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15/11/2012 11:41Posted by Gadrielyeah that 40% damage reduction surely isnt a defensive mechanism, nor is hand of protection or bubble ofcourse
15/11/2012 11:44Posted by Jolehmake him roll a cute panda :)
A tip for you dude...
15/11/2012 13:57Posted by NakatoirI will edit my first post to specify Retribution Paladins for you. :)
15/11/2012 13:57Posted by NakatoirIt is also not entirely true that healing is the only defensive ability that you have
I was referring to Retribution Paladins in my post specifically and as they have the ability to assist their entire team with healing on-demand through the use of their abilities, they are able to off-heal. I will edit my first post to specify Retribution Paladins for you. :)
It is also not entirely true that healing is the only defensive ability that you have, Paladins also have as I am sure your aware, Divine Shield, Divine Protection, Hand of Protection, Lay on hands and also while weaker if this change occurs, heals. There are other abilities in the Pally arsenal that can be used defensively as well, so stating that heals is the only way a Paladin has to protect themselves and others is not entirely true. Do remember that you would still have your heals, while weaker they could still help in keeping both you and your team alive.
Understand that this is also not a definite change, it is simply something that we are considering to deal with the high healing numbers that are seen from some off-spec healers. We greatly welcome your feedback and thoughts on this, so please continue to provide it.
I hope this is just a bad joke. Divine Protection, 20% less damage on a 60sec cooldon can hardly be called a defensive mechanism. Divine shield is a good ability, but 5 min cooldown? c'mon. You can't use Lay on Hands in the arena, nor can you use Hand of protection if you used Divine Shield.I am not commenting on how great, useful or even terrible certain defensive abilities are, I am simply stating that there are additional defensive abilities available other than healing. Lay on Hands was more referring to the array of defensive abilities that are available, not that it is usable in arena specifically. I did also state that there are abilities that I have not yet mentioned, such as defensive CC as well as escape abilities that can help you get away, like Hand of Freedom and the first tier talent.
So basically you say that we have a nice array of defensive spells in the arena: 8 sec immunity on 5 min CD (instantly removable by Priests, Druids, Warriors), and 20% less damage on an 1 min CD. WoW. You are a PvP hero.
Woah ...wait, what? This is in what patch notes now?15/11/2012 14:21Posted by ThrasiusAnd we have 20-25k healings after the patch goes live.
Bottom line is: If Rets don't get anything cool in exchange for their weaker heals or a buff in general, who'll continue playing Ret? I won't, because I'm so sick of being outgunned by a Warrior in every single aspect.
15/11/2012 14:59Posted by NakatoirAs I already said, this is a change we are considering and is not in any way definite or final. So continue to give your feedback on off-spec healers and possible changes, we are listening to it :)
...wait, what? This is in what patch notes now?
As I already said, this is a change we are considering and is not in any way definite or final. So continue to give your feedback on off-spec healers and possible changes, we are listening to it :)
How about you man up?
I am sure I dont have to tell you... or, maybe I do, but a 5min Bubble and some Hand spells that generally serve as support spells, and mobility spells do not increase my chance to stay alive, or at least Freedom will not help me too much with this much CC going around. U know what helps me to stay alive after Bubble? Healing, and that generally does not always help as well since it is easy to counter. U know whats not easy to counter? a blink vanish, die by the sword, spell reflect, high mobility (Warrior style), last stand, the old SS we had in Cata.
I am amazed that you found Ret to be worthy of nerfing, plx do tell me, as I am sure u know, how many high rated teams (Over 2.4) have a Ret in them? Do you need me to tell you what ppl say when a Ret is looking for a RBG or Arena team? they dont care if ur r1 Glad, why in Gods name would they bring u? A Warrior can do 2 times your job, and if that fails, well, there is always a chance he will just have to global someone, but hey! nvm, lets nerf the Ret again.
I would love if you could possible tell me, what exactly did Ret get this expansion? I mean, we did not get any better at CC, our healing if anything is weaker and we lose more time healing since it does not crit on low hp so we cant spend more time doing dmg. We dont rly do any better burst then we use to, tho I am perfectly fine w/ that, and on top, our sustained dmg got weaker. Ohh right, im sorry, we generate HP faster, thank you very very much, that was very useful, especially since our heals are going to sux and TV hits like a little girl, so I am sure I will have a ton of use for the fast stacking HP.
p.s. Almost forgot, even tho ur not giving some realistic answers (I understand why), I do appreciate you answering some of my questions of late.
15/11/2012 15:21Posted by MythiqueDidnt see that much enhance in action in arena...
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