Topic Rate the tank above you...
Calun
Mazrigos
Calun
85 Human Death Knight
4210
As the previous thread had made it`s limit, I`m gonna continue here. Starting with the latest poster in the previous thread xD

@Nattalva...
From what I can see, you are doing well. Just wondering whyn you don`t equip the crafted legs, as they are best in slot. You would still keep the 4p bonus. And it looks like you have the same luck as me with the ring drops from DS. Never seen either of them :(
Your dodge and parry are a bit off, so I would suggest you reforge away from parry and into either mastery or dodge.
Anyway...you have made a lot more progress then me, so I guess you know what you are doing anyway :) Keep it up.
Anyway, here is your rating: 9/10 :)

As for whoever is gonna rate me, the gemming is a bit off. I won`t replace them until I get BiS gear. I know I should probably use +50 gems already, but it`s just a gold sink for me, and I actually prefer to use my gold on BiS gems and enchants and such.
Onewarrior
Terenas
Onewarrior
85 Human Paladin
2815
looking very good to me dont know that much about DK sorry.
Buttergoat
Skullcrusher
Buttergoat
85 Tauren Druid
4330
<Onewarrior>
Overall is good, but you lack reforging on all items, if armory has not bugged ofc.. And you are far from even on parry/dodge, witch is a very very bad thing with your gear (believe you are currently clearing DS hc content) and you are still not ctc capped, witch I know is a !@#$% to get..
And what happend to hit rating? you got close to 0%, and that is far from good mate:P
I also believe there is a better meta gem for you, but since you are full epic gemmed I wont go near you on that point:)
Summary: reforge your gear so u get more hit.. and by far the most important thing for you, is evening out your dodge/parry.. they need to be max 1% away from eachother..

Pretty decent paladin, weird naming urself a warrior, but hey.. we all get confused sometimes:)

Hugs - Buttergoat.
Kredo
Burning Steppes
Kredo
85 Blood Elf Death Knight
8025
Dont know much about druids but,
reforged gear into agi,
1 unenchanted slot,
6/8N DS progress
seems to be more of a dps with all that agi and 30% crit.
no parry, mainly uses dodge,
wearing pvp helm.
Sraag
Dragonblight
Sraag
85 Night Elf Druid
5090
Edited by Sraag on 13/07/12 10:53 (BST)
Kredo.

Dont use Gurth for tanking, it has no secondary stats.
Gemming is not the best, go for lot of mastery, not a little of everything.
Lack of reforging, and bad reforging. Parry and dodge ratio is way off.
Talents, dont know too much about it, but should get epidemic talent.

This is a "rate the tank" and my rate of you is.. hmm.... 5/10. Its only half good.
Ristidin
Scarshield Legion
Ristidin
90 Tauren Death Knight
7350
Edited by Ristidin on 15/07/12 14:54 (BST)
Sraag

Gear seems fine. Reforging also (don't know to much about druids tho) Spec looks oké also.
I wouldn't waste epic gems on normal gear but thats just your choice.

8/10 because your alliance

Before someone is going to rant about that I gem stam also. That's because I have enough mastery.
Jirak
Darkmoon Faire
Jirak
85 Human Death Knight
6140
10/10, gemming and stats seem very good. Not much to say about it, really.
Malarian
Chamber of Aspects
Malarian
85 Goblin Warrior
7330
Prolly shouldnt rate a DK tank myshelf since i dont know alot of how they work, but id guess 7/10.

Taught your avoidance stats where a bit low but i might be off if i am, sorry :)
You need to lvl your JC tough and get some of thoose gems in there aswell.
Nattälva
Hellscream
Nattälva
90 Night Elf Death Knight
7560
You are 2.4% over ctc cap with your dodge trinket stacked. Also, your dodge is going to be high compared to your parry when it is stacked. More stam gems! Looks good otherwise. 9/10

15/07/2012 22:14Posted by Malarian
Taught your avoidance stats where a bit low but i might be off if i am, sorry :)


I would be more worried about the lack of Glyph of Blood Tap ... What tank consciously hurts himself?
Namari
The Sha'tar
Namari
90 Night Elf Druid
10425
Nattalva:

I don't have enough experience in current state of dk tanking to comment about the talents, but gear at least looks good to me with more or less same gems, reforges, and enchants that I would probably use myself. Thumbs up.
Malarian
Chamber of Aspects
Malarian
85 Goblin Warrior
7330
I have recently been told that stacking agi gems really isnt that good for bear tanks and that stam is much more usefull, as it dosent add as much survivability that stam does.
Jamillia
Shattered Hand
Jamillia
90 Blood Elf Paladin
14230
Edited by Jamillia on 16/07/12 12:56 (BST)
16/07/2012 06:18Posted by Malarian
I have recently been told that stacking agi gems really isnt that good for bear tanks and that stam is much more usefull, as it dosent add as much survivability that stam does.


Not bad at all, too bad about your trinket XD

You are a good bit over your CTC point, so, you should reforge your parry/dodge to be about the same (don't forget to count 10 stacks of your trinket) and get your CTC to 102.4 then remove some gems and stack stamina.

Edit: Just saw your meta, 6/10, you should take the + block.
Ristidin
Scarshield Legion
Ristidin
90 Tauren Death Knight
7350
You are 2.4% over ctc cap with your dodge trinket stacked. Also, your dodge is going to be high compared to your parry when it is stacked. More stam gems! Looks good otherwise. 9/10

Taught your avoidance stats where a bit low but i might be off if i am, sorry :)


I would be more worried about the lack of Glyph of Blood Tap ... What tank consciously hurts himself?


I'm wondering.. your parry is way to high and yet you use a parry enchant on your weapon?
You are reforging expertise away while the softcap is also needed?

You're over 30 mastery so it would be better now to just gem stamina.
Jamillia
Shattered Hand
Jamillia
90 Blood Elf Paladin
14230
You are 2.4% over ctc cap with your dodge trinket stacked. Also, your dodge is going to be high compared to your parry when it is stacked. More stam gems! Looks good otherwise. 9/10



I would be more worried about the lack of Glyph of Blood Tap ... What tank consciously hurts himself?


I'm wondering.. your parry is way to high and yet you use a parry enchant on your weapon?
You are reforging expertise away while the softcap is also needed?

You're over 30 mastery so it would be better now to just gem stamina.


Why you no rate me? This makes me sad :<
Nattälva
Hellscream
Nattälva
90 Night Elf Death Knight
7560
I'm wondering.. your parry is way to high and yet you use a parry enchant on your weapon? You are reforging expertise away while the softcap is also needed?


Swordshattering adds a flat 4% parry and does not contribute to diminishing returns. Hence, the use of it is equivalent to 4% pure avoidance and does not affect the parry-dodge balance - which I have done what I can for with reforges. That being said, I do switch runes when I feel the need to have more stamina.

Expertise is nothing that I would really aim for as a blood dk. At least not at the expense of survival stats. DK (as well as all other) tank threat is silly at the moment. One might consider to put in extra expertise at the expense of survival if dps is an issue. But claiming that the soft cap is needed is going a bit to far. (The healing portion - and thus also the absorb shield - of Death Strike is activated whether you hit or not.)

You are also specced into Lichborne without glyph of Death Coil for the extra healing and instead you have glyphed Death Strike for extra dps. Workable I guess, but it is a choice which affects survivability negatively.

Why you no rate me? This makes me sad :<


Buffed you are about 0.4% above ctc cap. You can drop like 30 mastery so exchanging a pure mastery gem for a hybrid mastery/stam should put you right on top of things. Soulshifter Vortex is a pretty awful trinket for paladins as it is just giving you stamina. I would suggest going with the VP trinket instead. This will add quite a lot of mastery - giving you an opportunity to gem stamina instead and having a trinket with an actually useful active ability (as dodging is better than just blocking). 8.5/10 overall.
Jamillia
Shattered Hand
Jamillia
90 Blood Elf Paladin
14230
Hmm, point taken! Thanks! I will check out what I can do :)
Wust
Stormscale
Wust
85 Tauren Druid
6700
rate me plz :)
Nattälva
Hellscream
Nattälva
90 Night Elf Death Knight
7560
Ferocious Bite and King of the Jungle are dps talents. Consider dropping them for Perseverence. Gear is mainly fine but consider different reforge on relic and get the pvp necklace instead of the one you are using (yes, the pvp one is better due to more agi and stamina - and having mastery - haste is as good as useless). Exchange some valor for conquest if you (like me) dont like pvping - although you have 500 times more HKs than I do so I suspect it may not be a problem. 9/10 overall.
Jamillia
Shattered Hand
Jamillia
90 Blood Elf Paladin
14230
16/07/2012 15:23Posted by Nattälva
Buffed you are about 0.4% above ctc cap. You can drop like 30 mastery so exchanging a pure mastery gem for a hybrid mastery/stam should put you right on top of things. Soulshifter Vortex is a pretty awful trinket for paladins as it is just giving you stamina. I would suggest going with the VP trinket instead. This will add quite a lot of mastery - giving you an opportunity to gem stamina instead and having a trinket with an actually useful active ability (as dodging is better than just blocking). 8.5/10 overall.


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