Topic RBG setup for MoP
Milele
Burning Legion
Milele
90 Undead Priest
6410
Edited by Milele on 21/09/12 22:44 (BST)
So here it is. What's Your FOTM setup for RBGs?

My opinion is spell/dot cleave will reign, but what classes exactly?

I was Disci in RBGs and almost 2k (I know that not so much) for whole Cata so I start from healer choices. My choices are:

Holy Paladin - best healer for Cata, solid Tank healing, strong AoE healing, seems that nothing will change here
Resto Druid - big come back in MoP. Best AoE healer in game; buffed survivability in MoP. Absolutely my choice
Rest Shaman - Cata was a roller coaster for rshamans, but they always we're able to be at top RBG healing done. They were losing spot because HPalas were doing even better but with HC DoT Cleaves their abilities and passive healing proved to be better. They were losing spots to Disci because of only one spell - Mass Dispell that is on 15s cd in MoP - seems to long for Disci to be considered here so my last opt for healer is shaman.

Damage Dealers in MoP - we already know that some classes like Mages are beyond everything. Fire is absurd while Frost is not better. Everyone complains about Shadow Priests and additionally they have Mass Dispel which is supreme. Affi Locks and Boomkins have some synergy with Fire Mages and Shadow Priest and Destro Locks can burst people in two globals now. Frost DKs were best choice for target callers but were unneed while dotcleaves were superior but on the other hand the're AoE DPS class so they fits well in DoT cleave idea. Lastly Arms Warriors, Assa Rogues and BM Hunters are by far strong. IMO I can;t judge what setup will be best but choices should be take from this who I mention.

At the end there are two questions. How are Druid Tanks compared to Prot Wariors and the biggest one - how will Monks be.

Your thoughts?

P.S. Well, maybe I can't deny - dot cleave wont be supreme and burst setup with shadow, ele, arms, assassination, beast master and frost DK will be just best.
Moshe
Sylvanas
Moshe
90 Human Warrior
14355
FC:

Guardian druid

Healers:

Resto druid
Holy pala
Disc priest

DPS:

Frost mage
Fire mage
Shadow priest
Elemental shaman
Combat rogue
Frost DK

Can't go wrong with that
Ironcurtain
Argent Dawn
Ironcurtain
10 Blood Elf Warrior
20
Aha, exactly like I predicted..

Ret, Enhancement, Warrior and Feral are useless again, as is Melee Monk.

Well, here is some news for you.
Melee classes ALSO want to play RBGs. Why casters and dot classes should get EZ mode gear without competition?

Perhaps Blizz will change SOMETHING before it's not too late?
Xayc
Bloodhoof
Xayc
90 Undead Warlock
9760
Well as of looking in beta warriors and ferals are not useless...
Millskin
Stormscale
Millskin
90 Troll Mage
12450
Edited by Millskin on 22/09/12 10:22 (BST)
the level 10 has posted else where and is now on a mission to not test the game, just complain about it until hes proved wrong.
Ironcurtain
Argent Dawn
Ironcurtain
10 Blood Elf Warrior
20
"The level 10" remembers last season too well - the season that you, casters, completely ruined for me with your petty Dragon Soul PvE abuse and !@#$%^- dots.
Meldx
Outland
Meldx
90 Night Elf Priest
10445
Edited by Meldx on 22/09/12 10:39 (BST)
22/09/2012 10:25Posted by Ironcurtain
"The level 10" remembers last season too well - the season that you, casters, completely ruined for me with your petty Dragon Soul PvE abuse and !@#$%^- dots.


That's odd. I remember ferals in jungle cleave/rogue-feral-healer, DKs in PHD/Vanguards/Triple dps, rogues in rogue-x-x, warriors in WLS and KFC, rets in triple dps and Vanguards, enh in rshaman/enh/warlock.

All those at 2.2k-2.3k+ MMR mind you.
Millskin
Stormscale
Millskin
90 Troll Mage
12450
considering pvp power has been added so the fact of pve stuff shouldnt be a problem. so mr level 10 you should wait in the new commer forum until you can be big enough to post on a main. melee were raping arena till the end, i still personally think warrior mass spell reflection is going to be a must have.
Ironcurtain
Argent Dawn
Ironcurtain
10 Blood Elf Warrior
20
Edited by Ironcurtain on 22/09/12 10:54 (BST)
That's odd. I remember ferals in jungle cleave/rogue-feral-healer, DKs in PHD/Vanguards/Triple dps, rogues in rogue-x-x, warriors in WLS and KFC, rets in triple dps and Vanguards, enh in rshaman/enh/warlock.


I was speaking about RBGs. The topic is, in fact, about RBGs. Why are you speaking about Arena instead?

We all know that Warriors were taken ONLY as Prot FC to RBGs in 4.3
Millskin
Stormscale
Millskin
90 Troll Mage
12450
Edited by Millskin on 22/09/12 11:05 (BST)
your talking about RBGs yes RBGs in a ended season!!!!!! this is supposed to be a thread about rbg setup not a chance for you to log a lvl 10 and whine!
Ironcurtain
Argent Dawn
Ironcurtain
10 Blood Elf Warrior
20
Edited by Ironcurtain on 22/09/12 11:29 (BST)
Millskin, let's bet for 1k gold or whatever that RBGs will be again dominated by dot cleaves and wizard cleaves.

As things are now on Beta, I clearly see it coming.

P.S. Stop with that Stormscale nerdrage already; everyone knows about bad attitude and foul behavior of denizens of this realm.
Milele
Burning Legion
Milele
90 Undead Priest
6410
This topic is about MoP RBGs not Cata.

Healers:Resto druidHoly palaDisc priest

I can't imagine reason for taking Disc Priests for RBGs. No No!
Mcfiend
Outland
Mcfiend
90 Human Warlock
10765
Edited by Mcfiend on 22/09/12 11:34 (BST)
This topic is about MoP RBGs not Cata.

Healers:Resto druidHoly palaDisc priest

I can't imagine reason for taking Disc Priests for RBGs. No No!


Assuming that you're not sarcastic ;o mostly for MD.

It dispels all the de-buffs in the target area afaik.
Vixen
Sylvanas
Vixen
90 Blood Elf Paladin
10650
22/09/2012 11:30Posted by Mcfiend
mostly for MD.


It'll be damn well needed too :<
Millskin
Stormscale
Millskin
90 Troll Mage
12450
Edited by Millskin on 22/09/12 11:53 (BST)
iorn curtain you came here posting on a lvl 10 and now you make a char on my realm to hassle me lololol

Btw i had a bad attitude on jeadenar to just for a bit of info
Evex
Outland
Evex
90 Human Priest
7890
22/09/2012 11:27Posted by Ironcurtain
Stop with that Stormscale nerdrage already; everyone knows about bad attitude and foul behavior of denizens of this realm.

http://files.sharenator.com/hurr_durr_derp_face_im_a_hurr_affe-s500x375-155938.jpg
Zanodor
Stormscale
Zanodor
90 Orc Warrior
9305
prrr
Ðjvîrgïnåtør
Outland
Ðjvîrgïnåtør
90 Human Death Knight
7780
Ret, Enhancement, Warrior and Feral are useless again, as is Melee Monk.

Well, here is some news for you.
Melee classes ALSO want to play RBGs. Why casters and dot classes should get EZ mode gear without competition?

Perhaps Blizz will change SOMETHING before it's not too late?


There is no way to balance RBGs without dramatic changes to the game.

RBGs were introduced in the first place because the devs expected pvp on a larger scale than arena to be easier to balance because more classes would have a chance of participating and competition would become more diverse.

Obviously it didn't turn out like that. Class stacking is too effective and melee have a fundamental disadvantage without any real compensation.

Thankfully RBGs will stop awarding T2 next season, even though they'll still give faster access to gear. Although to be completely fair, RBGs and 5s should get the same treatment as 2s.
Crâwthz
Sylvanas
Crâwthz
90 Human Mage
9765
Aha, exactly like I predicted..

Ret, Enhancement, Warrior and Feral are useless again, as is Melee Monk.

Well, here is some news for you.
Melee classes ALSO want to play RBGs. Why casters and dot classes should get EZ mode gear without competition?

Perhaps Blizz will change SOMETHING before it's not too late?


Just something to think for you;
Take a field of war.
Would you take 6 guys with snipers and assault rifles
or
Would you take 6 swordsmen against said snipers and assault rifles?

When you come up with the answer, this is why you don't want any kind of melee in RBG grp. Only reason DK is worth taking to a RBG grp is because of Death Grip and Mass Grip.

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