give the impression you dont get peels xD

19/06/2012 14:46Posted by Umemorian

100k Greater Healing Waves

I can make 149k with greater healing wave, on my shaman. :)
Its sick really, can heal up a dps player with 1 cast...

1600 players calling rdruids fine ... From the looks of it tho we are gonna be OP again in MoP!

02/07/2012 20:56Posted by Healdudu

1600 players calling rdruids fine ... From the looks of it tho we are gonna be OP again in MoP!

-Minions on your knees and bow for this mighty Elit(1337) rated Archdruid!

Yes - there are always exceptionally skilled players - just because 1 person can play a class at competetive levels (his partner is obviously equally skilled which compounds his success.) does not make that spec valid. Balance also features very minimlly in the 2s bracket but has some high ranked moonkins - does not mean moonkin is a particularly viable spec. in arena.

Dont get me wrong Im not hating! I love playing Rdruid, the problem is that currently in PVP we are UP compared to other healing classes. We do add a tonne of mobility and CC but it comes at a survival cost as many classes can counter us.

I totally agree with you, but I still think Resto druids are very underestimated.

You're sort of making it sound like people are calling Resto Druids unviable when in actual fact, they're as viable as the rest of the healers, just not as optimal.

Every comp that works with a resto druid also works with a resto shaman and you can probably guess what most people will take.

Resto's are viable in 2's and 5's (with another healer). Not so viable in 3's.
Dont play much RBG's so wouldn't know but I can imagine a druid topping the healing often.
For 2's just play with a good peeler and you'll do just as good as a Disc (imma get flamed).
For 3's, go Boomkin + Cunning, Resto just doesn't make it. They can do decent but just aren't as good as Pally's/Shammy's/Priests.
For 5's Resto is actually quite fun to play :)

03/07/2012 09:40Posted by Denatrie

Not so viable in 3's

Yet there is a rank 1 Resto Druid on US? Ok, seems like you just can't break 1500 /:

EDIT: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/magtheridon/Hopelessness/advanced

03/07/2012 12:10Posted by Rhavo

Yet there is a rank 1 Resto Druid on US?

Take a look at his win rating, obvious win trader.

03/07/2012 12:10Posted by Rhavo

Yet there is a rank 1 Resto Druid on US? Ok, seems like you just can't break 1500 /:

^ is correct. Other than that there are some good resto druids out there with "crazy" skills and good teammates. Yes they make high rating in 3's. But those are very, very few and probably countable on 1 hand...
One rank 1 Resto doesn't mean resto is a viable spec. Hence there's arms warriors at high rating at well but they aren't viable...

And nope, I can't break 1500. I rolled a fire mage to do that :)

03/07/2012 12:14Posted by Ayun

Take a look at his win rating, obvious win trader.

Are you crazy? Shouri is literally the best Druid ever - In fact, he has been a gladiator from seasons 2-5 and rank 1 from 6-now.

03/07/2012 12:48Posted by Denatrie

I can't break 1500. I rolled a fire mage

Don't post here then.