Topic Mages: OP or not? Your opinion!
Ironhope
Saurfang
Ironhope
85 Human Paladin
8750
13/08/2012 12:13Posted by Frozenpuikko
Undispellable. Nuff said


not sure if ur trolling or u simply dont realise what a 3 min cd means , it means a burst every 3 mins , it means....ohhh , just noticed ur a mage , nvm then

13/08/2012 12:13Posted by Frozenpuikko
You don't have the same pursuit of justice on live.


the difference is minor , the live one increases movement speed by 15% and grants 1 charge of hp whenever u get struck by a movement impairing effect , while the mop one increases movement speed by 15% and an additional 5% for every charge of holy power , up to 3

so yeah , its either pursuit of justice , or long arm of the law , either way u see it , ret got a major mobility nerf even tho ret mobility was bad alrdy

13/08/2012 12:13Posted by Frozenpuikko
I'm too !@#$ing tired to answer to all of those questions


then stop using the forum

13/08/2012 12:13Posted by Frozenpuikko
you generate HP much faster in MOP, more hp = more TV = more dmg.


what use to do a ton of dmg if u die b4 u can do any dmg and if u cant even catch the enemy so u can do teh dmg ? warriors proved how bad this concept is alrdy

13/08/2012 12:13Posted by Frozenpuikko
Simple as that.. you got selfless healer (on 3 stacks FoL will heal instant 100k non-crit on friendly player.)

450k hp pool

13/08/2012 12:13Posted by Frozenpuikko
And you got physical snare debuff, FROM 30Y range, its OP, undispellable!

yeah but u have to turn down repentance and fist of justice , and without fist of justice ur very vulnerable to enemy melee and repentance .... yea , its very unpractical for ret

13/08/2012 12:13Posted by Frozenpuikko
Wog no cd


the heal sucks , 3 hp used for wog means 3 hp not used for tv , no rule of law , no last word , no wog selfless healer , yeah , unlike the live wog which is based on quality this is a wog based on quantity , a concept which in my opinion will be proven pretty bad

13/08/2012 12:13Posted by Frozenpuikko
you got much more smoother rotation and a lot more of kewl stuff, example bubbleheart.


yes
Icycream
Darksorrow
Icycream
90 Human Mage
5395
Edited by Frozenpuikko on 13/08/12 12:40 (BST)
13/08/2012 12:32Posted by Ironhope
what use to do a ton of dmg if u die b4 u can do any dmg and if u cant even catch the enemy so u can do teh dmg ?


Heard of WoG to survive? Burden of guilt, long arm of the law and hand of freedom with clemency *facepalm* You must really suck if you can't kite/catch enemy in MOP.

13/08/2012 12:32Posted by Ironhope
450k hp pool


I was talking on lvl 85 (150k hp pool)

13/08/2012 12:32Posted by Ironhope
not sure if ur trolling


Not sure what don't you understand about 20% healing increase AND dmg increase.

You seriously should play beta before posting bs on forums.
Ironhope
Saurfang
Ironhope
85 Human Paladin
8750
13/08/2012 12:36Posted by Frozenpuikko
not sure if ur trolling


now i am

13/08/2012 12:36Posted by Frozenpuikko
I was talking on lvl 85 (150k hp pool)


uhhh , fol heals around 15k for ret in live , with 100% increase that means 30k , so.....lol ?

Heard of WoG to survive? Burden of guilt, long arm of the law and hand of freedom with clemency *facepalm* You must really suck if you can't kite/catch enemy in MOP.


im not sure what u mean with the 1st part
so what , u forgot we were talking about ret's having to choose between pursuit of justice and long arm of the law ? this meaning a major mobility nerf
clemency is rly good , but in case u don't realize , hand of freedom is dispelable

mate ,did u ever play a melee class ?

btw : im sorry for making long posts and leaving the topic subject (its not addressed to u frozen)
Icycream
Darksorrow
Icycream
90 Human Mage
5395
13/08/2012 12:51Posted by Ironhope
not sure if ur trolling


now i am

I was talking on lvl 85 (150k hp pool)


uhhh , fol heals around 15k for ret in live , with 100% increase that means 30k , so.....lol ?

Heard of WoG to survive? Burden of guilt, long arm of the law and hand of freedom with clemency *facepalm* You must really suck if you can't kite/catch enemy in MOP.


im not sure what u mean with the 1st part
so what , u forgot we were talking about ret's having to choose between pursuit of justice and long arm of the law ? this meaning a major mobility nerf
clemency is rly good , but in case u don't realize , hand of freedom is dispelable

mate ,did u ever play a melee class ?

btw : im sorry for making long posts and leaving the topic subject (its not addressed to u frozen)


My point is: You're !@#$ing bad paladin if you think paladins are worse in MOP than Cata, nuff said.. never gonna discuss such simple thing with retardin ever again.
Ironhope
Saurfang
Ironhope
85 Human Paladin
8750
my point : ur just raging seeing u cant use argumentation so u resume to insulting , np i understand , its not ur fault , ur simply limited at raging and insulting ^^

13/08/2012 13:52Posted by Frozenpuikko
never gonna discuss such simple thing with retardin ever again.


nice hearing u wont be talking to urself again
Amrö
Sylvanas
Amrö
85 Human Warrior
4250
Your kidding... really frost mages cant die, even if your frost barrier is down you still have frost nova, pet freeze, ring of frost, blink, cone of cold all that stuff, and you still have your resi, so thats bull!@#$ melee classes cant do anyhing vs mages and mages know it but they tend to QQ becuase they havent got full plate armor so they have less armor then melee classes!
Icycream
Darksorrow
Icycream
90 Human Mage
5395
14/08/2012 17:49Posted by Amrö
Your kidding... really frost mages cant die, even if your frost barrier is down you still have frost nova, pet freeze, ring of frost, blink, cone of cold all that stuff, and you still have your resi, so thats bull!@#$ melee classes cant do anyhing vs mages and mages know it but they tend to QQ becuase they havent got full plate armor so they have less armor then melee classes!


I'm totally not against nerfing frost mages dmg.
Risby
Blade's Edge
Risby
87 Draenei Shaman
7695
09/08/2012 20:40Posted by Oscurit
we go down easily in a melee range: anyone can kill us immediatly (yes, we die easily if we get caught, even with frost barrier)


never happen since all your tools to prevent meeles to even get near is more than enought to go out from a fight with 100% HP also,if they now manages to get to you,hey guess what! *blinks* and there the meele stands rooted/stunned again untill death.

your barrier absorbs also a hell of a damage and invisibility and silence is also one of the things i dont understand when you got tools enought to dominate the most classes.

i know restos are ower the top but mages will and always been good or more, so yes, i would say they are OP and they will stay OP in MoP.

nuff said.
Renegader
Dunemaul
Renegader
90 Undead Mage
14525
op is a mage
ba dum tish
Homesquash
Auchindoun
Homesquash
90 Gnome Mage
4295
12/08/2012 20:19Posted by Octu
Blink needs a longer cooldown and it should not remove stuns, cause that retarded.


Without stun removal, A Walkthrough Of Mage vs Warrior Duel.

Charge, Throwdown, Recklessness, Win.
Stroophy
Defias Brotherhood
Stroophy
22 Gnome Rogue
275
11/08/2012 00:29Posted by Andonidas
mages are the best


true that
Smackz
Stormrage
Smackz
85 Undead Mage
12295
Hell yeah! That's what makes them so fun.
Oscurit
Steamwheedle Cartel
Oscurit
85 Undead Mage
5470
So far i see this thread is useless. Non-mages here simply understand little about their class, and don't know how to fight a mage.

On an offtopic question, wich keybinding you use for spells?
Valestra
Deathwing
Valestra
85 Undead Mage
6925
OP, degree depending on race and gear. Human with Legendary and double damage trinkets > all.
Pämela
Outland
Pämela
90 Human Mage
11125
You wanna talk about op classes? I just saw a monk beating up an orc an human warior w/o breaking a sweat. monks are op, go on, go tell them
Stroophy
Defias Brotherhood
Stroophy
22 Gnome Rogue
275
So far i see this thread is useless. Non-mages here simply understand little about their class, and don't know how to fight a mage.

On an offtopic question, wich keybinding you use for spells?


you do something wrong then if u lose as mage
Youwantthis
Ravencrest
Youwantthis
90 Human Mage
EX
11920
16/08/2012 19:03Posted by Pämela
You wanna talk about op classes? I just saw a monk beating up an orc an human warior w/o breaking a sweat. monks are op, go on, go tell them

:D
Septulon
Stormscale
Septulon
75 Blood Elf Death Knight
620
Frost Mages atm seem INSANE. Cannot reach them over here. They can CC and blink and pretty much 90%/time I'll be snared when fighting them, which makes my Chains kinda dull against them. I can silence them and use anti-magic shell and Dark Simulacrum etc but that won't help me get to them. All I have is a snare which seems useless against them and Death Grip. And if I do get in melee range, the magic shield is likely to shrug off a few good blows that is IF I actually reach them.
Bluku
Tarren Mill
Bluku
85 Goblin Mage
9670
Nope perfectly balanced skillclass.

Only noobs complain.
Risby
Blade's Edge
Risby
87 Draenei Shaman
7695
Nope perfectly balanced skillclass.

Only noobs complain.


most mages a FotM rerollers, true players go with their class even if its UP (includes ele shammy, we lack alot of stuff)

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