Remove LFR permanently

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90 Draenei Paladin
8455
Greetings, first of all, srry for my bad english and grammar.

The reason for writing this post is because that i begging you, on my bare knees, to please remove the LFR feature. The reasons why is because i dont think that ANYONE finds any kind of joy in doing LFR.

People in LFR is refusing to learn tactics, wich leads to that they keep on dying or destroying other peoples chances of actually pulling it through with a boss. People are extremly inpatient, since they think that a LFR HAS to be done as quick as possible, wich is impossible and it simply destroys the chances for people, once again, becuase they instantly pulls the boss in order to complete it quickly. But in 90% of those times they pull the boss, atleast 5 people dies from it and tanks are not prepared ANYWHERE on this, wich leads to that everyone eventually wipes and its there the worst part of LFR comes in.

I dont know what kind of manors people have been growing up with, but when people seriously start to call people horrible things such as C#NT, WH##E or even the words name, the N word, a little piece of my dies and my faith in humanity fades away. Is this really what you want? do you really want to sit in a group with 24 people calling you horrible things, threatening to kill youre family or even start discriminating you for being black / white or belong to a certain religion?

Second thing is also that people doesnt even care about the tactics on bosses aswell. Even tho someone is being a angel and wants to help people to learn by telling the tactics, in detail. Still people is refusing to learn OR read the Dungeon Journal and jumps straight in and destroys EVERYTHING for EVERYONE.

Third thing, Everytime i say "Why cant blizzard remove LFR?" I always get the same response. "Then dont do LFR?". The problem with that is that LFR has become something that is not even optional anymore, its something you are FORCED into doing. The reasons for that is these:
1: we have to do LFR to get gear so we can join raid guilds (yes, i know timeless isle exists but some guilds doesnt count the gear from the island, as proper raid gear, strange enough)
2: We have to do LFR in order to get better gear for our own Guild raids, to increase our performance in order to get the gear from the Normal / Flex versions of the raid.
3: We have to do LFR for the Legendary quest
4: Most guilds have it as a requirement, that everyone does LFR in order to see the boss-fights, wich i simply refuse doing since i prefer to do it the old fashion way, reading tacts on the internet or watch a guide on youtube made by a famous guild such as Icy Veins or Method and so on.

As i recall it, you implemented the LFR in order to give Casual players a chance to experience the "epic" raids. I want to get one thing straight here.
There has NEVER been such thing, as a CASUAL RAIDING guild. If you gonna raid, you have to put down 110% on it. If you dont have time to raid, then im sorry, but i have to say sucks to be you.

All i want is that you remove this LFR nonsense. Im completely fine with Pug Raids, since if somone refuses to learn or screws things up, you can simply jsut replace them. Not in LFR, there you have to get like 5 votes (correct me if im wrong) in order to kick someone. Im completely fine with normal 10 and 25 man raids, im fine with the flex raid feature. But LFR is destroying the whole concept of Raiding itself.

If you really want to save WoW and perhaps get people back, you should focus ALOT more on the serious raiders, the seroius PVP / Arena players and the RP community.

I know that Blizzard will most likely ignore this post completely, but if someone agrees with this post or disagree, try to keep it on a mature level and write why. Youre voice is just as important as mine.

From // a devoted Vanilla Veteran Raider
100 Troll Druid
13700
zomg. where's the tl;dr?
90 Troll Mage
5485
Can please a devoted vanila raider focus on his own activities rather than other ppl activities?
90 Orc Shaman
6630
How about this. Make it so you dont have to require !@#$ing Raid finder to be able to raid nowadays. The Raid finder is a horrible tool and neither one of you seem to have the brain capacity to understand the text. Also for those who whine that Raid finder is for casual raiding i just have this to say. You either raid to 110% or you dont raid at all. Remove the bull%^-* casual scumminess from the game.
100 Troll Druid
13700
Ok so I read the post, and your logic (unless I completely misunderstood) is pretty awesome..

1) Remove LFR because the people that do them are horrible human beings
2) Remove LFR because you're forced to do them for gear/legendary
3) You're cool with PUGs for flex and what-not and that's what you want to do

Am I missing something completely here.. or why the hell don't you just ignore LFR then (just pretend it doesn't exist!) and join flex PUGs? There are plenty of them out there.

Your argument is weak.
90 Draenei Paladin
8455
In order to even join Flex Pug raids, you still need LFR gear for it aswell, since people only wants members with good iLvL. So you are still forced into doing LFR.
90 Orc Shaman
6630
because you are requiered to do Raid finder now adays. Its a must for anyone that even wants a chance at doing any sort of raiding because the normal dungeon gear isnt up to code anymore and the whole system revolves around gear to be able to dps or tank now and not individual skill. How about you learn some logic and come back after you have grasped the basics of english just enough so you can understand what he is talking about.
100 Troll Druid
13700
No, you don't have to do LFR at all. I've geared up an alt very recently without any raid finder what so ever. He's ready for SoO normal raiding by miles.

Here's how:

Older content is still there! There are plenty of people that are willing to go do older raids for gearing up. Not only will you most likely have a very nice time, meeting new friends, but also you'll get that shiny shiny loot you're after. As you progress, you'll eventually end up with ilvl more than enough to join a SoO flex.

Stop pretending that LFR is the only viable option. It's not. And it's by far not the most efficient either.
90 Human Warlock
6220
25/10/2013 12:39Posted by Trignak
because you are requiered to do Raid finder now adays. Its a must for anyone that even wants a chance at doing any sort of raiding because the normal dungeon gear isnt up to code anymore and the whole system revolves around gear to be able to dps or tank now and not individual skill. How about you learn some logic and come back after you have grasped the basics of english just enough so you can understand what he is talking about.

It is not required.... lets say you just dinged 90.
You start by going timeless island + world bosses using your coin rolls (wich are easy to get now)
With a timeless island set and maby 1-2 drops from there you good enough to do normal ToT (wich has been nerfed by 20% and has increased bonus roll win change) also crafted 522 boots/head are really cheap now this should get you high enough for flex SoO

In order to even join Flex Pug raids, you still need LFR gear for it aswell, since people only wants members with good iLvL. So you are still forced into doing LFR.

Make your own group then if you planing on running normals/flex/hc if you not got time to make a group then you whoudl also not have to time to join groups/guild for it.
90 Human Warlock
6220
1: we have to do LFR to get gear so we can join raid guilds (yes, i know timeless isle exists but some guilds doesnt count the gear from the island, as proper raid gear, strange enough)
2: We have to do LFR in order to get better gear for our own Guild raids, to increase our performance in order to get the gear from the Normal / Flex versions of the raid.
3: We have to do LFR for the Legendary quest
4: Most guilds have it as a requirement, that everyone does LFR in order to see the boss-fights, wich i simply refuse doing since i prefer to do it the old fashion way, reading tacts on the internet or watch a guide on youtube made by a famous guild such as Icy Veins or Method and so on.

1. no you dont have to see where i explained it above.
2. no you dont have to you want to and for flex lfr is really not needed.
3. no you dont you can only get the q items once a week regardles of difficulty so you better of running normals of msv/hof/toes/tot to get them you might even pick some up some upgrades esp with the increased coin roll win chance and the ease you can get mugo coins and elder charms.
4. i never seen a guilds having it as requirment in their recruitment that just a load of bull

But basicly you claming you have to do lfr else you unable to gear get your legendary or join a guild and then ask for it to be removed contradicting much?

As i recall it, you implemented the LFR in order to give Casual players a chance to experience the "epic" raids. I want to get one thing straight here.
There has NEVER been such thing, as a CASUAL RAIDING guild. If you gonna raid, you have to put down 110% on it. If you dont have time to raid, then im sorry, but i have to say sucks to be you.

Then you recall it wrong it was never ever to JUST see content go google raidfinder Q&A and what a load of bull there is no casual raiding yes there is and you dont have to give 100% to clear flex or normal.
Dont like lfr dont do it it not needed but pls stop asking content removed from other you NOT EVEN HAVE TO DO it sad and disgustingly selfish.
Edited by Nemesis on 25/10/2013 13:04 BST
90 Worgen Druid
11100
In order to even join Flex Pug raids, you still need LFR gear for it aswell, since people only wants members with good iLvL. So you are still forced into doing LFR.


Or you could, you know, make your own pug?


4: Most guilds have it as a requirement, that everyone does LFR in order to see the boss-fights


I've never seen that nor does it make any sense whatsoever
Edited by Arlyna on 25/10/2013 13:05 BST
90 Human Warlock
6220
25/10/2013 12:34Posted by Trignak
How about this. Make it so you dont have to require !@#$ing Raid finder to be able to raid nowadays. The Raid finder is a horrible tool and neither one of you seem to have the brain capacity to understand the text. Also for those who whine that Raid finder is for casual raiding i just have this to say. You either raid to 110% or you dont raid at all. Remove the bull%^-* casual scumminess from the game.

How about you get rid of your 20% + hit first then start complain about casual players?
35 Dwarf Paladin
360
Why remove something that the vast majority of players use?

If anything Blizzard should remove organized raiding.
91 Blood Elf Hunter
13770
In order to even join Flex Pug raids, you still need LFR gear for it aswell, since people only wants members with good iLvL. So you are still forced into doing LFR.


make your own group all problem solved. all peopel who complain about how they cant join a group for flex are jsut lazy scrubs who wants to be carried - make your own group with your own itlv restrictions. or stick to lfr which is a mode for people who want quick automated fun.
90 Human Priest
7410
Why remove something that the vast majority of players use?

If anything Blizzard should remove organized raiding.


are you a lobotomized monkey?
100 Draenei Death Knight
7705
are you a lobotomized monkey?
When talking to the mirror, you don't really need to express the extent of your brain damage onto on on-line forum.
91 Blood Elf Death Knight
3530
25/10/2013 13:42Posted by Thérión
are you a lobotomized monkey?
When talking to the mirror, you don't really need to express the extent of your brain damage onto on on-line forum.


But his question was IMO justified.
100 Worgen Warlock
14850
Could just remove all gear drops from LFR. Leave it for people who want to see the content for the content as LFR's original goal was?
100 Blood Elf Paladin
15915
You win the prize for using the most words to say nothing.
90 Human Warlock
6220
25/10/2013 14:16Posted by Sherloki
Could just remove all gear drops from LFR. Leave it for people who want to see the content for the content as LFR's original goal was?

Really stop pulling nonsence out of your behind it was never ever meant for just to see content go google Raidfinder Q&A and take the link to Us forum.....
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