Topic More *SPOILERS* Tides of War
Morrigwen
Argent Dawn
Morrigwen
85 Worgen Druid
8260
From Scrolls of Lore -:


Archmage Aethas apologized for the Sunreaver mage's treason and because he recommended him to join Rhonin for this task, but he claimed his actions are condemned by Aethas and the Sunreavers, and they had nothing to do with that.

Aethas voted in favor of Jaina taking the leadership of the Kirin Tor. Considering she now has a anti-Horde mindset -- that gotta count as we totally disagree with the traitor's actions.

Khadgar is part of the Council and suggested based on Krasus' scrolls of prophecy and Rhonin's final words that she should be the new leader.


Khadger has confirmed to have been neutral since his encounter in Shattrath, and also a member of the six, and apparently Dalaran will remain neutral and yet more Horde fan-boying as the Sunreavers recieve no punishment at all for being responsible for the death of Dalarans leader, simply saying 'sorry'.

This is meant to be our moment of fist-bumping for the Alliance, yet we've lost one main character (looks like Jania won't hate the Horde entirely, just Garrosh, thus basically neutral and leader of a neutral faction), confirmed loss of another (Khadger) and gained nothing in return.
Arkadya
Silvermoon
Arkadya
85 Worgen Druid
8525
all i hear is qq.
Terovar
Argent Dawn
Terovar
90 Human Paladin
16290
From Scrolls of Lore -:


Archmage Aethas apologized for the Sunreaver mage's treason and because he recommended him to join Rhonin for this task, but he claimed his actions are condemned by Aethas and the Sunreavers, and they had nothing to do with that.

Aethas voted in favor of Jaina taking the leadership of the Kirin Tor. Considering she now has a anti-Horde mindset -- that gotta count as we totally disagree with the traitor's actions.

Khadgar is part of the Council and suggested based on Krasus' scrolls of prophecy and Rhonin's final words that she should be the new leader.


Khadger has confirmed to have been neutral since his encounter in Shattrath, and also a member of the six, and apparently Dalaran will remain neutral and yet more Horde fan-boying as the Sunreavers recieve no punishment at all for being responsible for the death of Dalarans leader, simply saying 'sorry'.

This is meant to be our moment of fist-bumping for the Alliance, yet we've lost one main character (looks like Jania won't hate the Horde entirely, just Garrosh, thus basically neutral and leader of a neutral faction), confirmed loss of another (Khadger) and gained nothing in return.


AWWWWWWWWWWW NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THIS NEUTRAL S*** AGAIN?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM TIRED OF -NEUTRALITY-, PUNISH THEM ALL DAMN IT!
Morrigwen
Argent Dawn
Morrigwen
85 Worgen Druid
8260
21/08/2012 03:21Posted by Arkadya
all i hear is qq.


Not really, it's constructive criticism which this forum is apparently made for.

The simple fact is that the Alliance has continually been let down through WoW while the Horde has been allowed to flourish. Our last hope was Jania for some rational wrath, but alas, that's extinguished too by the looks of it. And to top it all off, it very much looks like she will be a NEUTRAL figure from now on..

Her hatred is reserved only for Garrosh, completely ignoring that the Orc natio whole heartidly supported him. Her hatred is reserved only for Garrosh, ignoring the entire Forsaken mess and what Sylvanas has done to the northern kingdoms.

The Horde needs reprocussions to happen to them. Not simply 'oh, we're sorry, here, kill this lone guy and we'll be good'.
Terovar
Argent Dawn
Terovar
90 Human Paladin
16290
21/08/2012 10:00Posted by Faelyx
all i hear is qq.


Not really, it's constructive criticism which this forum is apparently made for.

The simple fact is that the Alliance has continually been let down through WoW while the Horde has been allowed to flourish. Our last hope was Jania for some rational wrath, but alas, that's extinguished too by the looks of it. And to top it all off, it very much looks like she will be a NEUTRAL figure from now on..

Her hatred is reserved only for Garrosh, completely ignoring that the Orc natio whole heartidly supported him. Her hatred is reserved only for Garrosh, ignoring the entire Forsaken mess and what Sylvanas has done to the northern kingdoms.

The Horde needs reprocussions to happen to them. Not simply 'oh, we're sorry, here, kill this lone guy and we'll be good'.


Damn right!
Deatholdt
Draenor
Deatholdt
85 Human Death Knight
2275
http://youtu.be/ussCHoQttyQ
Stábber
Outland
Stábber
76 Blood Elf Rogue
7195
From Scrolls of Lore -:



Yes i am waiting i want to kill every alliance..

Khadger has confirmed to have been neutral since his encounter in Shattrath, and also a member of the six, and apparently Dalaran will remain neutral and yet more Horde fan-boying as the Sunreavers recieve no punishment at all for being responsible for the death of Dalarans leader, simply saying 'sorry'.

This is meant to be our moment of fist-bumping for the Alliance, yet we've lost one main character (looks like Jania won't hate the Horde entirely, just Garrosh, thus basically neutral and leader of a neutral faction), confirmed loss of another (Khadger) and gained nothing in return.


AWWWWWWWWWWW NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THIS NEUTRAL S*** AGAIN?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM TIRED OF -NEUTRALITY-, PUNISH THEM ALL DAMN IT!


From Scrolls of Lore -:



Khadger has confirmed to have been neutral since his encounter in Shattrath, and also a member of the six, and apparently Dalaran will remain neutral and yet more Horde fan-boying as the Sunreavers recieve no punishment at all for being responsible for the death of Dalarans leader, simply saying 'sorry'.

This is meant to be our moment of fist-bumping for the Alliance, yet we've lost one main character (looks like Jania won't hate the Horde entirely, just Garrosh, thus basically neutral and leader of a neutral faction), confirmed loss of another (Khadger) and gained nothing in return.


AWWWWWWWWWWW NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THIS NEUTRAL S*** AGAIN?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM TIRED OF -NEUTRALITY-, PUNISH THEM ALL DAMN IT!
Opheliare
Bronzebeard
Opheliare
90 Blood Elf Death Knight
6505
Look out for Admiral Rodger's she's an awesome Alliance character.She comes from Southshore and she means to make the horde pay.
Yularu
Shadowsong
Yularu
56 Draenei Paladin
320
Edited by Yularu on 23/08/12 01:14 (BST)
I imagine that Rodger's will likely be used as an "example" of war is bad, and will probably be killed or punished. Hopefully not though, she definitely embodies Alliance pride and I'd gladly fight alongside her.

Jaina going full-neutral now is disappointing, the original soundclips of her rage against that orc captain were inspiring and showed her ready to fight back as an Alliance leader. I guess not, I wonder what Varian thinks of her new stance.
Morrigwen
Argent Dawn
Morrigwen
85 Worgen Druid
8260
23/08/2012 00:01Posted by Opheliare
Look out for Admiral Rodger's she's an awesome Alliance character.She comes from Southshore and she means to make the horde pay.


It's a step in the right direction, but at the end of the day she's only a minor NPC. Jania was the leading human figure on Kalimdor, an Alliance character with a highly developed background and probably one of our main faction leaders.. and she's off to join the neutral brigade with our other starring leaders like Malfurion, Khadger and Tirion.

This isn't meant to be QQ, but there comes a point where neutrality doesn't make sense. This is one of those times, and if the writers can't see that, then honestly, I wonder why I bother to read their lore.
Kaboomkin
Sylvanas
Kaboomkin
85 Night Elf Druid
1160
At the end we will all hug and cuddle with each other, and major charatcers will be neutral.

Oh, im so tired of it all...
Kurgul
Scarshield Legion
Kurgul
90 Orc Warrior
8520
Well, you could always take up writing fanfiction. In fact, I'm working on a piece right now that's trying to make the WoW lore seem less biased towards the Horde, but without making them a complete joke in terms of military strenght.

And now it seems that, among other major changes, I'll have to make Jaina more aggresive and less forgiving towards the Horde... and potentially start a civil war in Dalaran... on top of making Garrosh and Varian less stupid... and Tyrande more assertive... and Malfurion more conflicted and less revered... and Cenarius more unforgiving for the whole "axe-to-face" thing... and Thrall more disliked by the Horde for "co-operating with the enemy"...

I really have my job cut out for me, don't I? And to think, the whole project started as a Kael'thas/Vashj shipping fic...
Morrigwen
Argent Dawn
Morrigwen
85 Worgen Druid
8260
23/08/2012 21:35Posted by Kurgul
Well, you could always take up writing fanfiction.


Don'tcha think that says it all?

It's a depressing time when you finally acknowledge that your own writing may be more plausible than that of the creators.
Flamesinger
Quel'Thalas
Flamesinger
85 Draenei Mage
7960
Jaina...Neutral? Neutral? Am I reading this right? After everything...Neutral? Perhaps she is neutral for the Alliance, and not neutral for the Horde? That's still Neutral, isn't it? Or maybe it's just a farce so she can fly Dalaran into Orgrimmar or something....never would I have thought...

Neutral? Why Neutral, makes absoloutly no sense. If she is going Neutral, then she would be better off in Theramore, were she makes no difference whatsoever, but atleast is on the Alliance side....
Korae
Quel'Thalas
Korae
73 Blood Elf Warrior
1320
Jaina...Neutral? Neutral? Am I reading this right? After everything...Neutral? Perhaps she is neutral for the Alliance, and not neutral for the Horde? That's still Neutral, isn't it? Or maybe it's just a farce so she can fly Dalaran into Orgrimmar or something....never would I have thought...

Neutral? Why Neutral, makes absoloutly no sense. If she is going Neutral, then she would be better off in Theramore, were she makes no difference whatsoever, but atleast is on the Alliance side....


Remember, Metzen has promised that the Alliance will get fistpumping.

Obviously, the plan is for every single Alliance member to become neutral. Then, they can be allowed to join the horde.

Since they now in the "unquestionable" better faction, they can fistpump each other all round!
Susanpriest
Frostmane
Susanpriest
68 Gnome Priest
610
no surprise that Jaina turns neutral and forgives everyone with no reason too. It's par for the course really. Isn't Anduin meant to be neutral aswell now?
Narsila
Burning Legion
Narsila
90 Orc Warrior
8350
As always ;) World of Neturalcraft ;)
Morrigwen
Argent Dawn
Morrigwen
85 Worgen Druid
8260
25/08/2012 19:00Posted by Narsila
As always ;) World of Neturalcraft ;)


Who's next I wonder. Sylvanas? :p
Fairchild
Dentarg
Fairchild
90 Blood Elf Paladin
13735
Wrong.
Garrosh
Kirishammi
Quel'Thalas
Kirishammi
80 Orc Shaman
480
****more apparent spoilers****

Varian does not do anything and refuses to help jaina

Jaina tries to wipe out orgrimmar in one blow
Thrall fails to stop her
Kalec stops her
Kalec and Jaina kiss

****end spoilers****

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