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This is not WoW.
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Edited by Anexxi on 03/07/12 11:50 (BST)
You had sitting and queuing in wrath, the scenery was arguably better, the raids were more epic (apart from ToC which was just fail), and pvp was more fun and balanced even.
WotLK > Cata in every way. Oh and the lfr part, I would rather experience my first raid with other players explaining to me, rather than easy fights with peoeple that rarely even talk. |
Well when you don't actually read what other people write and you insiste in the same stupid arguments (stupid arguments, as in not being able to see that he still likes the game), I would say it's normal. |
er, it wasn't hate against DKs Just simply pointing out the irony of a guy saying how good vanilla/TBC was then posts on a character that was only available from WotLK See what were saying now |
You had sitting and queuing in wrath, the scenery was arguably better, the raid were more epic (apart from ToC which was just fail), and pvp was more fun and balanced even. Well, it's funny because the arguments of Monsieur Pallander, are actually a bit of a fail. Mostly because what he states are things that happened before as well... He asked you:
And not Why is Cata better than Vanilla... |
Well, (s)he flamed at me, yet I gave a calm response. That's what I consider normal. But now I feel special, because I can keep my cool where the rest of you seem unable to :) |
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Edited by Gavreel on 03/07/12 11:56 (BST)
Lol, real special. :) But, keep the dancing with the words, and don't actually reply to what people say to you, that really makes you truly special. |
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Acctualy I'm not Rockandrolla :P but I was starting to wonder why was he talking like that even though most of those things were there in wrath. |
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Well of course, I had to at least clarify to Zazkya the game it was, otherwise the poor Gnome might keep pondering it....for all eternity :|
To the rescue! Or something... :P There isn't much to discuss. Some people liked Vanilla the most. Some people liked TBC the most. Some people liked WotLK the most. Some people like Cata the most. And some people think they will like MoP the most. Attempting to discern who is objectively right in such a subjective discussion is impossible, and pointless. The only sort of conclusion I think you can draw in regards to how WoW has evolved over the years, is that it has grown bigger with each expansion, and thus the fullest WoW experience is always the current WoW experience. I mean, each expansion adds something new to the game which then becomes a core thing (battlegrounds in Vanilla, flying mounts in TBC, Dungeon Finder in WotLK, Rated Battlegrounds in Cata, and so on). Thus, objectively speaking, the latest WoW expansion is always the best, because it offers the most in terms of sheer WoW. But of course that doesn't account for subjective values where players like something that was rather individual and confined to a certain time (community feeling in Vanilla, raid progression in TBC, Wintergrasp PvP in WotLK, Raid Finder in Cata, and so on). But as said, objectively speaking, the "best" WoW is always the current WoW (regardless of when that is), because it offers the fullest and biggest experience. |
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Edited by Gavreel on 03/07/12 12:03 (BST)
Well because everyone here as notice two things about Monsieur Pallander: 1) He is not able to read. 2) He is not able to give a proper reply to plain simple question and starts talking about things that don't even make sense. |
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@Jito
I agree with most of what you say. Although I don't agree with this:
This assumes that you could keep what was unique in each previous expansions in actual state of the game... Which of course you don't (I am talking now in my perspective, so no need for the usual BS): 1 - Sense of community 2 - Raid progression. |
There isn't much to discuss Indeed. Everytime there is a 'WoW sux I quit' thread do we really need to have a lengthy discussion about whether the OP is right or not. Just let them get on with it instead of insisting that each and every single version of this same topic dishes out the exact same mind numbingly pointless argument of 'I like this more than this and my opinion counts more than yours because i said so'. On topic: Goodbye OP. |
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What that you keep whining about a old and buggy game? Sure you knew more ppl personally in the old game but why do you want that? I mean theres like hundreds/thousands ppl on a realm that I for sure dont wanna be greet at by all when i come online xD But seriously dude if you are fed up with the game then just quit and dont make a thread everybody does that but it wont help they wont change the game because you say" IM GONNA QUIT" |
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Edited by Pallander on 03/07/12 12:10 (BST)
Well, that's a fair point. But I do say that most of my points have progressed WOTLK->Cata. The change in time invested /rewards gained ratio most importantly. Most of the crying on the forum is about how Vanilla was so great and precious that giving responses to all these similar threads goes too easily into a "compared to Vanilla" mode for me. And I'm from not from France, so I'm no Monsieur. Call me Herra, if you must :P |
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Why would it be assumed by that counter arguement? Isnt that what YOU would want? Seriously dont generalize your opinion, Jito IS right,. the "best"wow is current doesnt matter what happened to the old, you can say that the old was better but it wasnt was 1000 more time buggy and sure it was new but that was because the GAME WAS NEW... |
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Edited by Anexxi on 03/07/12 12:10 (BST)
And that is good, why? You get maximum rewards with minimal efforts in cataclysm. |
Not minimal. Reasonable. Minimal would be decked in best possible gear with all the achievements done at max level straight after creating a character. You still do have to play the game and spend time to progress. These days you just don't have to do it as much as you used to. |
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Get real.
A perfect example would be rogue legendaries, which are practicaly wellfare. |
Get real. Well, since there seemed to be some confusion, I'll state this here explicitly: You have the right to your opinions. But I still do think your opinion is one of gross exaggeration. |
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Get real. Welfare vs Lottery Neither have any real effort attached. Val'anir was welfare in that regard, Shadowmourne was welfare, Dragonwrath was welfare. The only legendary worth its salt in the game is Atiesh. |
