Serious PvP quality of life issues in Mists of Pandaria

90 Undead Priest
8495
Hello,

I'm not going to address any balance issues, be it BM pets or atrocious Disc regen, but I'd like to mention some things that are far more irritating, and yet uncontroversial.

1. It seems that in MoP once you join an Arena game, you're in a new raid. This means raidmarks are removed, and the order of Compact raid frames is based on entrance order.

Previously raidmarks would stay if you queued as a marked raid.
Also the "player" unit was always at the bottom of the raid frame stack.

Having to put new marks every time is very irritating (even with macros, because the leader changes), and having the player raid frame in a random place may even cost you games - and is something you can't fix without code taint.

2. Another issue is that if someone uses macros that have a couple /cast lines (covers all 3 options from a tier for example), and then relearns inside arena, the macro will stop working (You'll get a message that you didn't learn the spell).

3. Sometimes when you respec you lose action bar abilities that are not in spellbook anymore, which means you need to make macros just to keep a single spell, so that it's never removed.

4. Now that a lot of classes have a vanish-like abilities on a short cooldown, it has become increasingly irritating to be forced to reapply focus to get the frame back. Maybe it would be good to change the mechanics so that it's still there, you just can't act on it for the duration of vanish/invis.

I realise those are UI issues, but they directly influence competitive PvP and I wish Blizzard would spend some time reviewing this. I'm sure I've missed a few other issues, but if only the first one was looked at, I'd already be content.
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90 Human Warrior
7190
idd, needs to be looked into
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90 Orc Shaman
5630
Good post
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90 Tauren Druid
11995
Yah the raid marks should deffo be fixed.
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90 Undead Priest
8495
Noone else wants this fixed?
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
10910
thumbs up!
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90 Human Paladin
13675
Definately approve, the focus frame being removed so frequently mid-match is getting old really quickly.

I see no reason why the target can't stay as your focus, you won't be able to hit them in stealth anyway.
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Great post.
Also reloadui often bugs action bars. abs addon helps but still annoying.
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90 Human Warlock
9090
+100000 to the raid marks and focus frame dropping all the damn time.
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90 Undead Mage
9935
25/10/2012 19:04Posted by Absô
4. Now that a lot of classes have a vanish-like abilities on a short cooldown, it has become increasingly irritating to be forced to reapply focus to get the frame back. Maybe it would be good to change the mechanics so that it's still there, you just can't act on it for the duration of vanish/invis.


god plz
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90 Night Elf Druid
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bump
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I don't think focus should stay when people stealth, but PLEASE fix the raid frames. We need to be able to mark before the games and have the right order of frames, it's confusing to see who's arena1 and arena2 when you're on top of the frames.
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90 Night Elf Priest
5735
good
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90 Undead Priest
8495
27/10/2012 13:11Posted by Qweek
I don't think focus should stay when people stealth, but PLEASE fix the raid frames. We need to be able to mark before the games and have the right order of frames, it's confusing to see who's arena1 and arena2 when you're on top of the frames.


I myself don't mind the focus thing, but then I'm a healer.

Marking and frame order is what gets me, especially when it was fine in previous expansions.
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90 Undead Mage
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27/10/2012 04:27Posted by Rivalry
+100000 to the raid marks and focus frame dropping all the damn time.
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90 Undead Priest
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1. Raid frames are bugged since Cata. Some folks have made macros so they don't have to type it every BG.
2. I don't know any such macro and I'm playing Priest like You. I don't know why You are using such - maybe for GCD like with PI, AA, PS and so.
3. There is something worse. Rogues lost their Shadowdance bar and have to macro all their abilities - from what I've heard. Even more sucky.
4. Reapplying focus is fine - it's meant to be like this and it should stay. Just macro arena123
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90 Undead Priest
8495
1. Raid frames are bugged since Cata. Some folks have made macros so they don't have to type it every BG.
2. I don't know any such macro and I'm playing Priest like You. I don't know why You are using such - maybe for GCD like with PI, AA, PS and so.
3. There is something worse. Rogues lost their Shadowdance bar and have to macro all their abilities - from what I've heard. Even more sucky.
4. Reapplying focus is fine - it's meant to be like this and it should stay. Just macro arena123


1. not true, in cata your frame was at the bottom and if you queued as a marked raid the marks would not be removed.
2. it's so I don't have to change the macro/spell if I respec in the same tier. A "all-in-one" tier macro
3. true
4. except in battlegrounds and such, where arena123 units do not exist
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90 Human Priest
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All the issues that Abso mentioned are incredibly annoying and really sound like an easy fix. The fact that a new raid is created in each arena is probably the result of Blizzard wanting an easy fix for some other issue that appeared in MoP - otherwise why would they tamper with a perfectly-functioning system? As for the focus, it has indeed become much more irritating, but at least it's the result of people using their skills - and not a deliberate downgrade.

I'm curious to see how soon Blizz will bother to fix these issues. The PvP community must be supportive because it must be quite hard for them with all their team focusing on the introduction of new Pokemons.
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90 Human Mage
5920
I think they broke the marks because the grouping system when in a LFR changed. Now there is an "instance group" and the regular group (if you queue LFD in a group). Probably the same got applied to arena, while obviously no-one wants this crap of not being able to mark people.

Also I agree on the sentiment that we should just have buttons for tier1 tier 2 etc. If the tier talent you choose has an on-use effect, the button would show that. This would fix the problem.

But I don't agree with 4. I don't want to decrease the number of keypresses required for arena. A stealthed target should be removed and has to be retargeted.
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90 Night Elf Priest
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27/10/2012 04:49Posted by Lordofmagic
4. Now that a lot of classes have a vanish-like abilities on a short cooldown, it has become increasingly irritating to be forced to reapply focus to get the frame back. Maybe it would be good to change the mechanics so that it's still there, you just can't act on it for the duration of vanish/invis.


god plz


Spectral Guise can no longer be usable while stunned on PTR.

/cheer
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