Topic We need a new Insane
Jon
Sinstralis
Jon
85 Troll Druid
11615
Edited by Jon on 24/07/12 23:58 (BST)
24/07/2012 16:25Posted by Vaneras
It could be interesting to know what you guys think think should be the requirements for a new insane achievement then?


/sarcasm on
something that doesn't take too much time to develop so that the developers can stay focused on things that a vast majority of players will enjoy and do. why spend too much effort on something that concern 0.5% of the population...
/sarcasm off

that been said, the easy way to do this (very few dev time) is to add a meta 'insane' achievement which requires you to get the insane achievement on 10 characters of the same account (wow account not battle.net account), each of a different class.
Chippen
Shattered Hand
Chippen
90 Blood Elf Paladin
12425
Nice read indeed :-)

It could be interesting to know what you guys think think should be the requirements for a new insane achievement then?


There can be several variations. If do not depart from the old concept of "getting exalted with X factions", it is possible, for example, to achieve a reputation in ALL existing factions (including the reputation of the original Insane in the Membrane, but not using the removed factions). However, it should take into account the fact that not every reputation can be solo obtained (for example, Avengers of Hyjal from Firelands). There is a lot to think about.

Also you can create an achievement for that it would be needed to participate in every aspect of the game:
- to get exalted with X factions, which can be achieved on its own
- to participate in World PvP (for example to kill X players in location Y) or BG (but again, not achieve it solo)
- to make a certain number of quests (as in the part of the Loremaster)
- to collect X rare battle pets
- to kill X rare creatures (as a part of Bloody Rare / Frostbitten achievement)
-To pass all challenges with silver / gold (but again it requires the participation of the group, but not one singular person)
- to level up to a maximum level X characters (can be 10 or 11)


This is a great idea! I'm all up for it! :)
Keljorbanker
Earthen Ring
Keljorbanker
12 Orc Hunter
50
what about,

[1] Collection 100 mounts (Number can be adjusted to take into account new mounts in MoP)
[2] Collection 100 Pets (Number can be adjusted to take into accound new pets in MoP)
[3] Insane in the Membraine achievement
[4] Exaulted with Avengers of Hyjal, Kalu'al, Frenzyheart and Oracle Tribes.
[5] Must have What A Long, Strange Trip It's Been.
[6] Loremaster and World Explorer (to include new zones in MoP)
[7] To get To All The Squirrels I've Loved Before, To All The Squirrels Who Shared My Life and To All The Squirrels Who Cared For Me and Pest Control Achievements.

Reward: Title, <Name> The Collector or <name> The Dedicated.
Skylla
Al'Akir
Skylla
70 Undead Priest
8715
Edited by Skylla on 25/07/12 02:15 (BST)
Battle Master
Arena Master
Conqueror
New MoP Battlemaster
Of the Alliance/Horde

'the warhero'

Bloodsail Buccanneers exalted
Steamweedle Cartel exalted
The Scryers exalted
The Sha'tar exalted

the Idealist / the Negotiator / the Diplomat / Peacebloom or whatever

You get quests to get the prominent npc's of these factions to meet face to face. Talk with X, gather certain drinks/foods/items. After you complete this you start the actual meeting where they discuss peace. Negotiations will fail, but you still get a title as a reward.

Maybe even add a meta to the warhero and the idealist:
'of War and Peace' (with an in game mail that explains how engaging so much time in wow can impact your life/health in negative ways)
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Blackscar
Резация
90 Night Elf Druid
12480
+1
Rivianwolf
Sunstrider
Rivianwolf
90 Undead Warlock
15735
New insane should require some grinding reputations, Hydraxia Waterlords maybe? or just add some new ones :P and restoring Shen'dallar would be awesome!
I want new battlemaster.
Nightsight
Dragonblight
Nightsight
90 Undead Warlock
15615
Actually. something that would be pretty neat is having a requiredment for this "new" insane to be to kill X players in the open world. This would encourage world PvP.
Isellyoubuy
Doomhammer
Isellyoubuy
1 Human Paladin
0
1 of every class at 85
the exalted title
battlemaster title

all part of a meta.
Cutiepi
Outland
Cutiepi
1 Gnome Mage
0
Edited by Cutiepi on 25/07/12 11:17 (BST)
Hidden Npc's in the open world, preferably moving about to avoid spot on guides granting a series of unique quests all tied together, once all are completed you get a title; Shady <insert player name> / <Insert player name> of the Dark Covenant.

Could complete a story through the ages of warcraft


I like this idea, its something different to the usual grind this.. kill this or get that x amount of times :).

Plus a world pvp achievement would be nice to help stimulate it once again. Various titles that can be achieved by doing open world pvp objectives.
Ryze
Chamber of Aspects
Ryze
90 Blood Elf Paladin
10500
kill 10000 player targets that grant no honor, i.e. low levels
that would encourge more world pvp, excitement for low levels to fend for themselves and there will be players all over the map hunting each other

<name> the Dishonorable
Mantra
Zuluhed
Mantra
90 Goblin Warlock
7115
Edited by Mantra on 25/07/12 11:59 (BST)
Nice read indeed :-)

It could be interesting to know what you guys think think should be the requirements for a new insane achievement then?


In general I guess, it should be something time consuming - but interruptable, only little luck-dependent, generally by anyone achievable who puts enough effort into it (as in: Not skill-based), generally solo-able and optimally already track-able by current statistic information.

I heard something about account-wide achievements? I'd say, this opens the possibility for something like the "Ironman Challange". Probably in a bit of an altered form.
http://wowironman.com/rules

Something else could be:
- Get to level 90 without ever dealing any damage or healing (Would leave freedom for various methods to level up, such as being in a group 'leeching', gathering stuff from professions, only taking collect-quests, etc.)

or
- Complete all 'insert zone here' quests without the mount-skill

or
- Get XXXX Achievement points on a level 1 Character (Again, would leave the freedom to achieve it in various ways)... Although thinking about it, are there still points being tracked by individual characters?...

Sidenote: People would need a method to track, whether they actually failed the achievement already

That's all I can think of as of now. Maybe I'll add some more things later :)

Edit:
or
- ->Walking<- along the roads through every single map (Maybe even backpeddling)
Loneblade
Dragonblight
Loneblade
90 Blood Elf Paladin
15330
I personally respect anyone who works long for the hard achievements like the insane title. But as many things else lose their value through time, nerfs are coming down to the titles as well. The same things goes for vanilla pvp titles. I got my char to rank 13 to get warlord (field marshal coz i was ally back then) more than 18 hours a day over 2.5 months overall. Now rbgs offer the same title. I dont say rbgs are easy ofc but at least for the sanctity of the previous efforts blizz should give different titles for rbg content to respect the old dedicators of pvp.
But anyway have always suspicions upon if blizz even care about our posts for reasonable requests...
Shynis
Defias Brotherhood
Shynis
85 Blood Elf Hunter
3325
Something along the lines of getting 100 honorable kills on every contested zone in the world, would breath some life in the world.
Curunirtb
Laughing Skull
Curunirtb
90 Undead Mage
14740
I would really like a new Insane ach :D since the old one was alot of fun to grind

but I would like it more if blizz made it possible for me to get Exalted with Bloodsail Buccaneers.
Sanzul
Scarshield Legion
Sanzul
85 Troll Shaman
8055
Just use the account wide achievements to make "To The Max" meta-achievements:

  • Every class at 90.
  • Every race at 90. One achievement per faction, plus one to do both.
  • Complete all currently attainable raid tier sets for each class. Plus a meta for all classes.
  • Every profession to maximum, including secondary ones.


And some professional completionist stuff:
  • Archaeology: Complete every last possible project for every race.
  • Herbalism: pick one of every herb, including lotuses and stuff you only get from "skinning".
  • Mining: find every kind of ore. And gem. And "skinning" loot.
  • Skinning: find every kind of leather and fur, including stuff like Perfect Deviate Scale, Onyxia Scale and Pristine Hide of the Beast.
  • Fishing: catch one of every fish, including stuff like the vendorfish and magic crawdad.
  • Fishing: catch something in every fishable zone, including dungeons, raids and battlegrounds.
  • Craft one of each of all trainer-taught patterns for every profession.
  • Collect a ludicrous number of patterns. One achievement per profession, plus a meta.
  • Collect an even more ludicrous total number of patterns.
Hotless
Talnivarr
Hotless
90 Blood Elf Hunter
16450
-1

Insane in the Membrane was, it is and will be a hard achievement to get.
Some people will get it easier than others.
It doesn't really matter that they removed shen'dralar and they made darkmoon a bit more easier., the other reps are still very hard to get them to exalted.

As for me, because i am a very causal player, insane in the membrane is still considered an unobtainable achievement and if i see someone with the insane title from my realm he/she automatically enter my hall of fame list. and i will really admire that person.
Sanzul
Scarshield Legion
Sanzul
85 Troll Shaman
8055
And a bonus one to encourage meeting new people:
  • Earn exalted status with 10 different guilds on 10 different characters. The guilds must be level 10 or higher.
Crypter
Frostmane
Crypter
90 Night Elf Hunter
16330

Not really related to the "New insane" discussion, but a new Battlemaster would be neat.

Mjeeeees. :)
Mimusheep
Draenor
Mimusheep
85 Undead Mage
12435
/sarcasm on

What about making it extremely hard, and some months deep into the tier, remove 25% of the requeriments, and give another 25% for free like the actual Insane? Nah, I'm joking.... aren't I?

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