Topic Spirits of Harmony Request
Tkain
Onyxia
Tkain
85 Worgen Druid
13505
For everyone who is not aware:

Spirit of Harmony is a crafting material that is bop and will be used for a lot of professions.

On my server there are barely 150 people on at prime time. How am I supposed to get Items that require Spirits of Harmony ? Do I need to lvl all professions myself now ? Do you expect all this people to go farming now ? they wont so I might be lucky but chances are low so why make them bop? That´s just a huge hassel for everyone! Make them drop so you can farm them ok but not bop thats redicioules.

How am I supposed to get other people to farm for hours to make this ?
http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=124625
That are 8 Spirits of Harmony thats a lot of hours of farming just for one item ?

That is not going to work out!
Walouze
Bronze Dragonflight
Walouze
85 Gnome Death Knight
10545
idd

Stupid idea
Vancoúver
Outland
Vancoúver
85 Human Mage
7150
I like it.

If you want an item then it's worth putting the effort in. In my humble opinion of course......
Tkain
Onyxia
Tkain
85 Worgen Druid
13505
15/08/2012 18:23Posted by Vancoúver
If you want an item then it's worth putting the effort in. In my humble opinion of course......


You did not understand...

If I want an item than I go farm for it but wait the crafter has to go farm for it way longer than myself. Look at the items 8 Orbs thats at least 4 Hours if your lucky from what drop rates are right now on the beta. And what do you do if your a crafter but a healer ?

That system does not work !
Camomilla
Frostmane
Camomilla
90 Blood Elf Rogue
14360
Of course it will be a pain at the start, but overall I do think it is a good change, and a nice way of "forcing" crafters to actually move their butt away from the ah:)
Phyrexianman
Burning Steppes
Phyrexianman
90 Dwarf Mage
4210
I read this as 'Elements of Harmony'

No regrets.
Vancoúver
Outland
Vancoúver
85 Human Mage
7150
15/08/2012 19:03Posted by Tkain
If you want an item then it's worth putting the effort in. In my humble opinion of course......


You did not understand...

If I want an item than I go farm for it but wait the crafter has to go farm for it way longer than myself. Look at the items 8 Orbs thats at least 4 Hours if your lucky from what drop rates are right now on the beta. And what do you do if your a crafter but a healer ?

That system does not work !


Well - yes I did understand; but I guess i'm lucky that I have characters with all professions maxed out so I won't need to rely on others. And if I need something then I will go out and grind it.

For you? Wll you have two choices - there WILL be crafted items available from other players in the AH; you'll just have to pay for it. Or you level a character and a profession so that you can do it yourself.

To be honest - this is hardly different to how it is now
Burdulf
Argent Dawn
Burdulf
84 Dwarf Paladin
1370
I really love the way Blizz keeps screwing over low pop realms more and more. Cross realm zones - hooray for node stealing! Now BoP mat for crafting...Yeah, force players to have every prof on their account now! Still waiting till they actually make everything you craft BoA.
And merges aren't happening. Mmmhm yeah!
Chunta
Tarren Mill
Chunta
90 Tauren Druid
9360
Hasn't this always beem the case or am i missing something? frozen orbs, chaos orbs etc? personally i like it selling boe's for 30k opening week of expansion :)
Rôbin
Ambossar
Rôbin
90 Night Elf Druid
9160
15/08/2012 19:03Posted by Tkain
And what do you do if your a crafter but a healer ?

Run an instance you get the mote of harmony from every creature and 10 can be combined to a spirit of harmony.
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/blog/5631713/Professions_Living_in_Perfect_Harmony_-15_08_2012
Let’s get right to it. Spirit of Harmony is a Bind on Pickup (or "BoP" to veterans) crafting material that can be found on every lootable creature in every zone in Pandaria -- from dungeons to the outdoor world.

So you will get your spirit of harmony, and of course the first few weeks such items will be realy expensiv, but the same thing happend in cata. Wher tailors could only make a limitid amount of dreamcloth because of the cooldown, yes you could ignore the cooldown with chaos orbs but you had to get those too, and you had to roll against others, but as far as I understand the new Spirit of Harmony concept you have to get 10 Motes of Harmony for 1 Spirit of Harmony, and the motes are white items so they will not be roled on.
Yajinden
Draenor
Yajinden
90 Troll Mage
15335
My big issue with this is that (at the moment) they will be BoP and not BoA right from the start. I tend to only play seriously on my main - alts are largely crafters, which means he is likely to have a whole pile of 'useless' mats on him while my other crafters sit with nothing.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of having only 1 crafting 'material' - goodbye to stacks and stacks of primals, eternals and volatiles - but I really think it needs to be BoA from the start. Even it it requires Blizz to find a way to make it faction bound as well. Not sure if that is an issue or not.
Rôbin
Ambossar
Rôbin
90 Night Elf Druid
9160
16/08/2012 10:59Posted by Yajinden
My big issue with this is that (at the moment) they will be BoP and not BoA right from the start. I tend to only play seriously on my main - alts are largely crafters, which means he is likely to have a whole pile of 'useless' mats on him while my other crafters sit with nothing.

As far as I can see it every one get something. when I look at the NPC http://www.wowdb.com/npcs/66685-danky-kim it seems you can buy crafting materials, not sure if it is bound to a profession or if everybody can buy items (like trade good vendor now), but at least the blizzard site said http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/blog/5631713/Professions_Living_in_Perfect_Harmony_-15_08_2012 "Herbalism: Purchase herbs."
Ok you do not get epics / mounts that way but you can use the spirit anyway, but even the epics seems to not last long, same item level as Mogu'shan Vaults (Raid Finder)
Yajinden
Draenor
Yajinden
90 Troll Mage
15335
Sorry, I guess I should clarify my post a bit.

This chap is a crafter, so he will have a use for the SoH. What I really should have said is that he'll probably have a surplus. What I would like to be able to do is distribute the mats across my toons as I require.
Shalora
Terenas
Shalora
67 Orc Warlock
11235
15/08/2012 19:57Posted by Vancoúver


You did not understand...

If I want an item than I go farm for it but wait the crafter has to go farm for it way longer than myself. Look at the items 8 Orbs thats at least 4 Hours if your lucky from what drop rates are right now on the beta. And what do you do if your a crafter but a healer ?

That system does not work !


Well - yes I did understand; but I guess i'm lucky that I have characters with all professions maxed out so I won't need to rely on others. And if I need something then I will go out and grind it.

For you? Wll you have two choices - there WILL be crafted items available from other players in the AH; you'll just have to pay for it. Or you level a character and a profession so that you can do it yourself.

To be honest - this is hardly different to how it is now

Alright, you are self-sufficient, but your point of view is not of Trading in an MMO.
The OP argument is valid, if I want an item, someone else has to farm it. In the end, it is just gold. I can sell my game time for gold. Sounds like work to me! :)
Dysnomia
Azjol-Nerub
Dysnomia
85 Tauren Priest
4715
17/08/2012 06:18Posted by Shalora
The OP argument is valid, if I want an item, someone else has to farm it. In the end, it is just gold. I can sell my game time for gold. Sounds like work to me! :)
Yep, theres nothing to stop him spending time grinding the gold to 'buy' the items then. problem solved!
Gannet
Jaedenar
Gannet
90 Undead Warlock
16845
Edited by Gannet on 17/08/12 13:39 (BST)
16/08/2012 03:01Posted by Chunta
Hasn't this always beem the case or am i missing something? frozen orbs, chaos orbs etc? personally i like it selling boe's for 30k opening week of expansion :)


They are the equivalent of Essence/primal/eternal/volatile.

I'm playing on beta atm, 600 tailoring/enchanting and i have to say these SoH don't come very hard. Sure if you want to grind specifically for them it might be a pain but you get plenty when you're doing your dailies, dungeons and other out world stuff.

although i usually don't agree with BoP stuff in crafting this implementation isn't that bad

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