gz method!!

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gz on world first 25, lets hope ra-den goes well :))) so boss!
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90 Pandaren Mage
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The ideal scenario for Blizz is Ra-Den dieing at roughly the same time for both Method and Paragon, that would prove the 10/25 balance is pretty good for this patch :{}
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90 Night Elf Warrior
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The ideal scenario for Blizz is Ra-Den dieing at roughly the same time for both Method and Paragon, that would prove the 10/25 balance is pretty good for this patch :{}


While i agree over what would be "ideal" for Blizzard (and in this case to most). But a kill of Ra Den in a similar timeframe for a 10 man and a 25 man wont prove a thing about the tier's balance. Only about the encounter's balance.

Tier's balance is here:

http://www.guildox.com/wow/guild/eu/Lightning%27s+Blade/DREAM+Paragon

and here:

http://www.guildox.com/wow/guild/eu/Twisting+Nether/Method

If you see the time frame that the kills happened for each of the two, very close in skill guilds, you will realize (once more) that although the devs are pursuing balance, it is not possible to be achieved.

The most striking examble (but not the only one, there were fights that took more to Paragon to defeat), is ofc the heroic Two Consorts 10 and 25.
It took Paragon 4 hours to defeat it and Method 2 days and 20 hours to defeat it.

Those two formats are DIFFERENT.
It is about time to stop attempting to look for a "race for world first" with both sizes included.
There is no such a thing because the teams from the two sizes are running in a different track.

Gz Paragon for World (west) first 10 man kill

Gz Method for World (west) first 25 man kill.
Edited by Lorac on 28/03/2013 13:42 GMT
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90 Blood Elf Death Knight
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Gz indeed. Although I will give them a few minus points for inserting black boxes into their screenshot (to hide the corpses?) instead of trying to find a better angle.
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90 Orc Shaman
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28/03/2013 13:40Posted by Lorac
The ideal scenario for Blizz is Ra-Den dieing at roughly the same time for both Method and Paragon, that would prove the 10/25 balance is pretty good for this patch :{}


While i agree over what would be "ideal" for Blizzard (and in this case to most). But a kill of Ra Den in a similar timeframe for a 10 man and a 25 man wont prove a thing about the tier's balance. Only about the encounter's balance.

Tier's balance is here:

http://www.guildox.com/wow/guild/eu/Lightning%27s+Blade/DREAM+Paragon

and here:

http://www.guildox.com/wow/guild/eu/Twisting+Nether/Method

If you see the time frame that the kills happened for each of the two, very close in skill guilds, you will realize (once more) that although the devs are pursuing balance, it is not possible to be achieved.

The most striking examble (but not the only one, there were fights that took more to Paragon to defeat), is ofc the heroic Two Consorts 10 and 25.
It took Paragon 4 hours to defeat it and Method 2 days and 20 hours to defeat it.

Those two formats are DIFFERENT.
It is about time to stop attempting to look for a "race for world first" with both sizes included.
There is no such a thing because the teams from the two sizes are running in a different track.

Gz Paragon for World (west) first 10 man kill

Gz Method for World (west) first 25 man kill.


Hello captain grumpy, back to create chaos again I see?
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90 Tauren Warrior
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28/03/2013 17:19Posted by Razecôg


While i agree over what would be "ideal" for Blizzard (and in this case to most). But a kill of Ra Den in a similar timeframe for a 10 man and a 25 man wont prove a thing about the tier's balance. Only about the encounter's balance.

Tier's balance is here:

http://www.guildox.com/wow/guild/eu/Lightning%27s+Blade/DREAM+Paragon

and here:

http://www.guildox.com/wow/guild/eu/Twisting+Nether/Method

If you see the time frame that the kills happened for each of the two, very close in skill guilds, you will realize (once more) that although the devs are pursuing balance, it is not possible to be achieved.

The most striking examble (but not the only one, there were fights that took more to Paragon to defeat), is ofc the heroic Two Consorts 10 and 25.
It took Paragon 4 hours to defeat it and Method 2 days and 20 hours to defeat it.

Those two formats are DIFFERENT.
It is about time to stop attempting to look for a "race for world first" with both sizes included.
There is no such a thing because the teams from the two sizes are running in a different track.

Gz Paragon for World (west) first 10 man kill

Gz Method for World (west) first 25 man kill.


Hello captain grumpy, back to create chaos again I see?


He's 100% right though, it's two different races.
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90 Night Elf Druid
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The most striking examble (but not the only one, there were fights that took more to Paragon to defeat), is ofc the heroic Two Consorts 10 and 25.
It took Paragon 4 hours to defeat it and Method 2 days and 20 hours to defeat it.


Not disputing your point, I actually agree that 10 and 25 are different. But that particular example is a bit flawed because the Twin Consorts encounter was mistakenly overtuned, not more difficult in terms of balance. Several 25 man guilds were stuck on it, then rolled over it the moment it got hotfixed.
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
18090
28/03/2013 18:38Posted by Nyran
Twin Consorts encounter was mistakenly overtuned,


Nope, they were fine in 25. Its just that their 10 man version was faceroll which would of been a problem for Blizzard as time went by.
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90 Night Elf Druid
13290
28/03/2013 20:36Posted by Aladya
Twin Consorts encounter was mistakenly overtuned,


Nope, they were fine in 25. Its just that their 10 man version was faceroll which would of been a problem for Blizzard as time went by.


Mistakenly undertuned then? Thanks for clearing that up.
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90 Blood Elf Death Knight
12310
Grats Method :)
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90 Blood Elf Warrior
10190
LOL lvl 1 alt from method comes and makes a congrats thread after being beaten by paragon.

Get lost buddy.

28/03/2013 20:36Posted by Aladya
Twin Consorts encounter was mistakenly overtuned,


Nope, they were fine in 25. Its just that their 10 man version was faceroll which would of been a problem for Blizzard as time went by.


Still mad you're always 2nd place? Np.
Edited by Zautzotwo on 29/03/2013 06:37 GMT
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90 Orc Death Knight
10515
The ideal scenario for Blizz is Ra-Den dieing at roughly the same time for both Method and Paragon, that would prove the 10/25 balance is pretty good for this patch :{}


Would be ideal if other guilds killed LK25 hc with 5% buff too.

Too bad they didn't.
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90 Blood Elf Death Knight
3605
Still mad you're always 2nd place? Np.


Only a fool will measure 10 mand and 25 man race the same. They are not same just because the bosses have same names.
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