Racials Next Expansion

90 Pandaren Hunter
9140
I'd just want to see racials turned into cosmetic ones.


which is pretty much what they said at blizzcon

they do not want players picking a class for a dps buff, racials will be utility in nature like goblin rocket boots
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90 Human Paladin
15700
i just want to keep my diplomacy racial buff thank you very mutch
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90 Dwarf Shaman
10205
I pick race exclusively for the looks. I also think that playing a toon I like, increases my performance overall in ways that cannot be quantified in numbers. I like it, I play better.

My strictly empirical results with a worgen warlock actually seem to support this. Now the worgen is a human and my dps has gone up.

Sidenote: they said they're going to change the racials to be in like with worgen and goblins. Watch the forums be flooded by People Against Omogenization.
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90 Gnome Warlock
8265
I pick race exclusively for the looks

and that's how it should be!

but the thing is, "every man for himself" allows you to us two damage trinkets (proc and on-use) which is a huge advantage in pvp and which is why most people choose human. and this leads also to homogeneity in battlegrounds in case of humans vs the rest.
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90 Troll Hunter
11370

How many picks a specific race due to a racial skill?

*honestly curious*

Alot of people.And not only they pick a race bacause of the racial , but they also pick a faction because of it.
I am talking about Every Man For Himself ofc.Its insanely op for PvP for most classes. I know alot of people who play human just because of it.Hell , I know alot of people who play Alliance because of it.

If you want to play serious PvP you just have to be Human.Unless you are Druid or Shaman , they are the only classes who can chose the race and/or faction they like.Its sad really.

And this is bad for the PvE humans themselves , they have the very best racial for PvP , but also the worst for PvE.I really cant understand why Blizzard are tolerating this madness that EMFH is.
Edited by Kashon on 13/11/2013 22:04 GMT
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There aren’t plans for any broad, sweeping changes to racial abilities in 6.0. We’ll probably tune some numbers so some racials feel less mandatory in certain cases. Also, due to the changes we announced at BlizzCon, there are several hit and expertise-based racials that will need to be replaced with something new—hopefully we can use those new racials to help shore up racial balance overall :)
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90 Worgen Druid
10550
14/11/2013 13:35Posted by Takralus
There aren’t plans for any broad, sweeping changes to racial abilities in 6.0. We’ll probably tune some numbers so some racials feel less mandatory in certain cases. Also, due to the changes we announced at BlizzCon, there are several hit and expertise-based racials that will need to be replaced with something new—hopefully we can use those new racials to help shore up racial balance overall :)


I really hope this will stop the trend we have seen in recent years where most Hardcore guilds are going Horde, as Horde have the best PVE racials overall for the sake of min/maxing.

Similarly, I hope this'll stop us from seeing battlegrounds and arenas mostly comprised of humans.

Variation is nice.
Edited by Danellos on 14/11/2013 13:39 GMT
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90 Troll Mage
17140
I'd love to try something else than troll..
But at the moment, troll has this edge in DPS that im forced to play it, we all want the best of the best..
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90 Worgen Druid
10550
I'd love to try something else than troll..
But at the moment, troll has this edge in DPS that im forced to play it, we all want the best of the best..


As a feral druid, I am extremely envious of the troll racial. I am missing out on quite a bit of DPS because of this.

Yeah, for sure worgen are better off than night elves as far as the Alliance is concerned, but trolls are far superior by comparison.
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90 Troll Shaman
13255
I just want to keep berserker.
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90 Worgen Druid
10550
14/11/2013 13:43Posted by Zakkaru
I just want to keep berserker.


Of course you'd want to keep it. Had I been in your shoes, I'd feel the same way. And I am sure that there are various others out there who are fearing their favourite racial being removed from the game.

But, do you really think such racial are actually good for the game? Do you really think it is fair to see people choosing a race for their racial instead of their cosmetics?

I don't think so, personally. And besides, Blizzard themselves have said in the past that if they knew what implications racials would have had, they'd not have been implemented in the first place.
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90 Blood Elf Rogue
16100
Please just get rid of racials, instead of wasting time on coming up with replacements for hit/expertise racials and trying to balance the two factions. You will never be able to truly attain balance and there will always be one best racial.

Racials only add trouble to the game. They also add another button to press and since you guys wanna cut down on abilities how about you start with racials. Keep racials in the game like the Goblin bank ones and try to create such racials, delete all which have impact on combat.

If controversial changes like Mythic raiding and no flying until 6.1 can be made, then surely racials can finally get deleted as well.
Edited by Lesane on 14/11/2013 13:59 GMT
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90 Human Priest
14605
i hope racials will stay where they are now.


NOT Possible. With hit and exp gone ,Draenei,human ,Dwarf, goblin,Orc Racials have to be redesigned to compesate for the loss.
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90 Troll Shaman
13255
Dan I suppose you don't remember situation trolls were in back in Vanilla. Berserker was only activating when thier health dropped to 30%.

What else they had? Bow specialisation and throwing weapon.
Throwing weapons were useless, and bow fits only hunter. Unless you plan to shot arrows as warrior >.>

Voodoo shuffle, kinda okayish

and regeneration which is unnoticeable.

I like berserker becuase it's very handy now, I don't care for others in this case I admit. It's the only decent racial we really have. Not to mention it's iconic feature of this race.
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90 Dwarf Death Knight
10855
14/11/2013 14:00Posted by Besprie
i hope racials will stay where they are now.


NOT Possible. With hit and exp gone ,Draenei,human ,Dwarf, goblin,Orc Racials have to be redesigned to compesate for the loss.


You forgot the mighty gnomes
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90 Troll Druid
15550
There aren’t plans for any broad, sweeping changes to racial abilities in 6.0. We’ll probably tune some numbers so some racials feel less mandatory in certain cases. Also, due to the changes we announced at BlizzCon, there are several hit and expertise-based racials that will need to be replaced with something new—hopefully we can use those new racials to help shore up racial balance overall :)


Why aren't there any plans to finally solve this issue?

Racials should become purely cosmetic and fun, adding flavour. They shouldn't be game changing and they shouldn't impact PVE or PVP in any major way.

This way, we could all play races that we actually like instead of feeling forced to play a particular race just because it offers a PVE/PVP advantage (even if you tune the numbers down, the advantage of race A over race B will still be there).

(Why do you think my character is a troll?)
Edited by Zulafar on 14/11/2013 14:07 GMT
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90 Undead Rogue
16000
Remove them all and replace them with a cosmetic non-combat ability for each race. Such as running wild, cannibalize, wisp spirit, rocket jump and other for the rest.
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90 Troll Druid
15550
Remove them all and replace them with a cosmetic non-combat ability for each race. Such as running wild, cannibalize, wisp spirit, rocket jump and other for the rest.


Yes, that is exactly what should be happening in WoD.
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90 Human Paladin
8825
If OP had it his way, Horde would consist of 90% Blood Elves.

Racials is the main factor that keeps the race populations varied.
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90 Blood Elf Hunter
14585
There aren’t plans for any broad, sweeping changes to racial abilities in 6.0. We’ll probably tune some numbers so some racials feel less mandatory in certain cases. Also, due to the changes we announced at BlizzCon, there are several hit and expertise-based racials that will need to be replaced with something new—hopefully we can use those new racials to help shore up racial balance overall :)
I'll really hope.
For example with my main rogue.Undead
As i we go for 1st patch 2nd patch 3rd patch the only + ability of increase dps is **Touch of the grave**.
1st patch was ~1% seeying the logs.
2nd patch was ~0.5% or 0.6% seying the logs
Right now? as you may see my log's is 0.3%.. So in terms the value has been decreased by a lot.
Another thing is that i can switch to troll ~ this is and estimated ~3% dps gain and mostly if you put Berz with cd's.
So likely with the patch ....getting better gear simply gear/racial has become an amazing increase tool.~
(I have switched 2 x time's and both time's switched again to ~undead beeing more confortable as couldn't play anything else )

Hope to see some change's....
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