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Just a little heads up to all you dps out there.
If you are not getting any heals...there can be a reason why....the healer is concentrating keeping the tank alive who is tanking MASSIVE damage from many MANY mobs then he/she think can take.
I have tried all class roles and know the limets to what my warrior tank can. Sometimes I dont get enough heals on my dps classes and there use any healing/bandages I have at hand.

So stop whining people that attitude well not serve you any good. Be nice and you will be treated nicely. Its how the world is even in cyperspace.

Thank you for clicking in on this thread, have all a nice day.
Trara ;)

If there's so much damage incoming that the healer can't keep both the tank and the dps alive, you're screwed anyways. Without dps, chances are you'll wipe, and without a tank the dps won't live long.

The point of a healer is to keep the entire group alive, not just the tank. In my opinion, the tank should only be the focus of the healer when it won't kill the dps.

Then again, I suck at this game.

The DPS have the luxury of being able to move away from damage, however.

The whole idea with the tank is that he's supposed to be the focus of enemy attention and soak up damage like a sponge, when the DPS get hit one of four things have occurred:

1. The tank has lost aggro on the boss or parts/the whole group of mobs. This may be because the tank has fnorked the blerm and not generated enough threat, or it may be because the DPS have done too much damage. In either case the tank has to stay alive while he tries to get the situation back under control.

2. The DPS is standing in the fire. In these situations I generally prefer healing the tank, I can't heal brain damage after all.

3. INCOMING ADDS! The DPS should let the tank handle these before attacking (if necessary, which it almost always is) and the tank once again needs healing since he's taking a lot of damage.

4. The boss throws random DOTs, damaging attacks or raid wide AOE damage. In this case everyone need fast dispels/healing, preferably AOE if the damage is severe enough. This drains a lot of mana and if I'm assigned to a tank I only do this to save people from actually dying. Unless the tank for whatever reason is not taking much damage.

I agree totally.

1) If you are taking damage from a load of adds it's the tanks fault so don't rage the healer.

2) Paladins, shamans, priests, warlocks and deathknights all have forms of self healing and draenei have a 25% heal!

3) Hunters have a pet to attract aggro (well should at all times) and a move to divert aggro as well including their feign death.

4) If you don't have a self healing spell you should make the decision to learn first aid.

5) rogues can just vanish away

6) Hunters can disengage and goblins can rocket jump.

7) If you don't like being hit run away from the attacking monster.

8) Some adds are uncontrollable and aren't affected by aggro.

9) If the tank sucks or the healer is being attacked by adds they have themselves to think about.

10) there can be aoe spells hitting you AND the tank so the healer has a hard time.

11) Sometimes the healer runs ot of mana and the tank doesn't give them a mana break!!!

12) Healing potions, buy em or make em.

So stop being nasty to healers dps, it's pretty easy to stay alive even with an elite up your backside! Unless the healer is afk, they're not bad. The healer has rushed to the loo in the past and I've been able ot keep the tank up even as a hunter with some strong bandages and healing engineering injectors!

Tl;dr version: casuals are fun.

Pretty much every class has some kind of self heal these days, people just aren't using them for most parts, for same reason why most people don't interrupt or dispel, because they think its not their problem and/or lowers their dps.

We love you when you heal us and understand when you dont. ;D

Dont think Ive ever seen people yelling at the healer though, except for when they went afk. Mostly the other way around. Healers yelling "More dps please" at poor Rogues or whoever.

Dont get me wrong though, nothing but respect for healers. Unless they are Gnomes. Or Alliance....;)

I had people complain because they got killed by boss mechanics which was a 1 shot. People can be retards. Especially those who tunnel vision trying to get thier DPS to max whilst standing in the fire with a dot on them or something.

And yes, on my resto shammy, i often call out for more dps when things are going very slowly and start to dps myself for the fun of it.

But I wont be calling out for heals, only if theres raidwide damage with 5 healers in the group which are purposely not healing those who get really low, can be frustrating!

imo, if you dont understand how a healer feels. Play one.

We love you when you heal us and understand when you dont. ;D

Dont think Ive ever seen people yelling at the healer though, except for when they went afk. Mostly the other way around. Healers yelling "More dps please" at poor Rogues or whoever.

Dont get me wrong though, nothing but respect for healers. Unless they are Gnomes. Or Alliance....;)

Gnomes are awesome. /bonk

17/07/2012 09:57Posted by Gorthrak

Gnomes are awesome. /bonk

I like you.

17/07/2012 09:34Posted by Zakhari

and start to dps myself for the fun of it.

So you complain that people are taking damage while you are dps-ing as healer.

I want to see this massive damage in 5mans.

ive seen dps yell at the tank, healer and other dps... ive been lucky that whichever role ive been in its not me being at fault.

but to be blunt its not the roles fault that dps take damage, its the player. not ALL tanks are bad, neither are ALL healers or ALL dps...

the cold hard simple truth is anyone who has a reason to complain is the person who's done wrong or is taking the brunt of whats gone wrong...

think before you rage :)

Wow didnt expect to get any replies to this thread that was constructive. I more expected those damm trolls lurking in the corners of the forum.
Please keep thread alive

Trara

If a dps needs to selfheal in a dungeon cause healer isn't, something really fishy is up, nothing else. Either tank is doing something stupid, or dps is standing in too much stuff, or healer is just not good, or anything else or combination thereof. Under reasonable circumstances there is no point ever that it should be "ok/normal" for a healer to ignore healing dps in a dungeon with a chance of them dieing from that.

How to voice your opinion is something else however. Just screaming at healer isn't going to solve anything indeed, since it can very easily be someone else's fault completely (and actually is more often than not).

If only the dps started to perhaps.... interrupt alittle, stun if possible, or think beyond the faceroll "OMG NEED TO TOP RECOUNT" attitude, then HCs would go so much smoother.

HCs are easy, but not for fresh dinged ppl with blues and greens.

And I think it makes you a better player, there is more to a dps class then just trying to "win the dmg competition" that is going in in somebodys head while in a dungeon.

I usually never say anything unless someone !@#$s up bad, like the other night @ Archbishop Benedictus in Hour of Twilight. Priest healer first let me die from the dispellable debuff, then another dps, then himself and the last dps after the boss was dead.

I dont expect heals when I do stupid %^-*, but if the healer cant keep his !@#$ together for unavoidable fightmechanics I get annoyed.

Well i heal all but sometimes i might wait with the dps since they took a hit or two but not taking dmg currently, primary target is the tank since without him or her or it stuff is likely to go bad.

You all know Murphy's Law dont you?...its how it can happen sometimes.

Agree 100% with OP.

I usually do dungeons etc with a guild healer and tank and the amount of dps who complain about not getting heals and yet insist on standing in boss/mobs aoe or they fail to target the tanks target and so pull mobs of the tank and get themselves killed.

They then complain about a bad healer when they died due to their own stupidity. I have died a few times in a dungeon, usually peeling mobs of the healer. As far as I'm concerned I am the lowest heal priority, keeping the tank and healer alive is far more important than myself.

Besides as DPS, we shouldn't be getting that much damage (sometimes its inevitable due to the boss mechanics, in which case the healer as to be quick on their feet e.g. Archbishop Bendictus). I don't mind dieing if it means protecting the healer.

Besides as a MM hunter i have limited self heal that at least in dungeons is good enough for most trash and a few bosses.

/bump for justice.