[MoP 5.0] Discussion sur le Démoniste à MoP

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Démoniste Orc niv. 85
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L2R
Démoniste Gnome niv. 85
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décu qu'ils n'aient pas fait de la spé demono une spé tank a aprt entiere mais bon :)


faudra voir comment marche la demonic fury et sa generation pour voir comment ca se prend en main tout ca

quant au pvp, nos sorts ne ralentissent pas automatiquement, on a pas de tp qui break les stun, pas de nova

des lors on est condamnés a rester des !@#$%^- de poteau qui tankent les cacs au lieu de les kite
on est en caster, mais en pvp, on a tout sauf un gameplay caster, et ca ne changera pas
Démoniste Orc niv. 85
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C'est pour ça que le demonic leap de MoP est insupportable, entre autres.
Démoniste Gobelin niv. 85
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MàJ de l'arbre de talent MoP.

Warlock (Forums / Talent Calculator / Skills/Talents)
Talents
Harvest Life - Now drains the life from all enemies within 15 yards of the target, causing 107 Shadow damage and restoring 4% of the caster's total health every 1 sec. Lasts 6 sec. Replaces Drain Life. Does not hit polymorphed targets.
Mortal Coil - Now causes the enemy target to run in horror for 3 sec. The caster restores 25% of their maximum health if the target is horrified.
Sacrificial Pact - Your demon now sacrifices half its current health to shield its master for 300% of the sacrificed health. Lasts 20 sec. (1 min cooldown)
Dark Bargain - Now prevents all damage for 10 sec. When the shield fades, 50% of the damage prevented is dealt over 20 sec. (3 min cooldown)
*NEW* Blood Fear - Instantly strikes fear in the enemy, causing it to run in fear for up to 20 sec. Damage caused may interrupt the effect. 30 yd range, Instant cast, Costs 10% of maximum health. Replaces Fear.
*NEW* Burning Rush - Drains 5% of your maximum health per second to increase your movement speed by 50%. Lasts until cancelled. (Instant cast)
Spell Drain - Now replaced with Unbound Will.
*NEW* Unbound Will - Purges all stuns, disorients, roots and Magic effects from the Warlock. Costs 25% of the Warlock's maximum health. (20 sec cooldown, Instant cast)
Grimoire of Sacrifice - Effect now lasts for 15 min, up from 5 min. Grants a 30% boost for 15 sec, which drops to 15% for the remaining duration.
*NEW* Archimonde's Vengeance - Curse an enemy, causing them to suffer 30% of all damage you take. Lasts 10 sec. Passive: Enemies who attack you suffer 5% of all damage they deal to you. This effect is disabled while on cooldown. 1 min cooldown.
Mannoroth's Fury - Now increases the radius of your non-talent Area of Effect spells by 200%.

Class
Shadow Bolt - Now a 2.5 sec cast, up from 1.7 sec.
*NEW* Demonic Tactics - Causes your Imp, Succubus and Voidwalker to behave more intelligently.
*NEW* Malady - Harms the target, causing 1393 Shadow damage over 18 sec. Required level 3. (40 yd range, Costs 2% of base mana, 2 sec cast)
Drain Life - Now lasts 6 sec, up from 3 sec.
Soul Fire - Soul Fire now always critically strikes. In addition, the damage is increased by your critical strike chance.
Soulstone - When cast on live targets, the soul of the target is stored and they will be able to resurrect upon death. If cast on a dead target, they are instantly resurrected. Targets resurrect with 30% health and 30% mana. Required level 18. (40 yd range, Costs 5% of base mana, 10 min cooldown, 3 sec cast)
*NEW* Felsteed - Summons a Felsteed, which serves as a mount. Required level 20. (1.5 sec cast)
Eye of Kilrogg - The eye is now stealthed and moves quickly but is very fragile.
*NEW* Dreadsteed - Summons a Dreadsteed, which serves as a mount. Required level 40. (1.5 sec cast)
Summon Infernal - Now attacks targets near the impact point, previously attacked targets afflicted by your Bane of Agony or Bane of Doom spells.
Soulburn: Curse - No longer inflicts a cooldown.
Fel Flame - Now increases the duration of Corruption by 6 sec.
Dark Intent - Now increases party/raid spell power by 10%, up from 6%.
Demonic Gateway - Now has a 20-70 yd range, previously 70 yd. Previously "Demonic Portal."
Démoniste Gobelin niv. 85
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Affliction
Potent Afflictions - Now increases the damage of Bane of Agony, Corruption and Unstable Affliction by 13%. Each point of Mastery increases this damage by an additional 1.63%.

Demonology
Metamorphosis - You transform into a Demon, now increasing the benefit of Demonic Fury by 100% and allows the use of various demonic abilities.
Demonic Fury - Demonic Fury now increases your damage dealt by up to 6.50% (+0.5% per Mastery). Many spells and demon attacks generate Demonic Fury: Soul Fire: +40, Shadow Bolt: +25, Shadowflame: +15, Corruption: +12 per tick, Drain Life: +10 per second, Hand of Gul'dan: +25 per target.
*NEW* Corruption - Corrupts the target, causing 2102 Shadow damage over 18 sec. Demonic Fury: Generates 12 Demonic Fury each time it deals damage. Required level 12. (40 yd range, Costs 2% of base mana, Instant cast)
*NEW* Metamorphosis: Nether Plating - While using Metamorphosis, your armor contribution from items increases by 600%, the chance you'll be critically hit by melee attacks is reduced by 6% and the duration of stun and snare effects is reduced by 50%. Required level 27.
Bane of Doom - Now banes the target with impending doom, causing 23,416 Shadow damage over 1 min. Limit 1 target.
*NEW* Felguard: Felstorm - Grants your Felguard the ability to cast Felstorm. The Felguard recklessly swings its Axe, striking all nearby targets within X yards for its weapon damage plus 56 every 1 sec for 6 sec. The Felguard cannot perform any other abilities during Felstorm. Required level 48.
*NEW* Guld'dan's Grasp - Reduces movement speed by 35% for 10 sec. Stacks 3 times. Caused by Hand of Gul'dan. Demonic Fury: Generates 25 Demonic Fury if the target has not already been afflicted with Gul'dan's Grasp. Required level 62.
*NEW* Metamorphosis: Cursed Auras - While using Metamorphosis, your Curse of the Elements and Curse of Enfeeblement become auras. Aura of the Elements: Curses all targets within 20 yards, increasing magic damage taken by 8%. Aura of Enfeeblement: Binds all enemies within 20 yards in demonic energy, reducing physical damage by 30% and increasing the casting time of all spells by 30%. Required level 67.
Master Demonologist - Now increases the damage done by your demon servants and the benefit from Demonic Fury by 6.50%, up from 5%. The damage you deal while transformed into a demon is now increased by 6.50%, down from 10%. Each additional point of Mastery now increases the bonus by an additional 0.5%.

Destruction
*NEW* Chaotic Energy - Your mana regenerates substantially faster, Soul Fire and Fel Flame cost more mana and deal 12% more damage. Required level 10.
*NEW* Ember Tap - Heals 19.29% of your health. Required level 10. (Instant cast)
Burning Embers - Burning Embers are generated by casting Incinerate on Immolated targets and are consumed by Soul Fire. Burning Embers cause you to take damage over time and should be consumed frequently. Previously "Unstable Embers."
Fire and Brimstone - Your next Immolate, Incinerate, Conflagrate or Curse will hit all targets within 15 yards of the target and now deal 44.29% of their normal damage. (No cooldown)
Immolate - Now replaces Malady, previously replaced Corruption.
Emberstorm - Now increases the effectiveness of Burning Ember consuming spells by 2.64% per ember consumed. Each point of Mastery increases the Unstable Embers bonus by 0.33% per mastery, down from 0.50% per.
Destructive Influence - Your demon's attacks reduce the casting time of your next Soul Fire by X sec. Stacks up to Y times.
Démoniste Orc niv. 85
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*NEW* Malady - Harms the target, causing 1393 Shadow damage over 18 sec. Required level 3. (40 yd range, Costs 2% of base mana, 2 sec cast)


Yeah un 4eme dot ! \o/
Démoniste Orc niv. 85
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Ca dépend en quelle spé ouais :P
Pour le moment si je dis pas de bétise ça donne
4 en Affliction : Malady, Corruption, Unstable Affliction, Agony vu qu'ils durent très longtemps
3 en Démonologie : Malady, Corruption, Bane of Doom (+Shadowflame mais c'est pas vraiment un Dot)
1 en Destruction : Immolate

Avec en plus le système Everlasting affliction, la gestion des DoTs va être rudement simplifiée :x
Modifié par Zumzum le 16/02/2012 16:09 CET
Démoniste Mort-vivant niv. 85
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1 en Destruction : Immolate


sadvrépoèt'rodur
Voleur Gnome niv. 1
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j'ai rien dit
Modifié par Ehth le 16/02/2012 19:39 CET
Démoniste Gobelin niv. 85
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Perso j'pense que l'UA remplacerait malady en Affli.
Démoniste Orc niv. 85
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Pour le moment Malady deal moins et prend deux secondes de cast... c'est le portrait craché de la première version de corruption en somme.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4063167954?page=35#689


Malady is a level 3 spell that is replaced by Immolate (Destruction) or Corruption (Demonology/Affliction).

Ça sux en fait


Dark Soul is a replacement for Demon Soul based on spec. We’re experimenting with the exact mechanics.

Destro : Instability 2 min CD. Augmente vos chances de critiques de 30 % pour 20 sec
Passif: + 5 % crit. Disabled while on cd.

Affli : Misery 2 min CD. Augmente la haste des sort de 30 % pour 20 sec.
Passif : + 5 % haste. Disabled while on cd.

Demono: Knowledge 2min cd. Augmente le maîtrise de 30 % pour 20 sec.
Passif : + 5 % Maitrise. Disabled while on cd.
Modifié par Beloresin le 17/02/2012 00:53 CET
Démoniste Orc niv. 85
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http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1082378-Updated-talent-calc?p=15535723&viewfull=1#post15535723
Wild Imps est de retour :p
Modifié par Zumzum le 17/02/2012 00:55 CET
Démoniste Orc niv. 85
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C'était aussi dans mon post, sur le lien premier. ^_^.
Démoniste Orc niv. 85
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Excusez-moi donc Maître Beloresin pour ce post croisé dans mon topic !
Démoniste Gobeline niv. 90
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Normal qu'aucun cooldown soit affichée dans la liste des skills ?

parce que la on dirait qu'on sera en perma forme de demon, meme si j'ai honnetement rien compris a la spé demono de mop :)
Démoniste Orc niv. 85
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Ember Tap -> Replaces Life Tap, Costs 10 Embers
Incinerate -> Generates 1 Ember, 2 if it crits
Fel Flame -> Generates 1 Ember, 2 if it crits
Soul Fire -> Consumes up to 10 embers. Costs no mana if it consumes 10 embers.
Conflag -> Triggers Backdraft, 12 second cooldown
Fire and Brimstone -> Costs 10 Embers

Destruction Warlocks do not use Life Tap - instead they burn at a rate of 0.33% of maximum health per second, increasing to up to 1% of maximum health per second, if they pool embers.

Pas de Connexion en Destro, avec en plus la Récolte d'âme qui est partie on va vraiment à nouveau se faire chier à manger toute la bouffe avant chaque pull :(

Je suis vraiment pas fan du fait de perdre de la vie constamment à cause des Embers et de devoir choisir entre DPS et se heal en raid oO
Et en PvP aussi ça va être sympa :D
Démoniste Mort-vivant niv. 90
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@zumzum
le fait que les embers nous brûlent est fait pour pas les garder indéfiniment car c'est quand même surpuissant un feu de l’âme sous 10 embers. donc faudra les consommé dés que possible

et puis en raid ya des healeurs pour nous re!@#$%^ de la vie constamment donc je voit pas pourquoi tu t’inquiète.
avant on bouffé constamment notre vie avec connex et les healers nous healer sans prob.
la sa sera juste moins violent mais plus constant
Démoniste Morte-vivante niv. 85
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au pire tu gratte le guide de lumière :p
Démoniste Orc niv. 85
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Disons qu'on va se taper deux barres de ressources.... Prochaine étape, le coût en mana des sorts va disparaître et la barre de mana avec.

@Tina.. y a encore mieux.... Le sort symbiosis du Drood

Here's the process:

  • The Druid will select a raid or party member and cast Symbiosis on them.
  • The target cannot be another Druid.
  • The target gains a buff that tells them what spell they have temporarily learned, and that spell temporarily appears in their spellbook, and they can drag it to an action bar.
  • The Druid’s Symbiosis button will become the ability they gained from the target class.
  • The Symbiosis link is cancelled if: the Druid clicks off the Symbiosis buff, or the Druid or the target changes continents or enters or exits an instance, or the Druid or the target changes talent specializations.
  • Symbiosis fails to cast if Symbiosis is already active on that target.
  • Symbiosis cannot be cast in combat.
  • For the non-Druid target, the icon will revert to a placeholder (uncastable) Symbiosis icon when Symbiosis ends, but will become the Symbiosis-granted ability again the next time Symbiosis is cast on that target.
  • The ability gained from Symbiosis is always something chosen to match the Druid’s specialization and the target’s combat role.
  • The target always gets the same spell unless they change combat roles. A Druid of a given specialization always gets the same spell from each different class. If there is a change of specs, there is a change of spell.


  • Here are some examples of spells gained through Symbiosis. The spells shared focus on utility, cooldowns, and survival. (Adding Fireball to a Moonkin’s rotation sounds cool on paper, but wouldn’t actually be fun in the long run.)

    Balance: Chains of Ice, Mirror Image, Mass Dispel
    Feral: Feign Death (Play Dead!), Frost Nova, Soul Swap
    Guardian: Ice Trap, Fear Ward, Consecration
    Restoration: Ice Block, Hand of Sacrifice, Leap of Faith
    Hunter: Dash

    Warlock: Rejuvenation

    Holy Paladin: Rebirth
    Arms/Fury Warrior: Enrage
    Enhancement/Elemental Shaman: Solar Beam
    Modifié par Beloresin le 17/02/2012 13:57 CET
    Démoniste Morte-vivante niv. 85
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    chaud si on dois se mettre a !@#$%^ des recups sur le raids o_O je me demande bien quel sort on va filer au drood nous avec ce truc
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