Sargeras, Void Lords and Azeroth.
In the beginning; The first of everything, when there was nothing, the Great Dark Beyond. Simply reality, the physical universe. Before the age of Azeroth, a World-soul known as Aman'Thul awoke. He then traveled the universe in search of others of his kind. He found and woke up a handful of his brothers, including Sargeras. Aman'Thul and his brothers became known as the Pantheon, a group of Titans who traveled the universe in search of others of their kind, while creating and shaping worlds and life itself. Their ultimate goal, to uphold order and watch over the universe. World-souls are infant Titan souls that form inside some planets. Even if this is the first stage of a Titan were they are most vulnerable, they are still incredible powerful. They slumber and dream for a very long time, suffusing the very planet they inhabit from the core, before they eventually awaken as living worlds, as Titans. The Titans themselves are a race of colossal, planet-sized cosmic beings. Made out of Arcane magic and the very energy that shaped the universe as a whole. While traveling the universe the Titans found less and less World-souls along the way, but they knew that they had only explored a minor portion of what was out there. Along the way, the Titans encountered the Demons, mutated beings who existed in chaos, and worked against the ways of the Titans. Sargeras, The Defender was the one who took the charge in destroying the Demons. He made it his duty to keep these chaotic creatures in check and make sure they would not stand in the way of the Titans and their creations. As this was going on; The living shadow of the universe, started to grow jealous of the Titans and their incredible power. The Void Lords started to plot out their course of action. In an attempt to gain the upper hand, they tried to corrupt the Titans. However, this proved to be useless, the Titans was just too powerful for the Void Lords to corrupt. This angered the Void Lords and made them scheme another course of success, one that would prove much more feasible. They plotted to corrupt the Titans in their most vulnerable state, the World-souls. The Void Lords then pooled their power and threw dark, parasitic horrors across the universe, hoping that one of these parasites would eventually crash down on a planet containing a host, a World-soul. Among these the parasites that managed to get to Azeroth were later known as the Old Gods; C'Thun, Yogg-Saron, Y'Shaarj and N'Zoth. While Sargeras hunted the Demons wherever he could find them, he soon learned that some had learned to wield Void energies. He was puzzled by this, but continued his work nonetheless. While he was looking for World-souls to awaken, he stumbled upon a sight that changed him forever. Sargeras came across a World-soul. To his horror, he saw that the planet had been almost completely infested by the parasitic Old Gods. It was covered in Void energies, and the normally tranquil dreams of the infant Titan had been twisted into horrific nightmares. At this point, Sargeras and the other Titans had no knowledge of the Void Lords or their existence, he then ruthlessly interrogated the corrupted world's Dreadlord inhabitants, who had come to dwell amongst the Old Gods, and through them he learned of the Void Lords and their intentions. If the Old Gods succeeded in corrupting a World-soul, it would awaken as an unspeakably dark creature who would destroy all of creation, a Dark Titan. An existence that would make the powers of the Pantheon dwarf in comparison. An existence with such a massive force that its very presence would devour the universe. Enraged at this discovery, Sargeras killed the Dreadlords and cleaved the corrupted planet in two, instantly killing the world-soul within. Sargeras returned at once to the rest of the Pantheon to tell them what had happened, but they chastised and told him off for his rash action, telling him that they may have been able to cleanse the World-soul of its corruption without killing it. Sargeras tried to tell the other Titans that what he had done was right, and that the universe needed to be purged of mortal life in order to prevent the risk of a World-soul becoming corrupted and opening the way for the Void Lords and their destruction. Realizing that the others would never see things the way he did, Sargeras stormed off, vowing to purge the universe on his own. At any cost. ''All I did, I did for the universe! Not for power, not for personal gain or greatness, but for existence!'' After Sargeras left, Aggramar continued the hunt for demons in his place. While doing so, he sensed the tranquil dreams of a slumbering World-soul from a distant corner of the universe. He traveled towards the source, then he discovered the world that would later become known as Azeroth. Within its core was an infant Titan far more powerful than any others the Pantheon had yet encountered. However, the world had already been corrupted by the parasitic Old Gods. The infant Titan's spirit remained uncorrupted, but, knowing it was only a matter of time before it would be consumed by the Void, Aggramar quickly returned to the Pantheon and told them of his discovery, telling them that this was proof of Sargeras' claims and that the Pantheon had to take action before the World-soul was lost to corruption. Eonar agreed, and convinced the rest of the Pantheon to save the planet from the Old Gods. They then decided that the Pantheon would travel to Azeroth and cleanse it of the malicious Black Empire which had claimed it. However, due to the Titans' colossal forms and the risk of unintentionally damaging or killing the world-soul, Aggramar decided that rather than take action directly, the Pantheon would create servants to do battle against the forced of the Old Gods in their place. And thus, the Titan-forged was created. Among them was the Watchers, and the Keepers; Giants, Troggs, Mogu, Tol'vir, Valarjar, Val'kyr, among others.. Including Earthen and Mechagnomes, later becoming known as Dwarves and Gnomes by the curse of flesh. The minions of the Old Gods, and their elemental servants native to Azeroth, were powerful beyond mortal comprehension, their forces did not stop the armies of the Titans. One by one, the elemental lords fell, and their forces destroyed. But, it was discovered that the Old Gods had managed to infect the planet so early in its lifetime that they were irreversibly linked with it. Since they could not destroy the Old Gods, the Titans decided to imprison them far beneath the surface of the earth. Without the power of the Void to keep their raging spirits bound to the physical world, the elemental lords such as Ragnaros were banished to an abyssal plane, where they would contend with one another for all eternity. With the elementals' departure, nature calmed once again, and Azeroth settled into a peaceful harmony. The titans saw that the threat was contained and set to work, they then continued to shape the world and all its life as we know it. Meanwhile, across the universe; Sargeras, having now broken his ties to the other Titans, pondered upon the future of the universe. As doubt and despair twisted his mind, as he remembered what he had seen he reached the conclusion that to save the universe from the hands of the Void Lords, all World-souls had to be destroyed. To accomplish this, he would need an army, the Titan then returned to the demonic prison world of Mardum, where he had imprisoned and killed thousand of Demons, he then shattered it to unleash the demons upon the universe once more. In the process of doing so, the former Pantheon was twisted into a fel-corrupted being. The Demons that Sargeras had been hunting for so long now pledged their allegiance to his crusade. They began their travel through the universe together in search for World-souls to destroy, and other entities who would join them. And so, the Burning Legion was created. Eventually, Sargeras got in contact with his former brothers - They attempted to reason with Sargeras and told him of the powerful World-soul known as Azeroth, and that they had cleansed it off its corruption. The conversation turned into an argument, and Sargeras ended up striking down Aggramar, killing him with a single blow of his sword. As this happened, the other Pantheon members attacked Sargeras. However, one by one they all fell to the might of Sargeras. When he was done, he set out with his legion in search of Azeroth, determined to destroy it to save the universe. In his mind, a lifeless universe was better than one absolutely corrupted by the Void Lords, for he argued that if life in its pure form had once taken existence in the universe on its own, it would be able do so again. For whom the leaders of the Void Lords are, he did not know, and his worst fears was to one day find out.13
Could Elisande return? Should she?
After defeating her in the nighthold, her echo actually addresses us and is able to actually use the night well to help us gain access too and empower us in the fight against Gul'dan. The echo has real abilities, could this repentant Elisande somehow enable her to actually have survived our invasion? Wouldn't it be kind cool that the Elisande story continues - not as the almost goddess like level of power and influence she once had, but totally different. Would be nice if the Elisande story continue and we get an Elisande - Azshara confrontation and part 2 when she eventually meets up with the nightborne in some down the line event. I can imagine a good Elisande - "fates be damned, I cast my lot in with yours" who now fights for whats rigiht. She's got no access to the arcan'dor, but she has people who still believe in her, still loyal to her, those that followed her through the madness of the legion, follow her through he change of mind, trusting her decisions were always to save her people" She and her group are now outcasts, they must travel the world, avoid main stream communities connected to anyone who was involved with the Broken Isles and Suramar. So they journey away and have a series of adventures sticking to small communities to avoid public eye. To most people, they're just a bunch of of slightly darker night elves, and are often greeted with the same awe /reverence or suspicion/disdain night elves get from various groups. They could start a whole series of her. They use their magic and skills to survive, taking jobs, often helping all kinds of communities, they don't discriminate between horde and alliance, so they help anyone or everyone, but tend to avoid horde/alliance groups to avoid detection. I would like that :) An alternative destiny could be: They end up eventually finding refuge with the blood elves and joining the horde. Yes, nightborne are a night elf thing, but just like we had high elves on the alliance ( or blood elves join the horde if you look at it that way) we can have a group of nightborne join the horde under Elisande, the magic of the sunwell helping their addiction since they don't have access to the arcan'dor. The rest of the nigihtborne peoples are obviously allied with their night elven kin, maybe the fruit of the arcan'dor reverts their appearance back to night elven - so you get kaldorei looking nightborne in the alliance (with an arcane runed version of the night elf model), but the old nightborne model we now see available on the horde. Then they give the alliance a modified high elf model or half-elf model too. - I don't think fans will complain, the night elves keep their city and most of the shal'dorei whether in night elf bodies or nightborne ones, but the horde get something too, and the comlicated elven saga goes on. Especially when they discover war criminal Elisande is being given sanctuary by the Sin'dorei...ooo.0
Stop glorifying the player character so much
I'm sick of it! And other people i've spoken to are sick of it aswell, the player character keeps getting more and more mindless praise over time, it's stupid You make us the leaders of factions, highlord, farseer, deathlord, etc.. STOP! Just because we helped kill a few enemies doesn't make us great leaders, do you people working on the lore have no idea what the difference is between swinging a weapon and being a tactical mastermind?! I know our characters should be well-known, but keep it at champion, or later in whatever expansion, hero, at best, don't replace leaders of important factions with us, you're hurting the lore, and you're doing that enough without this mess you're putting us in, all this does is tear apart lore regarding these factions you put your "rule of cool" where its not needed, where it actually makes it worse, when working on lore the first and foremost matter is if it makes sense, something you seem to have abandoned somewhere mid-MoP, ever since then, lore has just been rolling downhill, faster and faster.49
Let me start off by saying I adore Tyrande. If there's one character I love the most Tyrande would be my first pick. Now what will this thread cover? 1. Her role in the lore 2. Malfurion and Illidan and how she became High Priestess 3. How she's handled in WoW 4. Val'sharah So lets get started shall we? 1. Her role in the lore Tyrande was smart, an amazing huntress who beat both Malfurion and Illidan a few times. When it came time to choose, she chose the path of the priestess in the order of the Sisters of Elune. Tyrande, in the lore is described as stunningly beautiful, even more beautiful than Lady Vashj, in fact Queen Azshara herself offered Tyrande the role of Majordomo. Tyrande, is strong, she's a priestess of Elune but has the courage of a Warrior, she and her sisters went up against The Burning Legion 10.000 years ago and she fought with pride, and didn't hold back. Then in the War of the Satyrs, she and her sentinels fought relentlessly, in The Third War she goes up against Orcs, Humans, she kills Illidans prisoners to release him because she knows, from a leaders point of view, they need him to fight this threat. She disobeyed Malfurion without a second choice. Then she meets Kael together with Maiev and shows just how kind she is by helping him, he is so lost with his people, given orders by racist Humans and surrounded by Undead. Tyrande, decides to help them out. She then is presumed dead only to be discovered that she's been holding off the Undead. That's one strong woman. Let me just express, how kind Tyrande is. She has no love for outsiders, but in the War of the Ancients Broxigar is being caged as an animal everyone mocking him and who shows him kindness, and heals him? Tyrande. She saw, not a beast, but a living being. She's also shown to not like other races until she knows they are to be trusted and once she knows that, she's one of the best allies you could have. 2. Malfurion and Illidan and how she became High Priestess Malfurion and Illidan caused the first real conflict Tyrande had ever faced in her life, they grew up together in Suramar and as they grew older they both took notice of her. See it as a 'The girl next door' situation. Especially Illidan was quite straight forward about this, Malfurion however, he chose to admire her from afar. Often gazing at her beauty while sitting by the tree's or lakes, so you have Illidan, who is born with amber eyes and is destined for great destiny, who shows and expresses that he likes Tyrande, and then you have his twin brother who doesn't have the amber eyes and likes her too, but he doesn't tell her in an overblown way. It is to this, that Tyrande was drawn. He was quiet, understated and loyal. This conflict went on for a while, Illidan had yet to find his place, Malfurion was training to become the first Druid which is in itself, quite a feat. I saw people saying that Malfurion doesn't really love Tyrande but let me show you why I do believe he does. When Alexstrasza and Cenarius were talking to destroy the Well of Eternity to stop the Demon Invasion, Tyrande as much as she liked her immortality and power, agreed it should be done. What does Illidan do? He loves Tyrande but he went ahead and told Azshara of the plan even after Tyrande pleaded him to not do it, which made it a million times harder to make the plan go through. This resulted in Tyrande sneaking into the palace with sentinels, being attacked by Azshara's guardsmen, which were killed by the sentinels but a lot of them died too. Tyrande was near-fatally wounded, and by seeing that, Malfurion became furious and actually attacked Queen Azshara. He seriously attacked Queen Azshara how awesome is that! This resulted in the highborne being thrown off and not being able to focus their spell and so the Well collapsed. During the War High Priestess Dejhana died and named Tyrande her successor. The only one surprised by this was Tyrande herself, She didn't believe she was worthy of this, but she realized the Night Elves needed a capable leader and she trusted Elune to lead her down the right path. Also lets not forget that Dejhana found that Tyrande was the perfect embodiment of Elune on Azeroth. Also she sort of adopted Shandris Feathermoon when her family was killed because she's so kind <3 3. How she's handled in WoW In WoW, so far she hasn't done anything to noticeable, which is a shame for someone which such a great backstory. She hasn't had any interaction with The Demon Hunters, so far nothing on whether she'll interact with Illidan or Maiev, or even the Naga. Quite a shame. Her kindness, however. Remained. In Cataclysm she was the only one who sent troops and ships to help the Gilneans and thus saving them. Varian refused to send troops, but after speaking to Tyrande he was convinced they would be a valuable ally in the Alliance. In Mists of Pandaria she allowed the Devine Bell to be hid in Darnassus. But in the Landfall scenario, the poor writing began. Tyrande and Varian preparing to attack the Horde in Krasarang Wilds, Varian takes his time to prepare everything and there's Tyrande : 'We are wasting we must attack now!' this not Tyrande.. She's not a whiny leader she'd trust Varian's judgement and not keep whining about it the whole scenario. Then after Siege of Ogrimmar she allowed The Horde to keep harvesting lumber in Azshara if they left Ashenvale for good. Though she doubts how long the Goblins will last with Azshara's lumber, she doesn't trust Varian's confidence, if the Horde, is ever, to break their honour again, her people will ready. 4. Val'sharah Here is the difficult part. I liked Val'sharah, but a lot of people didn't. Lets take a look at it. Malfurion, in a moment of rage, chases after Xavius, Ysera gets us 'the hero' to ride her and get Malfurion, whom is captured by Xavius and turned Ysera against us with the Nightmare stone. He then took Malfurion with him and Tyrande comes to us looking for Malfurion we help her find him, but through the whole questline she is sad and talking about how they love each other. Let me explain why this isn't so wrong as many believe it is. The malfurion cries who said 'Tyrande, where are you? I need you...' wasn't Malfurion. It was the nightmare that was toying with Tyrande. Malfurion is a Druid, and thus, faster exposed to the nightmare, Tyrande lost a lot in her life, she had to lead the Night Elves on her own and when Malfurion came back her life got better she didn't have to rule alone, she had her love back, she was happy. Now Malfurion is captured by Xavius and she can't find him, she's scared of losing the one man she loves. The one person, even when he was asleep in the dream she went to, to find comfort. Then she has to either leave Malfurion be and save the temple or lose the temple and save Malfurion. Either way she'd lose. This must have been the hardest decision for her, she must have been broken, she was sad that the entire zone was being corrupted the nightmare and she couldn't do anything about it. She felt helpless. One can argue that Malf is at fault for getting mad and chasing Xavius either way, Tyrande had a tough time in that zone and she was scared of losing her husband, her temple and with it all hope. In conclusion: Tyrande is a lovely character that has her ups and downs in WoW but in the lore she's such a great character and I would rather Blizzard don't do anything to her cause if they would she might turn into Jaina. Poor Jaina, the once so lovely Jaina who wanted nothing but peace. But that's a discussion for another time! Tyrande is one of the most loved characters and she has a very complex life, she cares deeply for Illidan but he chose the wrong path, so I'm hoping for some interaction between the two. Either way, If a Naga expansion with Queen Azshara comes soon, I'd love for more Tyrande action in the game. What do you think of my thoughts and of Tyrande? Would you like me to do it for other characters too? Thanks for reading and leave your thoughts! :D22
Why should I care about the factions anymore?
Okay, let me explain why I think this way. This will be rather long. With Legion and the Chronicle-books Blizzard created galaxy-shattering threats. The Burning Legion, now in full strength and power, invading millions of worlds, annihilating entire star systems, and winning even when there's a race who caused them casualties in the millions (the Aldrachi...I really hope we see something from them by the way). We have the Void Lords lurking in another dimension, unable to enter but still able to create powerful servants, corrupt the minds of beings and even turning a Titan somewhat mad because of fear. Now, we also have a galactic army fighting against this very threat: The Army of the Light, probably consisting of dozens of different species, Draenei, maybe even humans/dwarves/High Elves (the forces who went with Turalyon and Alleria) who fights the Legion on Argus, and plans to even attack the servants of the Void Lords if no the void itself. Also, now in Legion our characters even joined class orders (if you see yourself as leader or just a member doesn't change here). We worked together with orcs, tauren, worgen, draenei, dwarves, goblins and gnomes. In fact it is the order halls who fight and stop the Legion, not the Horde, not the Alliance. Some "random" dudes thrown together. So...why should I care about the factions anymore? Our characters know about the threats out in the void and Great Dark Beyond (and the latter one is not even fully explored..there might be races/factions just as powerful as the Legion). They know (especially Paladins and Priests who came in contact with the Army of Light) about the gigantic battles out there where the wars of Alliance and Horde not even pale against, but become utterly redundant. (The Factions fight about a few square miles, while somewhere else an army fights over an entire world) I mean yeah: We have PvP and it cannot be removed from the game. It's a part of it. But, do we really have to drag these conflicts into the story? Why not just make them trainings matches (hey capture the flag actually would make sense then). But, with all of these galaxy threatening evils lurking in the Nether I cannot care about the stupid bickering between the factions anymore, which simply looks utterly idiotic when you have an enemy who consumed endless amount of worlds and races. And that's only one enemy. More are probably out there. Edit: You can downvote me all you want. This is just an opinion I wanted to share with the world. Maybe have a little discussion about it.31