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04 Mar [7.0] Help my DPS/Performance -thread! (Read the OP) Greetings, fellow Magelings. Considering there is no current thread like this on the Mage forums, I figured one should be here as it usually benefits quite a lot of people, while same time helping to minimize the amount of misinformation that gets spread around. What is the purpose of this thread? Simply put, it is a place where you can ask for guidance in regards to things you are unsure about, or struggle with. This includes spell usage, consumables, gear and raid compositions as all of them are relevant to maximising damage. Anyone can post to help, but please ensure that information is correct before you press the submit button if you are offering advice. The last thing we want to do is to spread untrue information. What should I not do in this thread? - Do not come here to complain or vent about issues. - Do not ask for buffs or nerfs. How do I ask for help? In order to make it as efficient as possible for the ones helping, you need to provide a certain amount of information. At the most basic level, describing what you do in the game can be sufficient for fundamental things, but for more in-depth questions that just won't cut it. ... The most commonly used logging website is WarCraftLogs. If you can link your logs from there it'll be enormously helpful. If you are unsure how to do this, or just want a bit more knowledge about WCL, feel free to have a read through the guide below. It should answer most questions. It is also preferable that you have done some research previously as to how to play your particular spec. Full spec guides will not be provided here, as they are too extensive. If you are unsure where to find spec guides, I have linked some at the bottom of the post. SimulationCraft First off I'll say this. SimC is -not- gospel, and should not be taken as such. It has gained a bad reputation for illegitimate reasons, not all the modules are great, not all cross-class DPS comparisons are great. There are flaws. However, fear not. SimC is a hugely powerful tool when it comes to optimising our characters. We are fortunate enough to have quite competent people maintaining the Mage module, and we'd be fools not to take advantage of this. It is very good for getting our characters stat weights, as well as comparing different talent combinations. Here is an excellent guide by Frosted, one of the maintainers of the Mage module, to SimCraft. It may appear to be heavy reading, but if anyone is truly interested in minmaxing, this is a handy tool to have. Guides and helpful threads: Fire by Rinoa If there are any hugely valuable threads you wish me to add, feel free to give me a link and I shall have a look. <3Rinoa101 04 Mar
21 Mar 2014 Making a Guide? Here in the class forums, players often put together awesome guides to help the rest of the community. However, due to the high number of sticky request we receive each day, these guides sometimes fall off the front page before we can sticky them. If you have just posted a guide or if you’d like to nominate a guide here on the European forums to be stickied, please send an email to the Community team, including a link to the guide you'd like stickied, at: Alternatively, guide writers can help us spot their threads by putting [Guide] in the title :)Takralus0 21 Mar 2014
41s Struggling with AoE Hey guys. I started to play this mage a few weeks ago and I can't really get around the AoE rotation. I know my gear is not the best at the moment (I pugged normal NH the first time this week), but I generally feel like I'm doing something wrong. Now what annoys me the most about Blizzard is there's no buffer between cooldown and uptime, which means while I cast Blizzard I do no damage. Not to mention the damage is fairly low. Mine crits for like 50-60k right now. Frost Bomb seems pretty weak unless I have Frozen Orb available. I just never get enough FoF procs to make good use of it. I tried Ice Nova and while it hits hard, I don't feel like trading it for Splitting Ice. What I do in AoE is Blizzard -> Frost Bomb -> Frozen Orb -> Comet Storm -> Ice Lance (for Splitting Ice and Frost Bomb). Now then usually Frozen Orb is on cooldown and between Blizzard casts I try to get a few FoF procs and if I get two, I cast Frost Bomb again and dump Ice Lances, but usually that never works out that well. Any ideas? edit: I forgot to mention. The IL buff from the legendary hands is pretty hard to keep up. Is this intended?Narandil4 41s
25m FIRST MAGE EU ARTIFACT CHALLANGE SO i just completed the artifact challange on the first try. If you have any questions feel free to ask :)Rêdemptiion2 25m
1h Best mage World answering questions hi guys, Im know as one of the best mages world when it comes to mythic +. 48 traits, 1 mill+ dps in all dungeons and have never been out dpsed by any class. Im here to answer tips regarding gear, rotation, trinkets and talents. P.S a lot of low ilevel people will downvote since they are haters but thats ok, post ut question and I will reply :)Rêdemptiion8 1h
1h Water Elemental doesn't attack! Hello, it's been a few weeks since my water elemntal just acts as if it is on passive mode. I always keep it on assist mode and I tried defensive mode to see if there was any difference, but no matter what I try to do, it just stands there or follows me. Same with Mirror Image. Thanks.Hileneria9 1h
10h Rate the Mage Transmog Above You - 2017 The Last thread reached it's limit. Everyone knows the drill. Rate the transmog of the person above you on a scale of 1 to 10.Justinia161 10h
10h Fire Mage in 7.2.5 Fire Mage in 7.2.5 This post will serve as a compilation of Fire Mage observations, resources, and suggestions. The goal is ultimately communication directly between us, the players, and Blizzard’s class development team. For all my own simulations, I have used the latest SimulationCraft ( nightly build. Gear wise I am a mythic raiding Frost and Fire mage; my legendaries include Shard of the Exodar, Magtheridon’s Banished Bracers, Marquee Bindings of the Sun King and Darckli’s Dragonfire Diadem. Of significant legendaries I am currently lacking both Koralon’s Burning Touch and Lady Vashj’s Grasp, both equally impactful and strong on single target, the gloves much harder scaling on cleave in direct comparison. Please remember that Simulations are exactly that, a robot playing perfectly unhindered by MS and human error. Furthermore, there are no true patchwerk fights in Legion. Additionally, there are no fights with four targets consistently. The referenced simulations serve to give the best idea of highly skilled players playing a specialization to perfection, which also serves as the fairest comparison. Finally, English is not my native language. _________________ The Fire Mage Fantasy — Explosive The Fire Mage is the OG burst class; completely based around big juicy numbers and as many of them as possible, cramped into tiny combustion cycles with the possible additions of Rune of Power or Mirror Image. Let’s have a look at the numbers! On a 100 second fight, with talents and gear optimized for just that Fire does 919372 DPS. On a 100 second fight, with talents and gear optimized for just that Frost does 1143320 DPS Fire peaks at ~1.85kk DPS and dips to ~450k DPS at the lowest point Frost peaks ~1.59kk DPS and dips to ~715k DPS at the lowest point Direct comparison: In conclusion: There is currently a negligible deficit in peak and a major deficit in low points between Fire and Frost. Looking at the direct comparison, fire dips not only much lower but also much faster. Frost dips below 1 million DPS only at the 75th second while Fire dips below 1 million DPS at the 30th second. There is currently no reason to use Fire, even on extremely, unrealistically short fights. — Area of Effect Fire has always been directly associated with strong Area of Effect damage. It is praised as a strong Mythic+ specialization even to this day. Let’s have a look at the numbers! On a 300 second 4 target fight, with talents and gear optimized for just that Fire does 1736991 DPS. On a 300 second 4 target fight, with talents and gear optimized for just that Frost does 1764816 DPS. Fire peaks at ~3.05kk DPS and dips to ~1.12kk DPS at the lowest point Frost peaks ~2.75kk DPS and dips to ~1.30kk DPS at the lowest point Direct comparison: In conclusion: Shocked? I sure was. Turns out, not only does Frost deal better Area of Effect on average, it peaks just 225k below fire and drops to numbers 200k higher than Fire – the damage is much smoother too, as seen in the direct comparison. On realistic, heavy council type fights with 4 stacked targets, Fire still loses out to Frost. — Critical Strike Quick! What is the best secondary stat for fire? Critical strike, surely! Fire has always been about juicy large critical numbers. But is it the stronger stat? In reality, once you have gotten best in slot trinkets such as Whispers in the Dark and Metronome haste is the better single target stat, with critical strike and versatility not far behind. On Area of Effect mastery is stronger by a landslide, followed by intellect and then critical strike and haste are basically equally strong with versatility not far behind. So what is critical strike? The answer is a compromise. It is the best of both worlds but never the best of any one world. In conclusion: Over the duration of Legion, critical strike to Fire Mages has lost its value largely due to the complete demolition of Pyretic Incantation as well as the 7.1 patch’s secondary stat rebalance and the 2-piece set bonus of Tier 19. There is no longer excitement in getting a big juicy critical strike stick, there’s no fun in enchanting and gemming critical strike on your gear, knowing it will make a difference. We take the critical strike we can get. But we take it to be the jack of all trades and the master of none. _________________ Conclusion The Mage’s Fire specialization has become a very niche pick. Its only strength lies in 30 second fights or similarly short trash or add phases of 6 targets or more. It is a specialization heavily reliant on legendaries, more so than any other specialization. The payoff is negligible. Fire is competitive in Mythic+ boosting on keys 9 and below. At keys 10 and above Fortified makes the trash live for too long and you pull less, Tyrannical similarly makes the boss live too long. If you want to push high keys, 9 times out of 10, you should bring your Frost or Arcane specialization. Finally, Fire has, of any DPS specialization, the highest damage fall off. The consistency simply isn’t there, and the short lived inferior burst windows cannot carry a realistic duration fight. Looking at logs, there's no consolation in sight. On the 75th percentile Fire Mage is currently dead last at #24 on Mythic difficulty ( This is a look at individual fights: Skorpyron: #7th ( Chronomatic Anomaly: #23 ( Trilliax: #22 ( Spellblade Aluriel: #19 ( Tichondrius: #9 ( Star Augur Etraeus: #17 ( Krosus: #22 ( High Botanist Tel’am: #24 ( Grand Magistrix Elisande: #23 ( Gul’dan: #23 ( _________________ Suggestions I will leave suggestions to the community; here is a couple of my own: 1) Similarly, to how Wreak Havoc has been holding back Destruction Warlocks on single target, the talent is just too powerful (as addressed in upcoming changes), so too is Rune of Power holding back the Fire Mage. Although I very much like the concept and how it rewards better players, it is just too good in a specialization based around burst windows. Any buff to Fire Mage’s burst would then exponentially see an increase through Rune of Power. Get rid. Higher baseline damage to compensate, and add a new interesting talent. 2) Ignite needs a rework. It is super fun to spread around your ignites on Area of Effect content, yet it does nothing interesting on single target. I suggest that whenever ignite does not find a target to spread to, and when it is only applied to a single target, the damage is increased by x%. _________________ Resources SimulationCraft WarcraftLogs [7.2] Frost Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary [7.2] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary Mage Discord Channel 10h
11h 7.2 recommended order hall champions and bodyguard What champions do you use in 7.2? At the moment I'm not hearing good things about the new Mage followers, also that there are better bodyguards than modera What would you folks recommend and why? Thanks :)Yepa7 11h
11h Class hall bodyguard Aethas or Akazamzarak Have anyone toyed around with those two, which would be a better bodyguard as i always seem to ha spare champion so i'd put one into some open world action. With that said does anyone know what Akazamzarak's hat-trick gifts drop?Dreadspec2 11h
11h Pawn Strings 7.2 Fire Mage AoE Any fellow mage specialised in AoE can suggest Pawn Strings or stat priority for 2 or more targets? Specialising for for just AoE capability and was wondering if the stats should be different Would appreciate the advice!Jamiebot2 11h
11h Make frozen orb work like it does in PvP Hello, Every mage knows how buggy frozen orb can be. Sometimes it just gets stuck in the ground, failing to reach its target. Sometimes it just speeds off into the horizon. Being so dependant on Fingers of frost procs, having a failing orb can be devastating. How about making frozen orb work like it does in PvP, so we can place it wherever we like? I mean, it's already in the game. It would make things so much better. Granted, with shimmer talented you can blink in, release the orb and get out again, playing it safe. It's not ideal though, usually we want to save shimmer for dealing with boss mechanics. Anyone else thought about this?Stormblåst1 11h
12h Bring back reforging! So, as a frost mage, im struggling to get rid of all this damn mastery! Wish reforging was back so i could reforge it all to haste!Aketu0 12h
21h Rework Shard of the Exodar - please ? It's my first post on mage forum because I totally don't care about this class. Anyway, actually we have a LOT of really stupid and terribly braindead situations when a) mages won't pop TW and waiting till somebody else pop that because they want to use buff from Shard of the Exodar (actually 90% of mages with that ring don't care about their group) b) mages popping drums instead of TW and party doesn't have benefit from extra haste% from TW Imo that legendary should be totally reworked to work like a shammy legendary (increased TW duration) to totally remove this kind of stupid situations on raid when you have to pop drums because mages won't loose their bonus from ring.Jeet13 21h
1d Cauterize Annoying AF? Hi there fellow mages. is there anyone else, than I, who find Cauterize super annoying for PvP perspective? I would prefer something like Blazing speed so I dont feel forced to have Shimmer :S as I am one mage who plays without Shimmer. Abilities such as Blazing speed or Alter Time is a big need for me. as those spells helped me a lot in MoP and WoD. btw which were awesome expansion from a PvP pow.Slaughness4 1d
1d Arcane Raven You remember those pink glowy arcane ravens we flew on to the broken shore in 7.2? Why dont we get an ability to turn into those instead of the disc? It fits cuz Atiesh had that ability, so if Khadgar can do it, so can we. If Druids start throwing a hissy-fit cuz theyre no longer special snowflakes, our argument will be "its magic, i aint gotta explain s__" Its already got an Arcane version, so just add one with fire, and one made out of ice.Bakaar11 1d
1d How much crit before I aim for mastery? ^^ Currently sat around 56% crit. 14% mastery. 11 % haste. I'm looking to improve dps in mythic + What % of crit do you guys aim for before you start building mastery? ThanksFizze4 1d
2d is fire mage a top tier dmg dealer in raiding? i was wondering if fire mage right now can top the dps with BIS or if its just a bad class for pve content at the momentDalapie4 2d
2d Time and Space still broken in Karazhan Time and space echoes pull everything in lower karazhan. On the way to opera I managed to pull half the packs below and after defeating opera it's possible to pull everyting below the stage... Why are these bugs not being fixed? Every time something new for arcane is introduced it's broken for ages. Arcane familiar, Everywhere at once, T19 4 set (broken for 4+ weeks?) and now Time and Space.Kaelthai3 2d
2d I got put off leveling my mage Hey all, So I stopped leveling my mage around a month or so ago. He is currently level 108. Thing is the forums were saying how bad fire mage is now etc etc. It just put me off really. I have tried with alts in Legion, but it feels quite a grind with the whole AP things, so I have to feel like its worth it and most of all that I will enjoy it. I know fire will be getting some number tweaks in next patch. Can I ask is Arcane more interesting than it used to be? I used to try and play it back in Wrath/Cata but I found it really dull. Frost always felt a bit slow with the long cast times. So yea is Arcane more fun than it used to be? I did enjoy fire and maybe it will get some love. My main was a warlock. Yet this expansion ruined it for me. So yea I really want to have some fun again :)Ázkeban7 2d
3d mage rbg best mage spec for RBG ?Bify2 3d
3d Caster class questions Hello everyone, What is a fun caster class to play? I don't really care for top dps, although it would be nice. I'd rather enjoy my class/spec then to do best dps ingame and not enjoy the class at all. And for my last question, which classes require lots of buttons to press to execute the class well and which don't? Thnx for reading and hope someone can answer my questions :-)Elkoy3 3d
3d Glacial spike viable? As the title says: is glacial spike viable in pve (mythics+/raids)? How much does it fall behind ice lance crit build? I'm asking because so far I geared up for arcane (so now I have 41% mastery on arcane) but I just now took a look at icy veins and mastery is the bottom stat for frost... Would a mastery focused GS build work? What other talents should I pick up? ThanksMetalnuts3 3d
4d r.i.p. Thermal Void..... maybe. (ptr patch notes) ... Source: Seems like a clear dps loss to me, I was able to often extend IV to my second Frozen Orb, to then extend it some more. Looks like that is going to be alot harder if this goes trough. Also Blizzard, if you by some miracle read this, the only real "problem" with Frost is the gimmicky double Ice Lance in Flurry and the OP legendary gloves. These allow the absurd high uptimes of IV on very well geared players, easily pusing it to the 2nd or even 3rd Frozen Orb. Thermal Void, on the other hand, is fine. It's fun and rewarding to pull off huge IV uptime, as long as things don't get out of hand. You're "fixing" this the wrong way. Changing IV like this will severly cut all Frost mages down, instead of the ones breaking the dam with the problems I described earlier. Also it will ruin Frost scaling later down the line. For once, get your priorities straight, I don't feel like farming out yet another weapon.Déer30 4d
4d Arcane mage NT, UM or Erosion Hello all! I'm a new Arcane mage, and i am seriously wondering which talent works the best for low level Mythic + dungeons! we're talking level 10 and below! I am very well aware that Erosion is the better choice for single target and raiding - but for the mass AOE in low level Mythic +, which is better? Thanks :)Cúrumo4 4d
4d Presence of mind bug I cast presence of mind but I was unable to cast arcane blast while moving as one usually can. I've noticed this before. I cast presence of mind while invisible I think. Not only was i unable to instant cast arcane blast, but presence of mind remained greyed out as if i had remaining charges of instant cast arcane blast for the rest of the game, effectively removing presence of mind from my spellbook. Anyone else had this problem?Yeshuagave0 4d
4d Mage legendary farm tactics Guys hey It has been a whıle sınce ı got legendary after ı unlock the equıp legendary ıncrease traıt from class order hall yet secpnd one just doesnt drop. What shall i do to increase my legendary drop? Also moreover should i do the traıt ıncrease legendary equıppable by one on the alts to get a legendary on alt too? Would that decrease my chance to get legendary on the maın? Any other tıps are welcome thanksNomnar3 4d
4d Disable proc on screen. Every time I get a brain freeze proc there come's like this ice thing on my screen can I disable that?Mentoes1 4d
4d Frost mage desperate for help Please could anyone help me frost mage? I have recently switched to frost from arcane as I couldn’t seem to get that right either. I am either missing the fundamentals or I am just a bad player (probably both). Rotation (no elemental) • Icy Veins • Frozen Orb • Ebonbolt • FOF proccs to extend IV • Frostbolt filler FOF – use when available Brain freeze – I use all FOF proccs up cast Frostbolt, Flurry and IL to shatter. As you can see from my logs, have a fairly good/ ok gear score but I really struggle with dps 300 -450k. I would appreciate any help as I’m totally failing as a mage at the moment. Thank you in advance for any help at all.Havocc3 4d
4d frost Mage Stat Priority Hi Guys, I have an issue, in that I am trying to find out the stat priority for PvE frost mage, I have been to many different sites and seen several answers: int>crit, int>haste, int>ver please can you help me out and give me a definitive answer, also what are the soft caps for these stats. Thank you in advance.Kleenesh10 4d
4d WE get buffed 6% tomorrow WE get buffed 6% tomorrow. Check MMORêdemptiion8 4d
5d Frost Mage - Double Ice Lance If it would be meant to be in the game, it would work for everybody and it does not. I can not get it to work even when Im at 180 Haste, standing 10-15 yards from the the Mage class hall target dummy. I play at 47ms and I have tried the addon suggested in this thread: I have tried to have Input Tolerance at 50, 75, 100, 125, 150, 175, 200, 225, 250, 300 and 400 and none of them make me to be able to cast a succesful double Ice Lance. Also if this really is meant to be in the game, you should not have to rely on addons to get it to work! Blizzard either need to remove this from the game ASAP or make it so that it works for everybody and without the help of an addon!Novoz3 5d
5d Marquee inquiry! Yesterday I got Marquee Bindings of the Sun King as my 6th legendary from a Legionfall bag. Yay me! I have some questions about how to optimally use it though. So right now I'm using Belovi'r and Sephuz as my to go all purpose legendaries. They're great for mythic+ and the stat boost they give is glorious. Now, I want to start using Marquee (obviously) so what legendary should I switch out? If I drop Belo'vir I lose about 1k intellect and some haste mastery, and if I drop Sephuz I go down from 50% crit to 42% Not to mention I lose the haste bonuses. Would the giant loss of crit/haste be a good price to pay for the Marquee procs? Or should I switch out Belo'vir? Another question: Is Marquee a raid only legendary? I have used Marquee once in mythic+ right now, and I'm finding myself awkwardly trying to get off pyroblast hardcasts while still doing mechanics as well. Could be a l2p issue but maybe it's just not a good mythic+ legendary. I'm thinking about just using Marquee for raids and the sephuz/belo'vir combo for mythic+. Any advice is greatly appreciated.Vandel3 5d
5d Blizzard on single target now? So, with the new trait, Blizzard should be used on single target every time while frozen orb is active, right?Sandalf6 5d
6d Dragons breath with Darckli Feels like dragons breath (using darckli legendary) has become alot wider, has there been a recent buff or anything?Irrumabo0 6d
6d Blizzard jokeing with Firemages? Hello guys, So I played fire mage since legion launched, and I did very well in mythic + and raids always at the top. I then did not play 7.1.5 because of studies and now I came back to 7.2. WTF HAS HAPPEND IN THESE MONTHS?? I know I play firemage optimal compared to many since I spend much time at dummies just to try trinkets, rotation, stats talents etc. So right now Im 909 equipped and Hunter/warlock who are 895 have same dmg as me in mythic + ?? I have 600k dps on some boss fights and other my ilevel are 900-1000 k? Dont look at my talents atm Im just trying everything to see wtf is going on and if I can change anything? Is it just me or do you also get owned my other classes 10 ilevel below you??Rêdemptiion11 6d
17 Apr I come the bearer of (goodish) news... "Just to clarify: the specs I called out in the original post are those we're planning major rotational/mechanical changes to. We're also planning talent/balance tuning for many other specs (e.g. Fire Mage, Blood DK, others) that don't need a mechanical overhaul but could still use some numbers love." Source: So Fire is seeing some love on the horizon, be good to find out how much loveCoruthas6 17 Apr
17 Apr So Arcane? Do people think arcane will be better 7.2.5 with thermal void change and also arcane scaling better? It is probably the best time to switch now before the new raid opensGorazul3 17 Apr
17 Apr Arcane Mage and Arcane Explosion Hey guys, About two weeks ago I created a topic on the Class Development section questioning why does a Arcane Mage need to be in melee range to use Arcane Explosion to deal strong AOE damage. Unfortunately the topic didn't get attention. The link is: The solution I propose is to make Arcane Explosion explode around our selected target within xx yards and explodes around us when we have no target selected. As I said on the final part of that post, I believe that a mage needing to be in melee range do deal damage is against the fantasy of the class and the philosophy of a ranged class. I started playing WoW in the previous expansion so I don't know if there was ever a time where Arcane Explosion exploded around the target we have selected. Also, although I'm not certain, something like this would probably make Arcane Mage more powerful on AOE (and the Time and Space artifact trait just adds onto this). I'll appreciate you guys thoughts about this.Amorimx4 17 Apr
16 Apr Tips for Thwarting the Twins [Frost mage challenge] Hello fellow Frost mages. I just beaten the challenge for the frost mage artifact weapon which MM hunters, Moonkins and affliction warlocks also get. And I'm just gonna give a few tips to those who are still struggling on this challenge. First off. My Ilvl when doing it was 894. My talent choices: 3/1/3/3/1/3/1. Legendary of choice: [Sephuz's Secret]. Any other is up to you. I was using bracers as 2nd, but the ring is really strong here. Food buff: Bear Tartare. So a run down of the encounter: It's all about kitting and spamming ice lances Phase 1: You face Karam first. He's a melee that 1 shots you. You just kite him around in a circle. But this is where your dps is tested. He will gain a stacking buff that increases dmg and increases movement speed. So your slows won't last forever. + he DR's frost nova's so don't do it too often. Phase 2: Once Karam reaches around 30-35% he will start to heal and Raest becomes active. He spawns a bunch of small adds that hurt alot. This is where you use blizzad with AG. It will give you alot of Frozen orbs. Focus on Raest and let orb and blizzard slowly kill adds. You only have a small window to get him as low as possible. Don't interrupt Raest's cast. Ice barrier can take care of that. Phase 3: Karam is fully healed and starts chasing you again while Raest... doesn't do anything. You still have the small adds he left behind. Don't focus them. Use them for blizzard and frozen orb only. So you can get lots of Ice lances. Karam gets a new spell now that ALWAYS spawns behind him. It will spawn a hand that does a cast that will do 4M hp of dmg if it goes off. This is where you counterspell and nuke that thing down before going back to Karam. use blink to quickly get over to it. Phase 4: Once Karam hits the 30% mark again he will heal for a final time. Raest will become active again while he does it and you have a small window to do dmg to him and see the newest mechanic. Raest will summon a rune that you have to stand in for like 3 secs or it will summon an add. If that happens you die. You can kite it. But it's alot faster than Karam and does like 50% of your hp in dmg. However... pets can also make this rune go away... so just move your water elemental into the rune and your fine. Makes it pretty trivial tbh. At some point Karam will have healed and chase you again and you have everything to deal with now. Just forcus, blow CD's and remember the key tricks: Move pet into summoning rune to remove it. Use Blizzard and Frozen orbs on adds for lots of Ice lances. Ice barrier deals with Raest small casts. So ignore him for now. CS the hand and kill it fast. Then just forcus Karam to get rid of his Devil hands. Once he's gone, any hand that he spawned will go away. Raest will do more dmg now tho, but he won't summon anymore small adds. Just the rune that your pet can take care of. So CS Raest now and Ice barrier up and you should have little trouble to finish him off. If you have the dps for it atleast. He will break the Ice barrier. GG you won. Hope this helps :)Shinnikva5 16 Apr
16 Apr Arcane Familiar + Celumbra Arcane Familiar + Celumbra, The Night's Dichotomy any other arcane mages who find this combo buggy? If I wear celumbra as a Frost Mage, there are no problems, even though I have the pet, but when I wear it as Arcane, and with the Arcane Familiar talent, the Arcane Familiar just attacks everything that comes within 12 yards of me. I first figured that out when I was in Darnassus, and it massacred all the critters I came across, but it's turning to be a real problem on the Broken Isles as well, as it just aggroes everything that comes near, so in mob-crowded areas it is almost impossible to leave combat w/o dismissing the familiar.Kheridwen0 16 Apr
16 Apr Arcane is boring It's really boring to play, largely because I don't feel like an awesome arcanist when I cast, but just a guy whose hands glow blue and make damage appear. Every so often I get to use arcane missles and barrage, but they've had the same visuals for years. Arcane Blast doesn't look like anything, its visuals are barely noticable. It's just a splat of blue and then damage. It'd be better if there was like a pulse of energy and a thudding sound, suggesting that our spells have some kind of impact. Barrage looks very cool but I think it could be more powerful and better looking. Since it uses arcane charges, it should surely make a bigger dent when there's 4 behind it? Look at Arcane Orb, Nether Tempest and Supernova. Those are cool spells with great visuals. If you could apply those to the original DPS rotation spells, i.e Blast, Missles and Barrage, then perhaps arcane would not be as dull.Astromat8 16 Apr
16 Apr Blizard trolling fire mages? Glacial eruption(artifact trait)damage increased by 20%. Seriusly blizard what is this?frost needs buff?is this aprils fools?why u troling fire mages so hard??Prezaki8 16 Apr
15 Apr New frost traits, frost is doing same AoE than fire For the few remaining fire mages, its time to completly swap to frost. We are no longer usefull in this game, frost are just better than us in everything. Thanks to the new traits, frost mages are able to be one of the best ST spec of the game ( if not the best ), and still pulling very good AoE damage ( thanks to the new traits ). Why would you bring a fire mages in your group ? Frost are doing x2 boss damages, and can vaporize the adds just like fire mages. Park your fire mage, its dead.Mildread5 15 Apr
15 Apr Blizzard not talking to mages everyday i see blue posts and feedback for specific classes in forums/mmo-champ/wowhead,but nothing for mages and for fire mages specific since its by far the worst spec to play atm as dps.why you ignoring the class/spec which is a pure dps class and still in BOTTOM of damage meters? so plz can we have some info and feedback/blue post about fire mage and what direction blizzard want to take in 7.2.5?Prezaki6 15 Apr
15 Apr PvP, so what have mages gotten in the past 5-6 years To get away from melee (gap openers)? And during this same amount of time, what gap-closers have melee gotten...lets say Rogues as an example? It seems like melee as a whole have gotten many many more tools to close the distance to Mage, then what Mages have gotten gap openersNovoz1 15 Apr
15 Apr The odds of Blizzard killing Frost in 7.2.5 I'm willing to bet 1 copper that Blizzard will decapitate us in 7.2.5. You?Alessy25 15 Apr
14 Apr Mage type So I just got my mage to lvl 100. Level jump from 41. Decided to go Arcane, because I had liked it at that lower level. I now find though, that he is so squishy and easy to kill. Is there a way to do the other artefact quests, and have I made an error choosing Arcane, or does it simply take time getting used too? Also, the majority of mage I have seen at high lvl are Frost or Fire.. Any advise greatly appreciatedBrokendwarf8 14 Apr
13 Apr Frost mage dps help Can someone review my logs: I don't understand how I get outdpsed pretty hard on some bosses by the other frost mageNistiq3 13 Apr