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Shaman tanks? are you nuts?
Shamanstic rage reduced damage in wotlk aswell so please get your facts right. |
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See, this is why I would never spec into Enhance, lol. People arguing about what they want, blizz mixing and messing up the spec so much. Give me a straight spec with a clear, defined role any day. I'm sticking to my ele. :)
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Edited by Raiju on 10/07/12 18:09 (BST)
Here you go: Enhance is a dual wielding DPS that mixes melee and elemental attacks. Defined, clear, straight. Just because people want the spec to be other/older things doesn't mean it is or is going to be. Enhance has been the above since TBC released without failure, the only issue is the constant inclusion of abilities that seem tanky (threat increase?) |
Exactly. This is what I mean. Also arguments and theories like this put me off ever rolling enhance spec. Then again, I enjoy casters the most so obviously that'd play a roll too. You'll know if bliz plan on making Shaman tanks if they give them the ability to wear plate. Hell, if they start making Shaman tanks, why not hunters...or priests? When I play a dungeon everyone wants to play at tank and it seems everyone wants their class to tank too. I hope no one takes offence at this, but just learn to enjoy what you have. If you don't, the class isn't for you. Simple as. |
Rockbiter weapon used to be an imbue that simply increased the weapons DPS by a solid amount. Not for tanking. Aside from the fact that shamanistic rage always worked as a damage reduction ability, this post is the truth. Rockbiter had nothing to do with threat from the beginning. Lightning shield has never given any significant threat, toughness has stayed the same. When you people claim that Enhance has a few "tanking abilities" and therefore "must have been meant to be tanks in the future", I'd very much like to hear who told you that. Infact, when my guild in vanilla first killed the twin emperors we used a warlock to tank the caster (Vek'lor I think it was?), so warlocks should feel entitled to a tank spec aswell? Just get over it. I'd like to rephrase this:
to: "If you don't like the playstyle of your class, then switch to another." Enhancement is Enhancement, I love Enhancement. I want the issues that ruin Enhancement's intended playstyle to be taken care of, I don't want new issues, and I sure as hell don't want devs to put their efforts on something completely different if they are going to look into my class. |
In vanilla shaman was plan to be tanks, in the beta they where tank able class and they dont need plate to be tanks, mail is good as it is, like druids using leather and a bear form, shaman could use a stone elemental form for tanking. Besides some people love there shaman (I do) but I also love tanking and the reason to why I think they should be able to tank is that shaman was tankable in vanilla and they got some tanking abilitys for it aswell. Just commen people that ignore the facts that shaman can be tanks. |
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and as I mentioned before the Druid tank is anything but the best tank. Especially at lower levels. In my opinion there should be three tank classes. Warrior, Pally and DK. As I said though so long as they don't touch ele I couldn't care less.
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Oh yeah, right. Your statement about that is obviously backed up by stacks of paperwork. I can tell you that the only ones wanting shamans to tank - or at least think it should be some kind of priority right now, are infact "common" people, and not the ones that dedicate real time and effort into the class. |
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Edited by Ezelis on 11/07/12 14:12 (BST)
After offing her sister *and* doing her work for her with reassembling the world pillar, she *owes* us that much. =p
I have played shaman since I started playing WoW, my original main is a shaman, and I make a shaman main on every new server I go on. I don't have *anything* against getting a tank spec, and what annoys me is that people are whining about it because of either the idea that they'd have to ruin one of the preexisting specs just to make a tanking one or that it's "not in the lore". First of all, where in the lore does it say that shamans *can't* use their powers for defense? Second, in MoP druids get 4 specs, why not add a tanking spec for us too? |
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Edited by Avatena on 11/07/12 14:34 (BST)
This!! Yes that should be made, because every class that can be tanks should be, then we will get some new playstyle classes to try out. Shaman tank Warlock tank |
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Nope. Masztaar and Solex have already posted many many constructive responses for why and Blizzard have said they wont do it for mists so theres no need for anymore 2h or tank specs till the end of MoP.
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Edited by Masztaar on 11/07/12 20:07 (BST)
So in that statement I can gather the following: 1: You have plenty of shamans. 2: You have started playing WoW at some point, when is unclear. 3: You post on a shaman stacked with green gear, that has a grand total of 76 achievements, give or take 1-2. 4: You make a new shaman main on every server you go on, no warning signals go off for any serious players on that note. There is a pattern forming above. I'm not much for lore (although I'm by no means uninterested in the story), my reason for not wanting a 4th spec dedicated to tanking is as follows: 1: They are having trouble tuning the specs we already have, and Enhancement recieves very little attention. 2: They are already adding a new tank class in MoP. 3: The fact that so many threads show up about this subject when MoP is close on the horizon, tells me that this class is plagued by alot of players that I would call "overly casual". That meaning that you haven't experienced the painfulness of playing Enhancement in PVE raiding, or both Enhance/Elemental in rated PvP on live. If you had, then this would be a fart in space on your list of concerns. EDIT:
Thank you, and agreed. |
I could get into a huge lore discussion about how Therazane really doesn't care (the only reason she doesn't kill you on the spot is because you have proved helpful to her more patient sons) at all what you did, as long as you leave and preferably take the twilights hammer with you. We are the invaders in deepholm, a place that is in a way sacred, the first interaction anyone had on a physical level corrupted the land and binded the elementals to twilight cult will. I have played shaman since I started playing WoW, my original main is a shaman,Most people on these forums main shaman or show interest in it. A lot of them started with shaman as their main. and I make a shaman main on every new server I go on. Reroll so much why? I don't have *anything* against getting a tank spec, and what annoys me is that people are whining about it because of either the idea that they'd have to ruin one of the preexisting specs just to make a tanking one or that it's "not in the lore". These arguments are bad yes, but it is true that adding a 4th spec to a class with a history of being underdeveloped is hardly a good idea. IF Blizzard turned around and gave more attention to shamans as a class then it'd be the perfect time for them to implement possibly both 2h viability (not sure how it would work within the enhance spec anymore), and a tanking tree. Before then it's not worth asking for - this is coming from someone who has played shaman for years, tested and minmaxed, enhance etc. in the past (not anymore) who would love shaman tanks. First of all, where in the lore does it say that shamans *can't* use their powers for defense? Second, in MoP druids get 4 specs, why not add a tanking spec for us too? There is no lore argument against shaman tanks, or in fact most tanks. I told that to the OP in my first response(s). |
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Edited by Kneecrusher on 12/07/12 08:46 (BST)
>Mixing game mechanics with lore
Are you stupid or just pretending? Remove ability to use holy spells to undead priests, it doesn't fit into lore! |
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anyone who agrees about shaman tanking visit this thread!
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4210106962?page=4 |
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Edited by Caestra on 14/07/12 18:43 (BST)
Justicer´s thread about shaman tanking is alot more worked out then that thread, those who agree on shaman tanking, should visit his thread instead. Here it is: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3129453760 |
