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EMFH is only good if you do PvE on most classes, and borderline retarded on mages. Every human mage running with the mastery procc trinket and the onuse ensures hilarity at its finest.
I wont even begin to imagine the disgusting damage i could do on someone in deepfreeze on the opener with my Heroic Insignia and and either the 1200 mastery trinket or an on use PvP trinket. |
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I'd much perfer to change my DK to Draenei but. Racials =/
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I am going to perform a heinous crime right now and put the thread back on track :p
The main reason that players choose the human racial at the moment is to not take a medallion and get a PvE trinket instead. If you take a PvE trinket into a PvP environment in Mists though, you are sacrificing a lot. Not only to mention the base stats being added to medallions, but with PvP power being on them as well, which is an amazing stat, our intent is that PvP trinkets will be balanced out against their PvE counterparts. |
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07/08/2012
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Overpowering races just like overpowering classes is a cunning marketing ploy, it is to make lots of money through race changes and faction changes.
In MOP other races will become stronger again and everyone will be paying money to change back. |
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Edited by Shase on 07/08/12 14:43 (BST)
I am going to perform a heinous crime right now and put the thread back on track :p The issue of the human racial I should think will be fixed Nakatoir and I agree with you on that, however a whole new and more wide spread issue will emerge, and that's the issue of PvE weapons, as PvP ones do no currently have PvP power on them. So currently as its looking, one issue is fixed, and another is made even more widespread. :/ |
I am going to perform a heinous crime right now and put the thread back on track :p But what about the double PvP trinkets like on use and equip, so you still get a benefit that is disproportional to a lot of other racials. What about having double on use give primary stat. Or is there only going to be 1 supplmentary PvP trinket to go with the one that removes control effects? What about the PvE trinkets that no matter what the PvP stat you lose is, you're going to take it anyway because it's just THAT good. Vial of Shadows, Cunning, Deathbringers Will, Grim Toll, Darkmoon Card: Death, the two wotlk wizard trinkets. These trinkets not only offer the best PRIMARY stats most of the time on proc, they also give raw damage proc's. |
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I am going to perform a heinous crime right now and put the thread back on track :p Many people chose Human just for the double dps PvP trinket (like me), so your argument is invalid. 1452 str for 20 sec every 45 sec is a HUGE boost in damage for my class and no other race can provide that. My burst is going to be so much better with the pvp badge that everyone has plus the procced pvp insignia. I won't race change until you nerf it, that's how OP Every Man for Himself is. |
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Edited by Zënga on 07/08/12 14:52 (BST)
I am going to perform a heinous crime right now and put the thread back on track :p If a pvp trinket can offer (on use) 8-10% of your main stat, than the ability to have double pvp trinkets is still OP if you don't have to equip an escape trinket. Even for healers (battlemaster trinket + pvp on use). It's absolutely wrong that the racial doesn't get adjusted, and all the players know it. And the problem only grows as gear becomes more powerful throughout an expansion and healthpools don't scale as much. If anything, the new pvp power will make the racial even better in MoP than it is on live, since humans will now get the pvp power and resilience they miss out on on live. It ruined a whole pvp season, don't let it ruin the next one. |
I am going to perform a heinous crime right now and put the thread back on track :p The PvP trinkets need to be A LOT better then the PvE once which I highly doubt, Wrath of the Lich king trinkets like  Dislodged Foreign Object,  Deathbringer's Will,  Grim Toll or even  Mjolnir Runestone(could keep linking overpowered PvE trinkets all day but you get the point) would be used regardless off Resiliance loss because they gave the best stat possible for classes.Unless PvP power is byfar the best stat you can possibly get and you want to gem for it PvE trinkets / weapons will still be the best items you can use in PvP. Another question, why is there no PvP power on the weapons? How you're describing PvP power right now it seems like it's going to be so good that you want to get as much off it as possible but and at the same time you don't put any on the Weapons? Trying to get PvE items out of PvP but doesn't put any PvP power on the weapons, makes perfect sense rite. |
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just make PvE weapons and trinkets unusable in arena
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Edited by Archaos on 07/08/12 15:11 (BST)
The Human racial in PVP effectively boils down to giving you an extra trinket slot -- that may be powerful but it's incredibly BORING. It is not even remotely interesting and not what racial abilities are supposed to be about.
It's also worthless in PVE. Why can't we have something interesting instead? |
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Essence of Terror
Heroic Binds when picked up Unique-Equipped: Essence of Terror (1) Trinket +1300 Intellect Requires Level 90 Item Level 509 Equip: Each time your harmful spells hit, you have a chance to gain 5079 haste for 20 sec. VS Malevolent Gladiator's Badge of Dominance Season 12 Binds when picked up Trinket +1021 Intellect Requires Level 90 Item Level 483 Equip: Increases your resilience rating by 322 (1.04% @ L90). Use: Increases spell power by 4236 for 20 sec. (2 Min Cooldown) Set up as human caster? |
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Problem is that PvE trinkets will most likely still be a little better, and Blizzard is fine with that. They want you to do PvE.
Even if PvP trinkets were in fact better for PvP, forcing everyone to have a PvP trinket, it would make EMFH useless. The Racial needs to be completely removed and humans given something else. |
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looks>racials all day every day
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