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Does anyone know when will be available recruit a friend in Romania ??

And what laws are you talking about. We are part of EU and as such any general Europe legislation is applicable also here, overriding any local one. And as far as Recruit a friend goes from what I see not even all EU countrys have it, so can we then ask to get lower monthly fee, as we do not benefit from the full service range!

25/11/2012 09:01Posted by Morrwin

any general Europe legislation is applicable also here, overriding any local one.

Source?

Here you go, depending on what issue they are having for not being able to turn on Recruit A Friend in some EU countries...
http://ec.europa.eu/legislation/index_en.htm
I doubt that the system can run in Germany but not in Romania under the same laws. Would like to at least benefit the same service for the same ammount or get a discount if we are considered as less then a customer, as it's not our fault.

25/11/2012 09:01Posted by Morrwin

And what laws are you talking about. We are part of EU and as such any general Europe legislation is applicable also here, overriding any local one. And as far as Recruit a friend goes from what I see not even all EU countrys have it, so can we then ask to get lower monthly fee, as we do not benefit from the full service range!

Somehow I think Blizzard's legal team, who will have members who actually study European and national laws and by-laws regarding services of this type will know a damn sight more about it than you do. And frankly I very much doubt Romania's by-laws against services that they personally classify as pyrmanid schemes, which otherwise don't exist in other countries such as UK and Germany, are regulated by EU legislation.

And you can smeg off if you're trying to wrangle your way to getting a cheaper membership cost out of it just because your country is the problem and not Blizzard.

It's the same thing with the Keygenerator, Blizzard was unable to send it in Romania, had to use my Grandmothers adress in Germany, and don't try to tell me that there are laws in Romania who prevent me getting mail from other countrys ... but getting my money over the last 8 years was never problem for Blizz ;)

Bulgaria is also not eligible for RAF and it's the other way arround. The related EU laws are there - they are just not applied to our countries, as we are the last to join the EU. I doubt Blizzard are just discriminating us - I think they, as any other multinational company in the world, has a very good legal team. Otherwise they will not be able to sustain their operations...

Here you go, depending on what issue they are having for not being able to turn on Recruit A Friend in some EU countries...
http://ec.europa.eu/legislation/index_en.htm
I doubt that the system can run in Germany but not in Romania under the same laws. Would like to at least benefit the same service for the same ammount or get a discount if we are considered as less then a customer, as it's not our fault.

That is not a link to a legislation that shows that member states must incorporate legislation that enables RAF-services in Europe.

So you're wrong.

source: www.google.com

Keygenerators are sold in local stores. How come not possible from Blizzard?

25/11/2012 11:13Posted by Steinhof

Keygenerators are sold in local stores. How come not possible from Blizzard?

They are?

Never seen them in any stores over here in the UK...

I've seen in stores in Romania, last month.

Here you go, depending on what issue they are having for not being able to turn on Recruit A Friend in some EU countries...
http://ec.europa.eu/legislation/index_en.htm
I doubt that the system can run in Germany but not in Romania under the same laws. Would like to at least benefit the same service for the same ammount or get a discount if we are considered as less then a customer, as it's not our fault.

That is not a link to a legislation that shows that member states must incorporate legislation that enables RAF-services in Europe.

So you're wrong.

source: www.google.com

Go troll somewhere else. If they can't because of legal reasons turn it on in some countrys why not state the exact reason so we as users can ask our ellected representative to put them in place.

But as far as I know there is no such thing, they just made the list, applied the terms and are midly happy about it. We pay the same ammount, romanian CC and payment method are accepted it seems, but the service we get is less then our european neighbours.

And I don't think it's the user's fault but as I requested before, if we knew exactlly what needed to be fixed, maybe we could get it.

Probably not an authorised sale from Blizzard directly to the store then.

Go troll somewhere else. If they can't because of legal reasons turn it on in some countrys why not state the exact reason so we as users can ask our ellected representative to put them in place.

If this is trolling, why is you doing the exact same thing, NOT trolling?

You said there's an EU law that allows RAF which overrides any local law, why not state the exact law so we as users can verify your evidence?

But as far as I know there is no such thing, they just made the list, applied the terms and are midly happy about it. We pay the same ammount, romanian CC and payment method are accepted it seems, but the service we get is less then our european neighbours.

And I don't think it's the user's fault but as I requested before, if we knew exactlly what needed to be fixed, maybe we could get it.

You don't need to know what needs to be fixed, but if you think you do, you can go hire your own legal counsel and have them figure it out for you, but you just need to tell your legislators that you want services such as Blizzard's Recruit-A-Friend legal.

That is not a link to a legislation that shows that member states must incorporate legislation that enables RAF-services in Europe.

So you're wrong.

source: www.google.com

Go troll somewhere else. If they can't because of legal reasons turn it on in some countrys why not state the exact reason so we as users can ask our ellected representative to put them in place.

But as far as I know there is no such thing, they just made the list, applied the terms and are midly happy about it. We pay the same ammount, romanian CC and payment method are accepted it seems, but the service we get is less then our european neighbours.

And I don't think it's the user's fault but as I requested before, if we knew exactlly what needed to be fixed, maybe we could get it.

They've stated this previously, just do a google search and you'll find it.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/927080432?page=2#25

25/11/2012 11:48Posted by Ivresse

Probably not an authorised sale from Blizzard directly to the store then.

Authenticators are a mess, there are a handful of reasons why it may not be possible to get from the Blizzard store:

1. Export legislation in France
2. Import legislation in the "destination country"
3. The company they use to ship out does not ship there.
4. The company does ship there, but Blizzard couldn't negotiate a shipping deal that allows them to negate shipping costs, and for technical reasons the only way to get normal shipping back is by adding another item.

Retail presents them with an opportunity to circumvent these restrictions, it may no longer be a trade between France and the destination country (which can trigger some laws regarding cryptographic devices) instead it will be a trade between a distributor that Blizzard can ship to, and that distributor is in a country that is not affected by those laws.

Basically the laws are a relic from World War 2 where it was usually considered illegal to import/export cryptographic devices from and to certain countries, and many of these laws are still in effect today.

Go troll somewhere else. If they can't because of legal reasons turn it on in some countrys why not state the exact reason so we as users can ask our ellected representative to put them in place.

If this is trolling, why is you doing the exact same thing, NOT trolling?

You said there's an EU law that allows RAF which overrides any local law, why not state the exact law so we as users can verify your evidence?

But as far as I know there is no such thing, they just made the list, applied the terms and are midly happy about it. We pay the same ammount, romanian CC and payment method are accepted it seems, but the service we get is less then our european neighbours.

And I don't think it's the user's fault but as I requested before, if we knew exactlly what needed to be fixed, maybe we could get it.

You don't need to know what needs to be fixed, but if you think you do, you can go hire your own legal counsel and have them figure it out for you, but you just need to tell your legislators that you want services such as Blizzard's Recruit-A-Friend legal.

The ignorance in you in strong. Yes I do need to know why I don't recive the same service for the same ammount when we are all european citizens. At least that's what I was raised to belive and enforced by European Customer Rights.

http://ec.europa.eu/publications/booklets/move/64/en.pdf

The ignorance in you in strong. Yes I do need to know why I don't recive the same service for the same ammount when we are all european citizens. At least that's what I was raised to belive.

Then ask a lawyer.

http://ec.europa.eu/publications/booklets/move/64/en.pdf

That's a booklet, not a law.

Also has nothing to do with the subject.