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*Trolling comments such as ''lolz h0rde suckzz'' will be reported!*
- I have been farming honor points in bg's these days and so far I have only won.. say 6 matches out of those 100 I have participated in. This is getting very frustrating for me since it makes farming take even longer... I've talked with with a few players I have come across and it turns out that I am not the only one. Quite a few had lost several matches in a row! This confirms that this is NOT only happening for me. A few even said from the beginning of the match;''Let's just lose this quickly. It's a waste of time''. Now, onto the question at hand; What the hell is wrong with Horde? And why the hell are we losing every single match? Well, maybe not every single but you get the idea.... Skinhat |
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The Vicious Cycle of BG Losing:
1. Kids join Alliance 2. Alliance loses BGs because most of the kids are undergeared 3. Kids join Horde 4. Horde loses BGs because most of the kids are undergeared We must just wait for the Alliance to take back what's theirs :D |
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From the perspective of someone who mainly plays as Alliance, I can tell you that it often feels very similar from the other side of the playing field. We also have those players that advise everyone to lose quickly just two minutes or so into the game.
Having said that, the experience varies a lot from week to week. Sometimes I won't win a game all night, other times it's a lot better. Also, I find my chances of winning seem to go up significantly if I team up with friends. Even if it's just me and one other person communicating and working together, we can often help turn the tide. Give it a try :) |
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Edited by Haerdalish on 25/07/12 11:11 (BST)
C u m hoc ergo propter hoc.
Just because you've been in a few bad matches does not mean anything. Edit: Seriously, the board censors latin words? Sieg heil to you too. |
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Play later in the evening if you can. I find Horde win more in the evening, Alliance more earlier in the evening/late afternoon.
No idea why. I'm sure people can furnish their theories. When I play BGs on either side, I see the same ratio of people doing stupid things/saying stupid things and whinging like babies. So, I have no rational explanation as to why the winning happens more at these times than others. My theory has to do with the lunar cycle........ |
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Haha it's funny how a horde comes and tell me the this, when the exactly same thing happens for alliance. :-P
I dont know why you're so unfortunate, but i think many people are just so negative and pessimistic after they lost several matches. Just do whatever you can, play your best. If you play your best, you will get the most honor you ever could have acquirred in that single match because: You kill more players, you participate in more battles(Even if you defend, if you are patient enough, some players will come and attack it, if you kill them, you get honor, and that honor is increased because of defending) But dont you think that 6 out of 100 is abit unrealistic? I think so. I believe the 'win/loss bgs' for alliance and horde are like this: (From my experience, around 6-7 years of WoW) WSG - Mostly Horde AB - Equal AV - Alliance EOTS - Horde Twin Peaks - Mostly Horde IoC - Mostly Alliance Battle of Gilneas - Equal SotA - Equal |
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To be fair, we've (we as in programmers) haven't quite managed to get artificial intelligence to the point where it can derive context like that. So, all it saw was the word and said "I'm sorry Dave, but I'm afraid I can't do that". |
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There are some "tendencies" in certain bgs but overall, I never felt I loose a lot more than I win bgs. For example, I always found horde to loose a lot of AVs but win more in WSGs.
But no, I'd say a 6/100 win-loss is rather weird. I geared up a paladin alt during the weekend, and I think I won 6 or 7 Eots in a roll, out of 10-12 ones I joined. |
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I've played both horde and alliance. The arguments and complaints are the same on both sides. There is no faction that has a greater proportion of mature or skilled players - they both have boneheads and skill in equal abundance.
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I have a feeling that blizzard use some advanced balancing algorithms for bg-s, like giving invisible buffs to one team so both sides win/lose approximately same. This is based on my subjective observation that I sometimes kill very easy some players and sometimes it's very hard (note that they use similar gear) in 1v1 inside bg.
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I think this is more likely just RnG at work than invisible buffs. I've been in BGs where the other team were seriously undergeared and got eaten alive. Likewise I've been in BGs where most of my team were seriously undergeared and we got eaten alive. No super buff saved them, or us! :P |
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I play a lot of BGs lately with 4 of my chars. After hundreds of games I have a 55-60% win ratio on each of my characters which is perfectly balanced and acceptable. Last 3-4 days i have a 70+% win ratio on WSG which is a pleasant surprise. Note that i never join premades.
My point is, the factions seem to be pretty balanced. As expected of a blue, Takralus described the whole situation very accurately. |
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for me who play on a PvE server its the way around.
if im lucky i win 1 of 5 matches -_- |
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Some people are just unlucky with their matches. They end up in groups where their team is just not that good or the other team is far superior, it's just too bad, like RNG.
Tried it myself a whole lot in my "do-BG's"-sessions. Sometimes you're just unlucky, sometimes you have a close and intense fight and sometimes you can wreck havoc on your opponent. Just gotta treat it like RNG that "you" have slightly more control over. People immediately going, "let's just lose" should just get lost. Don't care about contributing? GTFO. |
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''lolz h0rde suckzz''
you can always try premades |
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I've played both Horde and Alliance and both sides win and lose just as much as each other. The common stereotype that 'Kids join Alliance' is not true, as I've met a handful of players who are older than 18 as well as younger, and there was a good mixture of maturity and immaturity among them from both sides. Winning BGs is not by default a privilege for a faction, but rather something that must be earned.
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According to your armory:
Battlegrounds played 89 Battlegrounds won 27 Sure, that's probably less than you'd expect, but it's in a different ballpark than 6 out of 100. |
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Edited by Ternezia on 25/07/12 13:50 (BST)
Nah. It's nothing to do with horde or alliance. It's pure luck that seems to be distributed evenly between the two factions, lol. Because statistics show 50:50 win lose ratio no matter the faction.
I moved to another realm with several RL friends who played horde before, but here we started as alliance. After dinging 85 they were horrified at the amount of lost bg's. To such degree that they leveled horde chars and started playing with them. I too leveled a horde. My first battlegrounds at 85 were...7 loses in a row. So sometimes I lose as alliance, sometimes I lose as horde, all that matters is I lose hehe. I don't mind. The good thing in MOP will be that we can cap valor points with daily quests, to not rely on battleground conquest cap. |
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89 Battlegrounds played - 27 won. Thats what your statistics show.
So you aren't doing as badly as you claim. Remember that in most bg's, at least half the team on each side is clueless, so if you can focus on objectives you can really make a difference. |
