Topic The End of the World?
Currymuncher
The Maelstrom
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So that's like tommorow.. Or was it cancelled?
Harleybane
Laughing Skull
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it was actually the 16:e of may 1962. the mayans forgot to count with leap Years and therefor it should of been over 50 years ago
Steák
Khadgar
Steák
90 Tauren Druid
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Not the end, just the beginning of a new "age" according to the mayans
Alenya
Sunstrider
Alenya
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Come back tomorrow, it isn't weekend yet.
Malcovas
Nagrand
Malcovas
90 Human Warrior
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In many parts of the world it is already tomorrow
Jonní
Defias Brotherhood
Jonní
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20/12/2012 18:49Posted by Steák
Not the end, just the beginning of a new "age" according to the mayans


Pretty much this. Plus, is it the 21st in East Mexico tomorrow? Probably not, therefore it won't be tomorrow. Even if the Mayans did count leap years and have the same time and date recording methods as what we have today (they often recorded time by looking at the sky, rather than using sundials and the like. They'd often refer to midday as "time when sun is hottest", they were that primative a people in comparison to the Roman Empires and the like), the world would've ended today in the UK. Hasn't yet, and it would end later at some other place in the world, because of time differences.

It's just a silly prophecy that nobody has any clue what it's about. The meaning is uncertain, but it's factual that the world isn't to end unless it's, say, an alternate universe to this one. It's just a "new age" according to these people. Maybe they meant that disco was about to die, but in 1962, they're still a decade or two early.
Yeou
Grim Batol
Yeou
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20/12/2012 18:47Posted by Currymuncher
So that's like tommorow.. Or was it cancelled?


You made me say: he he he
Malcovas
Nagrand
Malcovas
90 Human Warrior
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I'm just wondering what the next doomsday prophecy is
Thalodorien
Argent Dawn
Thalodorien
90 Blood Elf Priest
8035
When did the Mayan Calender even say the world would end? Never, all it said was we'd enter a new age.
Shadowsóng
Sporeggar
Shadowsóng
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20/12/2012 19:05Posted by Malcovas
I'm just wondering what the next doomsday prophecy is

2063 or something.
Keshayra
Kul Tiras
Keshayra
90 Night Elf Hunter
11705
Maybe tomorrow Stormwind, Orgrimmar and every other city in the game get visited by Deathwing as a ghost and he sets all of them on fire for an hour or so... who knows. :D
Zainstorm
Nagrand
Zainstorm
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Edited by Zainstorm on 20/12/12 20:40 (GMT)
First of all this belongs in off topic

20/12/2012 19:02Posted by Jonní
Even if the Mayans did count leap years and have the same time and date recording methods as what we have today (they often recorded time by looking at the sky,


NO NO NO NO NO! The Mayans did not use any sort of celestial events (earth going around sun, moon going around earth) to count the days!

They counted days the same way they counted numbers (Base 20 / Base 18), and decided that form of counting by the amount of toes and fingers they have:
(Source http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zBqRLK_ESs)

Tomorrow will be the start of the 14'th b'ak'tun. When the 14'th b'ak'tun hits the Mayan counting system starts over to the next cycle
(a bit like how instead b'ak'tun's we have centuries and millennium's for cycles. But their B'ak'tun's and cycles are a LOT LONGER, due to there use of the Base 20 / Base 18 counting system, rather then our base 10 counting system)
(Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_Long_Count_calendar)

In addition there is nothing to suggest the world will end at the start of the next cycle tomorrow (except that at the start of the cycle we are on now the world was made according to Mayan religion*). And there is in fact Mayan runes predicting beyond the year 2012, meaning the Mayans did not see tomorrow as the end, but simply the start of a new cycle (like how we saw the year 2000 as a new millennium)
(Source 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_Long_Count_calendar#2012_and_the_Long_Count)
(Source 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY_Gc1bF8ds)

Also there is no celestial threats that could destroy the world tomorrow. Meaning asteroids, planet collisions and solar flares are taken out of the equation.
(Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY_Gc1bF8ds)

So no, no end of the world tomorrow.

* Also religion world ending are always wrong, look how many fails there have been so far:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events
Zainstorm
Nagrand
Zainstorm
90 Dwarf Hunter
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20/12/2012 20:27Posted by Shadowsóng
2063 or something.


F. Kenton Beshore (A religious doomsayer) predicts the end of the world as early as 2018. meaning that would be the next end of the world prediction.
Zanzir
The Maelstrom
Zanzir
90 Troll Shaman
3485
But I haz dailys to do!
Joker
Defias Brotherhood
Joker
90 Human Mage
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http://www.terriblefate.com/
Valdanyr
Argent Dawn
Valdanyr
90 Blood Elf Mage
7690
Like Blizzard's game-released, the data has been pushed back a bit. It's now the 31st of December, 3013.
Guywitaxe
Laughing Skull
Guywitaxe
90 Orc Death Knight
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20/12/2012 18:49Posted by Harleybane
it was actually the 16:e of may 1962. the mayans forgot to count with leap Years and therefor it should of been over 50 years ago


Hey Harley ;D
Verina
Moonglade
Verina
90 Night Elf Rogue
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Edited by Veryna on 20/12/12 20:52 (GMT)
So...



NO NO NO NO NO! The Mayans did not use any sort of celestial events (earth going around sun, moon going around earth) to count the days!


99.99% correct....

The Mayans actually had three calendars, the first of which *is* based solely on observations of an annual Solar cycle. However, this Haab Calendar (the, so called Civil Calendar) was secondary to both the Tzolkin (Calendar of Relgious Observations) and the Baktun (Long Count) calendar, which is really the one causing all the fuss.

We're coming to the end of one of the 144,000 day Baktuns. The concept of leap-years is irrelevant to this calendar system, because it's not based on solar years, simply on pure math. I've got no opinion of whether the calculated date of Dec 12, 2012 as the end of the cycle is accurate. But if it is inaccurate, it's for reasons that have nothing to do with leap years.

tl;dr WoW dailies stave off the end of the World..... :)
Izzyfurious
Terokkar
Izzyfurious
90 Night Elf Death Knight
10385
Already had one thread, and ofc you had to make another.

WORLD WILL NOT END TOMORROW!

It will just be another normal day in your life.

End of.
Zainstorm
Nagrand
Zainstorm
90 Dwarf Hunter
16880
20/12/2012 20:50Posted by Veryna
The Mayans actually had three calendars, the first of which *is* based solely on observations of an annual Solar cycle. However, this Haab Calendar (the, so called Civil Calendar) was secondary to both the Tzolkin (Calendar of Relgious Observations) and the Baktun (Long Count) calendar, which is really the one causing all the fuss.


Interesting... Thank you for that piece of trivia. Seems the confusion between the 3 calenders is causing all the leap year confusion.

I would also like to point out that the concept of the world changes over time. For example in 1000 we Europeans thought that the world was only Europe, north Africa and parts of Asia.

So the Mayans (not having discovered much of the world at all when they made the calender) must have had the concept of the world being central America. Meaning it is highly possible that if they did predict the end, only central America will fall under the apocalypse.

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