Topic Nerf av reputation or buff ab and wsg
Oldtrafford
Grim Batol
Oldtrafford
90 Human Mage
8065
That's ridiculous the av rep is far too easy compared with the other 2 for justicar

I got hero of the stormpike with like 32 wins? But had to farm 550+ wsg for silverwing sentinel

Where is the balance?

Ab is even worse with the nerfed rep gain per resource.

Nerf av to the level of wsg and ab or just make them all same, what's the point of making av eez mode while keeping ab and wsg for no lifers nerds.
Eggs
Outland
Eggs
85 Night Elf Hunter
11200
Edited by Eggs on 07/07/12 12:57 (BST)
Nah, its fine

As you've posted in the past, all you do is piss about in the middle and let other people win for you

I can see why you think its a much bigger grind than it actually is.
Demidov
Argent Dawn
Demidov
90 Undead Warlock
Raw
9350
Edited by Demidov on 07/07/12 12:50 (BST)

Ab is even worse with the nerfed rep gain per resource.

They fixed it last patch, I think.

07/07/2012 12:39Posted by Oldtrafford
keeping ab and wsg for no lifers nerds.


PROUD OF IT

Though, I still don't have the WSG one, need 15k~ more, and I cba playing as much anymore.
Anvarra
Terokkar
Anvarra
29 Gnome Warlock
6785
Edited by Anvarra on 07/07/12 13:06 (BST)
07/07/2012 12:39Posted by Oldtrafford
no lifers nerds.


'No lifer' being in this context someone who has something the user of the word doesn't, while of course those who don't have what the user of the word has iare 'scrubs'.

(good post on this stupid phenomenon http://thegrumpyelf.blogspot.nl/2012/06/no-lifer-and-scrub.html )

People make different choices, based on what they deem (more) important. For all you know 'no lifers' that have one or more Justicars (or old-skool Battlemasters) are just good at time-management and long-term thinking.
Moolun
Twilight's Hammer
Moolun
85 Tauren Druid
8175
Edited by Moolun on 07/07/12 13:15 (BST)
07/07/2012 12:50Posted by Demidov
I cba playing as much anymore.


I know what u mean. A month almost passed and i still /afk the mom i get wsg as a map currently. Maybe in one month more or two i will gladly play it again as it used to be (prolly still is) one of my favorite maps.

07/07/2012 12:39Posted by Oldtrafford
for no lifers nerds.


Yo, this toon was made in TBC. I wasn' t doing many bgs back then so did not gain reputation from turning badges.

I got Conqueror a month ago. So patience and get some manners.
Oldtrafford
Grim Batol
Oldtrafford
90 Human Mage
8065
Edited by Oldtrafford on 07/07/12 13:52 (BST)
You are missing the point, i'm exalted with wsg and av and i'm 1k far from revered with ab

the main point is why av is easy mode when wsg and ab are not

it makes no sense whatsoever.

Inb4 vanilla badge's hero come in and point the finger defending the actual state of the grind.
Blueprint
Nagrand
Blueprint
85 Dwarf Shaman
11170
From what i've been able to understand you gain rep over time in AB from bases as well as defending and taking them (I think). And in WSG you gain rep over time and for flag caps.

Now in AV you gain rep over time, for taking and defending towers, graveyards, killing the bosses and so forth so by my assumption that could be totally wrong the reason you gain more rep from AV is because there is a lot more actually going on. Sure it is a very fast paced BG but thats just how it is now.
Demidov
Argent Dawn
Demidov
90 Undead Warlock
Raw
9350
07/07/2012 14:15Posted by Blueprint
From what i've been able to understand you gain rep over time in AB from bases as well as defending and taking them (I think). And in WSG you gain rep over time and for flag caps.


Don't think it works that way. Only rep you get from WSG is if you cap flags, if your team doesn't caps any, you don't get any rep from it. Same goes for AB, if your team has no bases, that means you won't get any resources, meaning you won't get any reputation.
Zakkar
Darkspear
Zakkar
18 Troll Hunter
10735
Only rep you get from WSG is if you cap flags, if your team doesn't caps any, you don't get any rep from it. Same goes for AB, if your team has no bases, that means you won't get any resources, meaning you won't get any reputation.


Exactly right.

On topic, I think we are basically guaranteed nerfs to both WSG and AB reps. It definitely looks to me that they made both these reps harder without actually intending to do that, this was an accident. No opinion on whether the nerfs would be a good thing, I am fine either way.
Darkblayder
Kilrogg
Darkblayder
53 Orc Rogue
550
To be fair i would like that if they would revamp AV same thing but some thing will change.
Blueprint
Nagrand
Blueprint
85 Dwarf Shaman
11170
07/07/2012 14:17Posted by Demidov
Don't think it works that way. Only rep you get from WSG is if you cap flags, if your team doesn't caps any, you don't get any rep from it. Same goes for AB, if your team has no bases, that means you won't get any resources, meaning you won't get any reputation.


Ah right, I wasn't 100% sure on the rep gains for WSG and AB but yeah, they really need to sort out the rep gains since you can hit exalted with Stormpike/ Frostwolf before you are even 85 and the other two are a nightmare.
Blayzereborn
Hellscream
Blayzereborn
90 Human Warrior
18340
Buff WSG rep, definitely--and start by making it reward time and effort somehow, not just luck.

See my Justicar title? It means nothing, other than that I got lucky a lot in WSG--but it doesn't tell you just how unlucky I also got there.

And I was a hell of a lot more unlucky than I was lucky, I can tell you that for free.
Bety
Defias Brotherhood
Bety
85 Undead Hunter
3245
Nah, its fine

As you've posted in the past, all you do is piss about in the middle and let other people win for you

I can see why you think its a much bigger grind than it actually is.


+1
Poisonjoe
Outland
Poisonjoe
90 Human Rogue
8725
Buff WSG rep, definitely--and start by making it reward time and effort somehow, not just luck.

See my Justicar title? It means nothing, other than that I got lucky a lot in WSG--but it doesn't tell you just how unlucky I also got there.

And I was a hell of a lot more unlucky than I was lucky, I can tell you that for free.

You got justicar with 34k kills wtf dude?
Blayzereborn
Hellscream
Blayzereborn
90 Human Warrior
18340
Buff WSG rep, definitely--and start by making it reward time and effort somehow, not just luck.

See my Justicar title? It means nothing, other than that I got lucky a lot in WSG--but it doesn't tell you just how unlucky I also got there.

And I was a hell of a lot more unlucky than I was lucky, I can tell you that for free.

You got justicar with 34k kills wtf dude?


I spent most of my time in WSG and AB defending the flag room and Stables respectively. Needless to say, most of the fighting passed me by.
Oldtrafford
Grim Batol
Oldtrafford
90 Human Mage
8065
08/07/2012 01:07Posted by Blueprint
Don't think it works that way. Only rep you get from WSG is if you cap flags, if your team doesn't caps any, you don't get any rep from it. Same goes for AB, if your team has no bases, that means you won't get any resources, meaning you won't get any reputation.


Ah right, I wasn't 100% sure on the rep gains for WSG and AB but yeah, they really need to sort out the rep gains since you can hit exalted with Stormpike/ Frostwolf before you are even 85 and the other two are a nightmare.


Indeed got hero of the frostwolf/stormpike on 2 alts while levelling just need like 25/ 30 win for it.

Ab is ridiculous 19 points when you hit the required resource level as human with increased rep gain.
Spicy
Anachronos
Spicy
90 Night Elf Druid
17320
It was a very very very long grind for me. I'm not the sort to moan and whine about nerfs. If they make stuff a tad easier then good luck to you. I know I got my achievement when it was a long azz grind!

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