Topic MoP Burst. Bye bye WoW, have been a great "life"
Marina
Outland
Marina
85 Human Warrior
7125
16/07/2012 17:56Posted by Sveraes
Playing on the beta I can confirm that burst is a lot higher at level 90, than 85.


You realise that the start of the expansion is always that way?

I globalled people in S1 and S5 and S9.

Apparently people are going to be surprised when they get globalled in S12.
Barbie
Auchindoun
Barbie
85 Undead Mage
12730
Your dress looks lovely too ginger

happy?


Very. :D
Nakatoir
Nakatoir
Community
I am going to reiterate on some of the statement in this thread and just point out a few additional things to clear up possible woes you may have. Yes, this is burst and some classes are doing a fair whack of damage, but there are a few points that you have to remember:
  • This is the beta and class adjustments are constantly occurring, lots of changes are still to come. The numbers you see in the video may and probably will change in the future.
  • You cannot tell what gear is being worn by either player in the video, so the damage numbers may be under or over what you should be expecting.
  • This is a player trying to use all of their abilities to burst down Swifty as quickly as possible with them not having to worry about incoming damage, protecting themselves or many other things that you need to be thinking about during a match.
  • There are no defensive cooldowns used in the video as far as I could see and he also had his back to the opponent as much as possible to avoid parries for the melee.


So, this is simply showing the highest possible damage that a class can do under optimal conditions and it does not reflect what will occur in a real match between 2 teams of players.
Mírion
Outland
Mírion
90 Human Paladin
14665
Edited by Westlifeglen on 17/07/12 03:06 (BST)
None with common sense takes these kind of films seriously.
Tublat
Khadgar
Tublat
80 Orc Hunter
1095
How stupid that moonkins don't need to cast, and elementals lavabursting with no cd.
Marina
Outland
Marina
85 Human Warrior
7125
Edited by Marina on 16/07/12 18:44 (BST)
16/07/2012 18:34Posted by Nakatoir
[ul][li]This is the beta and class adjustments are constantly occurring, lots of changes are still to come.


Oh come on. The start of every expansion has been stupid, please don't try to feed this crap.

S1 was dumb with stupid burst. S5 was dumb with stupid burst, S9 was dumb with stupid burst.

I have absolutely no trust whatsoever in Blizzard to make S12 any less dumb.
Prosít
Outland
Prosít
90 Human Hunter
12850
16/07/2012 18:43Posted by Marina
[ul][li]This is the beta and class adjustments are constantly occurring, lots of changes are still to come.


Oh come on. The start of every expansion has been stupid, please don't try to feed this crap.

S1 was dumb with stupid burst. S5 was dumb with stupid burst, S9 was dumb with stupid burst.

I have absolutely no trust whatsoever in Blizzard to make S12 any less dumb.
And yet we keep playing, one must question the sanity of WoW Pvpers <3
Lupix
Moonglade
Lupix
85 Human Paladin
9865
Edited by Lupix on 16/07/12 19:00 (BST)
There is no need to worry about bursts the smaller or higher they can be when you can apply a big cc chain and lockdown anyone with: poly>RoF>DF>Insta fear so the question is just how fast will you die? :D

PS: Nerf CC's.
Gorgonar
Anub'arak
Gorgonar
90 Troll Druid
12710
16/07/2012 18:37Posted by Tublat
How stupid that moonkins don't need to cast, and elementals lavabursting with no cd.


He did it wrong though...should have used CA, Incarnation, Natures Vigil (wasn't a lvl 90 talent when this vid was created yet), pre-planted 3 Mushrooms, used Starfall ,casted a SS on max range and casted a Starfire with MF&Sunfire directly after the cast ends + Mushroom Detonation. Everything would hit within 1 or 2 seconds and could have been enough to kill Swifty, if he has > 30% life cast another Starfire + another MF&SF spam, if he has <30% just Moonfire twice or thrice to kill him.

But whatever, embarrassing Moonfire spam Moonkin retard :<
Marina
Outland
Marina
85 Human Warrior
7125
I loved moonfire spam in Vanilla.
Gorgonar
Anub'arak
Gorgonar
90 Troll Druid
12710
16/07/2012 18:52Posted by Marina
I loved moonfire spam in Vanilla.


I love casting.

no really :(
Nakatoir
Nakatoir
Community
Edited by Nakatoir on 16/07/12 18:57 (BST)
16/07/2012 18:43Posted by Marina
Oh come on. The start of every expansion has been stupid, please don't try to feed this crap.

I was simply stating that you cannot take these numbers at face value. They do not show how long a player will survive when applying both pressure and defensive cooldowns into the equation. The numbers shown here will also change, you are not able to tell how damage and mitigation will be when the expansion goes live by looking at the beta.
Gorgonar
Anub'arak
Gorgonar
90 Troll Druid
12710
16/07/2012 18:56Posted by Nakatoir
Oh come on. The start of every expansion has been stupid, please don't try to feed this crap.

I was simply stating that you cannot take these numbers at face value. They do not show how long a player will survive when applying both pressure and defensive cooldowns into the equation. The numbers shown here will also change, you are not able to tell how damage and mitigation will be when the expansion goes live from looking at the beta.


Fix bugged weapons ! :P
Nakatoir
Nakatoir
Community
16/07/2012 18:57Posted by Gorgonar
Fix bugged weapons ! :P
Absolute genius, good sir! ^^
Gorgonar
Anub'arak
Gorgonar
90 Troll Druid
12710
16/07/2012 18:58Posted by Nakatoir
Fix bugged weapons ! :P
Absolute genius, good sir! ^^


My mom always used to say I'm a clever boy.
Hyená
Nagrand
Hyená
90 Night Elf Druid
8765
Any druids in here think it's strange that swifty NEVER fights GOOD moonkins?
Gorgonar
Anub'arak
Gorgonar
90 Troll Druid
12710
16/07/2012 18:51Posted by Gorgonar
How stupid that moonkins don't need to cast, and elementals lavabursting with no cd.


He did it wrong though...should have used CA, Incarnation, Natures Vigil (wasn't a lvl 90 talent when this vid was created yet), pre-planted 3 Mushrooms, used Starfall ,casted a SS on max range and casted a Starfire with MF&Sunfire directly after the cast ends + Mushroom Detonation. Everything would hit within 1 or 2 seconds and could have been enough to kill Swifty, if he has > 30% life cast another Starfire + another MF&SF spam, if he has <30% just Moonfire twice or thrice to kill him.

But whatever, embarrassing Moonfire spam Moonkin retard :<


16/07/2012 19:01Posted by Hyená
Any druids in here think it's strange that swifty NEVER fights GOOD moonkins?


take a close look
Rewn
Zenedar
Rewn
90 Goblin Shaman
13030
Looks like no PvP gear, or at the very least, very little PvP. Doesn't look like the passive 30% resilience is active or maybe its been ditched. Beta numbers are still being balanced (as an example Lava burst was just nerfed by 20% because of !@#$ like in this video). You really can't say anything about the conditions of balance consider it's 1) Beta and 2) you have no idea of the specifics of the conditions under which the tests were done.
Vîrent
Outland
Vîrent
85 Undead Priest
6235
16/07/2012 19:02Posted by Gorgonar


He did it wrong though...should have used CA, Incarnation, Natures Vigil (wasn't a lvl 90 talent when this vid was created yet), pre-planted 3 Mushrooms, used Starfall ,casted a SS on max range and casted a Starfire with MF&Sunfire directly after the cast ends + Mushroom Detonation. Everything would hit within 1 or 2 seconds and could have been enough to kill Swifty, if he has > 30% life cast another Starfire + another MF&SF spam, if he has <30% just Moonfire twice or thrice to kill him.

But whatever, embarrassing Moonfire spam Moonkin retard :<


16/07/2012 19:01Posted by Hyená
Any druids in here think it's strange that swifty NEVER fights GOOD moonkins?


take a close look


nop cant see anyone
Valienca
Sylvanas
Valienca
90 Human Rogue
11860
He refferad a Hemo rogue as someone who puts up Revealing Strike (Combat only spell). Swifty only knows whats up with Warriors, Sadly. The first rogue in that video (as stated) have the bugged daggers which obviously won't be on live servers.

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