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25 Aug (Transmog) Weapons that won't show enchants I wanted to assemble some daggers and other weapons that have an intrinsic glow or effect thus won't display, amongst others, the oh so lovely Landslide enchant. (cough) This post has reached the character limit so see #5 for the rest of this list or click the links below. Contents 1. Daggers 2. Axes 3. Fist weapons 4. Swords http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3161447398?page=1#5 5. Maces http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3161447398?page=1#5 ------------------------- 1. Daggers ------------------------- • • • Blue glow 1H Claw of the Netherwing Flight quest reward 1H Borak's Reminder quest reward 1H Glacial Blade faint glow, Horde PVP reward 1H Blade of Unquenched Thirst BOE MH Vicious Spellblade or Earthspike (exactly the same), quest rewards MH Infused Dragonbone Splinter quest reward MH Nathrezim Mindblade faint blue glow, Karazhan MH Jaded Crystal Dagger heroic Magister's Terrace MH Blade of Trapped Knowledge BOE MH The Lost Kris of Zedd very faint glow, BOE MH Talon of the Tempest faint glow, BOE • • • Green 1H Feltooth Eviscerator heroic Hellfire Ramparts 1H Darkmoon Dirk faint glow, BOE reward from Demons Deck MH Sorcerous Dagger faint glow, Molten Core • • • Orange 1H Ceremonial Warmaul Blood-Blade quest reward (Ring of Blood Nagrand) MH Searing Golden Blade BOE • • • Yellow 1H Perdition's Blade orange/yellow-ish, 1H, Molten Core MH Azure Lightblade same model as above only recolor, quest reward OH Searing Sunblade JP reward • • • Red 1H Dustbringer faint glow, BOE 1H Heartrazor faint glow, Tempest Keep 1H Tracker's Blade Battle for Mount Hyjal 1H Wastewalker Shiv subtle glow, heroic Slave Pens 1H Retainer's Blade exalted with the Scryers • • • Purple 1H Riftmaker exalted with Keepers of Time 1H Guile of Khoraazi subtle glow, exalted with the Consortium 1H Vileblade of the Betrayer heroic Arcatraz 1H Zulian Slicer faint glow, no longer obtainable 1H Mindfang(H)/Sageclaw(A) MH, PVP reward 1H Twinblade of the Hakkari and OH Twinblade of the Hakkari Zul'Gurub MH Ritualist's Bloodletter or MH Twisted Reflection quest rewards MH Sharpened Fang of the Mystics very faint, Onyxia's Lair • • • Silver/white 1H Twinblade of Mastery Heroic Mana Tombs 1H Electrified Dagger Alliance PVP reward 1H Twin-Bladed Ripper faint white-blueish, quest Netherstorm MH Time-Shifted Dagger Escape from Durnholde Keep • • • Black 1H The Night Blade BOE 1H The Dusk Blade BOE, same model as above 1H Ced's Carver BOE 1H Blade of Eternal Darkness very faint glow, Maraudon 1H Bloodsipper heroic ICC 1H The Lobotomizer PVP reward 1H Crystal-Infused Shiv created by combining 50 Apexis Shards with Depleted Dagger 1H Gutgore Ripper or Tarnished Gutgore Ripper or Rusted Gutgore Ripper nearly invisible glow • • • No glow but hides enchants Gutgore Ripper 1H, can be passed off as no glow, MC Tarnished Gutgore Ripper and Rusted Gutgore Ripper 1H, Onyxia's Lair -------------------- 2. Axes -------------------- • • • Green 1H Hate-Forged Cleaver slight nearly invisible green glow, Halls of Reflection Hc 1H Amani Venom-Axe green glow, Old Hillsbrad 1H Axe of the Sen'jin Protector (H) faint green effect, Argent Tournament 1H Bogreaver small green sparks fly off it, can pass as no-glow, Underbog • • • Orange 1H Axe of the Legion orange, BOE 1H Firebrand Battleaxe orange/red glow, Blood Furnace 1H Rising Tide faint orange glow on handle, no glow on blade, BT • • • Purple 1H Grom'tor's Charge green axe with faint purple, quest SMV 1H Breeching Comet MT or The Harvester of Souls Auchenai Crypts • • • Silver/white 1H Edge of Winter faint white, BS crafted 1H The Decapitator silver/white glow, Kara 1H Empowered Deathbringer very faint smokey white effect, Onyxia's Lair • • • No glow but hides enchants 1H Rising Tide faint orange glow on handle, no glow on blade, BT 1H Bogreaver small green sparks in core of blade, Underbog 1H The Brutalizer orange glow on handle, none on blade, BT ------------------------- 3. Fist weapons ------------------------- Reflex Blades and Stormreaver Warblades purple effect, Arcatraz/Botanica Merciless Gladiator's Ripper and Gladiator's Fleshslicer purple glow, PVP reward (Area 52)Töki96 25 Aug
27 Jan Interesting and useful rogue macros Hi there fellow rogues, I thought i share some of the macros i use, i developed them myself and found them extremely useful. ... ... These macros are for pvp, when you are spamming your main ability like mad and you lost target for some reason, (rogue vanished, mage turned invisible, hunter feigned death) these will cast fan of knives right away automaticaly. Update: As Mannmedkniv suggested I added the /startattack command to the backstab macro, that way when you cant manage to land a succesful backstab you will cause some dps at least. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ... This is a spammable macro when you notice there is an enemy rogue nearby, it will target the rogue and sap him even if you are currently targetting a further enemy, it ignores pets as well. If you want to sap your current target you hold down shift or ctrl or alt no matter wich and it will sap your current target. Place this on your default action bar in stealth mode. ... Place this macro to the same bind as the previous one but in normal stance (no stealth), useful when you see a rogue while you are mounted. If you spam its key then you will turn stealthed then sap the rogue, if he gets you first then it will blind him. This macro also works for jumping down from your flying mount stealthed, which is a very usefull thing in many situations. In combat it also works as a default mouseover Blind macro but you can simply blind any1 with this as well. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ... This is a simple vanish macro, probably most of you have something similar, it saves you from wasting your vanish when you would come out of combat anyway. ... Replace every man for himself to /use *your pvp trinket* and replace poisons on demand! This macro only makes sense if you put it somewhere else then the default action bar, if you do so it saves you 3 slots. When you are stealthed you would not use your trinket anyways so when you are stealthed and hit this macro it applies crippling poison to your mainhand, if you hold down shift it puts mind numbing on your offhand, and if you hold down alt it applies crippling poison on your thrown weapon. It also handles the pop up questions. When you are out of stealth it works as a simple pvp trinket. ... This is another 3 in 1 macro, if you target a friendly player in your group it casts Tricks of Trade on him, if you hold down shift it casts Slice and Dice otherwise its a simple Cheap Shot. ... This macro targets the nearest enemy player and ignores mobs and pets when you are in your pvp talent spec, and targets the nearest enemy no matter if its a mob or player when you are in your pve talent spec. Bind this to your tab key! Swap spec 1 and spec 2 if your pvp spec is on the first talent panel and pve on your second. I hope at least 1 or 2 of these macros were helpful for some1.Mawerrick175 27 Jan
28 Oct [Guide] Outlaw Rogue Guide 7.0 Legion Updated 4/716 Some of you may remember me from writing the currently stickied assassination guide or from YouTube. Welcome to the first ever guide for Outlaw rogue in the Legion expansion. With outlaw being a new spec in the game which seems to be a simpler version of rogues old Combat spec the rotation seems to be pretty straight forward. Notable changes to the spec:- 1. Shallow, Moderate and Deep insight has been removed from the game 2. Finishers no longer reduce cooldown times (See Talent Roll the Bones) 3. Sinister strike combo point builder has been changed to saberslash 4. Slice and dice is now a talent 5. Killing spree is now a talent 5. Revealing strike removed 6. Pistol shot is a ranged secondary combo point builder 7. Kidney shot is replaced with a ranged stun called between the eyes 8. Evasion name changed to riposte 9. We have no poisons 10. Need to use artifact so no weapon switching. Stat Priority (Subject to change) Stat priority: Single Target Preraid- Agi ~= Wdps ~= Vers > Haste ~= Crit > Mastery Heroic - Agi ~= Wdps ~= Vers > Crit ~= Mastery > Haste Mythic - Agi ~= Wdps ~= Vers > Crit > Mastery > Haste AOE - Agi ~= Wdps ~= Vers > Crit > Mastery > Haste Legendary - Insignia of Ravenholdt ring > Thraxis treads feet > Sinidaria of symbiot belt RELIC PRIORITY 1. Run Through Damage : Fates Thirst 2. Reduce Finisher Cost : Fate Bringer 3. Combat Potency : Fortune Strikes 4. Reduce Adrenaline Rush : Fortunes Boon Gemming (Subject to change) Prismatic : vers Enchant Neck: Mark of the claw Back: Agility Rings: Vers Food Food: Seed-battered Fish Flasks and Pots Flask: Flask of the seventh Demon Potion : Potion of the old wars Optimal Artifact Leveling path Here is the current optimal Path during Artifact Progression https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkYNScP8IqU Notable Passive Talents Combat potency: Your off-hand attacks have a chance to generate 15 energy Fleet footed: Your movement speed is increased by 15% and you take reduced fall damage Mastery: Main Gauche: Your Main hand has a %chance to trigger and attack with your offhand (physical damage) Artifact Ability Curse of the Dread blades Instant (2 minute cooldown) one saberslash fills your combo points maximum (6 with deeper stratagem talent) Every finisher you spend will consume 5% of your HP Lasts 12 seconds Single Target Talents (Subject to change) T15: Ghost Strikes T30: Hit and Run (preference) T45: Deeper Strategem T60: Cheat death T75: Prey on the weak T90: Alacrity T100: Mark for Death Note: This is a single target build. I have not tested too much on single target bosses and will update with more findings and changes. AoE talent build T15: Ghost Strikes T30: Hit and Run (preference) T45: Deeper Strategem T60: Cheat death T75: Prey on the weak T90: Alacrity T100: Mark for Death The bases of the build revolves around fast paced flurry of finishers. The more finishers you do the more haste to obtain to do more finishers. Mark for Death and Blade Flurry really helps build momentum on AOE trash packs so use it as much as possible. The aim is to ramp up alacrity to 20 stacks (20% haste increase) as soon as possible. This is done quickly thanks to Adrenaline Rush and Artifact power. The more haste you have means more energy for cleaving and using finishers. . Mark for death low adds before they die for 5 point finishers to increase alacrity buff. see below. Tooltips Ghostly strikes: Increase damage to the target with ghostly strikes debuff Acrobatic strikes : melee attacks 3 yards further Deeper Strategem: Allows for 6 point finishers Alacrity: Your finishing moves have 20% chance per combo point to grant 1% haste for 20 seconds, [stacking 25 times Mark for death: marks a target, generating 5 points instantly. Cooldown reset if target dies Alacrity Notes: Maintaining 100% uptime on alacrity is very important. You must use a 5 point finisher before the full duration runs out every time or you will have to start stacking the haste increase from the start again. If there will be a period of time where you cannot use a finisher but you can mark for death a target. it's a good idea to mark for death and then use slice and dice when alacrity buff is low to ensure the buff doesn't reset. Roll The Bones ***AoE Build Lets speak a little on Roll the Bones before we go any further since it is the bread and butter of the spec. This is the new baseline ability that replaces slice and dice as it is now a talent. Slice and dice is a reliable talent in terms of you know what your going to have 100% of the fight and that is 100% attack speed buff 100% uptime on the fight. On the other hand we now have an RNG base line spell that we need to try and work around to gain maximum DPS output. This spell will either be really good to you or really bad. it really is a game of luck on the term it will give you insane damage buffs for 46 seconds or it will give you really bad buffs such as a heal. Note that when it does not play in your favour you do not have slice and dice up. When things go bad and it gives only a heal buff it's like playing without slice dice active and is a major dps drop. Roll the Bones 25 Energy / 1 Energy 100 yd range Instant Requires Rogue (Outlaw) Requires level 100 Finishing move that rolls the dice of fate, providing a random combat enhancement. Lasts longer per combo point: 1 point : 12 seconds 2 points: 18 seconds 3 points: 24 seconds 4 points: 30 seconds 5 points: 36 seconds Roll the bones buffs Jolly Roger: Has a 25% chance to for saberslash to strike twice Grand Melee: Increases auto attack speed for 50%+25% Leech Shark Infested Waters: Increases the critical strike chance for 25% True Bearing: Reduces the cooldown of your abilities 3 seconds per combo point spent (see below) Buried Treasure: Your base energy regeneration is increased by 25% Broadsides: Your combo point builders generate 1 additional combo point Note: Spells affected by true bearing Adrenaline Rush Sprint Between the eyes Vanish Blind Cloak of shadows Riposte Grappling Hook Cannonball Barrage Killing spree, Marked for Death Death from aboveAneuryzm58 28 Oct
2h PvP LuLz LoL..... So i left PvP when i saw the nerfs came, i had noting to do this day, so i sad, i give it a go, and what a joke the Rogue class is. Item Level 904 AP level 43 I just get one shoted by warriors and slowed all the time. Stealth is bugged [Dense Concoction] 24% Dmg reduced What a joke... unbuffed AGI 31,624 in PVP 17k LULZ... PVP rogue have never been this bad as it is now, for Battle Grounds, a DPS warrior had 6.9 Mil HP and do the same dps as 2 people There is no reason to take you Rogue into BG and i am not talking about arena for i dont pvp in arenas, so i cant talk for arenas peace out ..Quickstain14 2h
2h Best combo of my legendaries (outlaw) Hi guys i dlike to ask you what combo of two legendaries is TOP for Outlaw nowdays?? tell me what is really best and whats best from my list of legendaries i have right now Thats - Sephuzs Secret-Ring- i really dont use it not good so much Will of Valera-Legs The Sentinels Eternal Refuge-Crafted Boots Insignia of Ravenholdt-Ring that i have equipeed right now Kiljaedens Burning Wish- trinket that i also have on me right now So u think combo of Kiljadens with Ravendholdt is good? or what is really most effective to have for outlaw thanks very much ;)Bodybuilder2 2h
7h I no longer want to play rogue OK so let me start I'm not some pro no life freak that raid 5 times a week. I'm a casual player. Played outlaw rogue since legion release. Recently i decided to lvl up demon hunter for fun and holy F what a difference it is. My DH is 850 but I'll do same DPS as my 895 rogue without even trying. I realized how bad and unimaginative outlaw design is. Whole lvl 60 and 75 talent's are garbage. Cheat death ? haha what a joke most of the time this crap wont save your life anyway.. But lvl 100 talent's are complete joke ! Marked for death ? really ? that crap should be baseline ability . Death from above ? LUL what a joke and ofc don't forget ''slice and never use''. Not to mention that most of the time you energy starver. Damn what a class. After investing so much time into this toon I'm just pissed of how !@#$ty it is...Rickmorn5 7h
11h Getting seriously inconsistent DPS on dummy I am struggling to gauge what items to wear because Sims aren't accurate. My higher ilvl gear: https://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/simulator/report/5925bf0e7e0b496c9b694ca903b71d58 My lower ilvl set gear: https://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/simulator/report/71ea40c50819414482f1c8a6140c551f According to Mr Robot, my lower ilvl set gear should produce more DPS due to the set bonus. Checking for myself after 1 hour of constant dummy bashing, repeating the same rotation, I still can't tell which set is better because I have huge dps fluctuations, from 550k all the way up to 700k; with both item variations. I've done 10 rounds each now and the average for both is about 640k. If there is a difference, it's extremely marginal. What to do?Verunic0 11h
15h Vanish Broken? What on earth happened to vanish after the latest hotfixes? I get stunned after vanish, hunter pets attack after vanish, DKs frost slow me after vanish and so on. The 3 sec immunity after vanish seems to not work as intended now and it really sucks in PvP. Anyone else noticed this?Barcode2 15h
15h Outlaw hidden artifact appearance farming (stealthrun) Looking for peeps to join me with farming the binding in Neltharion's lair and VoW. Nelths lair can be done on normal mode in 5min stealthruns in a group of 4-5 rogues (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82Okr8eHhb4). VoW can also be done in a similar amount of time by 4-5 rogues. Get in touch if you're interested - no particular time in mind yet.Madeyoulook1 15h
18h Noob Sin need some help Like i said i'm kind a noob in playing wow and i don't know how to make my energy regenerate faster. When i use Agonizing poison i have more damage but i have energy regen problems and when i use Alacrity i feel better with my energy but i lose damage. Can someone help me please with some advices regarding energy regeneration for assassination? Sorry for my english.Steelflash1 18h
19h Struggling with AoE as sub I'm not really keeping up with AoE in mythic pluses. Is there something I am missing? I am maintaining symbol of death on 4 packs, dotting 2-3 targets and just spamming evis.Partygrill4 19h
19h Who know good assa rogue streaming on twich ? I lf a imba pve rogue twich, someone know any ?Vadoos3 19h
23h Rate Rogue name.. Rate the name above you :DDeadmouse190 23h
1d i am excited for sub rework how you all feel about it ? :)Danijela26 1d
1d Struggling rogue Hi, I started playing WoW in Jan, and recently created a rogue. I wanted to ask a couple of questions (I'll keep it brief): 1. for a fairly casual player, what are the pros and cons of the specs? I've mostly played subtlety, but find I regularly am awaiting CDs or pooling energy (which is probably my fault somehow). 2. Lockpicking? I tried googling some info on levelling this, and because of the (seemingly many) changes over the years, I've been struggling to find out how to go about levelling it (do you even still need to level lockpicking? or does it just increase in skill?) ... also, are there any good places for farming things to lockpick? Any advice anyone can provide would be massively appreciated.Shankah0 1d
1d Swordmaster vs Quick Draw Hi what u prefer or think its better to choose? i saw many TOP rogues above 905 ilvls to choose swordmaster you think its worth it? or go with quick draw? thanksBodybuilder7 1d
1d Assassination is still useless in PvP How come that even after Blizzard realised that rogue's got to much of a nerv it still takes them ages to fix assassination, i'm litterally getting killed by any class in PvP. All classes simply laugh when they see a rogue, all my dmg get's halved in PvP its HUGE dmg loss even in Open world PvP i'm getting hammered by any class but only there I stand a chance of killing someone. Jeezus god why is blizzard so blind, any class can kill me easily without CD's and I can't even kill a class with all my CD's up ... Godsake its really getting ridiculous, paladin's / warriors / DH's / Mages they all kill me in less then 4secs before they stun run off ... how is this fair when we can't even scratch a class ...Ayurox2 1d
1d Outlaw Help needed So I have recently capped this rogue, around 3 days ago and I have decided to go outlaw, as I have always played assasination. But I have been running into a few problems. I have tried the recommended build from Icy Veins which is, Ghostly Strike, Grappling Hook, Deeper Stratagem, Cheat Death, Dirty Tricks, Alacrity and Marked for Death. I personally find this build does not seem to do much dps for me. So I instead decided to try something different and came to use this build I randomly made which is. Swordmaster, Grappling Hook, Vigor, Cheat Death, Dirty Tricks, Alacrity, Death from Above. I am ilvl 890 and with the build I am running I can do around 420k dps. And with the build from Icy Veins I do around 385k dps. I only have one legendary, and its bad, its Will of Valeera. I still feel like 420k dps single target is a bit low at ilvl 890. Could anyone test the build im using verse there build or the recommended? Would be nice if anyone can give any tips on how to improve my dps.Cubéd2 1d
1d Help with mythic + Whenever I ask to get invited into one, I just get denied pretty quick, or sometimes I get invited and then kicked asap. Im not going for high mythics, just +2 or +3, and im ilvl is 877, so I have no idea what to do anymore. Any ideas? is it because Im assassination or what?Jalice1 1d
1d Need help for playing Slice and Dice Hey guys! I am back to WoW and the Outlaw is a new thing for me; endured playing it for a month or so but it is just... bad with this RtB thingy. Trying SnD but cant get comparable damage to other melees in raids i was so far. Tried building crit and vers, but for SnD its kinda bad. Stacking haste seems bad idea even before i try it unless i have some super awesome RPPM trinket and i dont have. I went geting near 100% mastery and that seems the best thing so far, but its still bad. Any tips on what to do about it, how to gear or anything useful will be greatly appreciated. (using killing spree only for world questing that is why i have it as a talent; just saying) I loved playing Combat rogue and i do not want to replace it with other class/spec so if that will be your advice please do not post it.Shaddak10 1d
1d Why the assassin he need healer to play arena? When we start to play (Instance pvp)whit assassin Rogue?why Crimson Vial is have 15 % heal in pvp and out and sub have 30% .why humiliate the players ?Why do you hate us? So you get us in the game to have fun?Fix the assassin Spec !!! https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17615442769#post-1Dauneveu0 1d
1d Tess Greymane Two questions about the new Alliance rogue follower: 1. Did we ever get a reason for why she is part of the Uncrowned? I thought we'd get the answer when we got to recruit her, but I think I either missed it or it wasn't there. What's up with that? 2. Why does she ride a ratstallion and a nether ray of all things? These feel like a strange fit for the princess of Gilneas - even if she is a rogue. The nether ray is particularly strange to me. Why would she ride that? Has she ever even been to Outland? I think perhaps a horse and a gryphon would suit her better.Clayton2 1d
1d Assassination Relic Choice Hi guys, Im a Assa Rogue 901 and have the 4set bonus Now i play with a Iron relic 890 Toxic Blades. (Increase damage dealt by envenom by 10% But today there just dropped a 915 Fade into shadows relic. (Reduces the cooldown of Cloak of Shadows by 10sec) The stats of the Toxic Blades is better, speccialy for the 4 set bonus. But can i better take the 915 relic? because of the difference between ilvl? I dont know if thats also pushing other stats. Thanks :)Dutchquip3 1d
1d Macro advise needed! I recently started playing Outlaw rogue, and I use the killing spree tallent. People told me that if you use it with Blade flurry it becomes better. Well it does feel a lot stronger jumping around a pack of mobs and then finishing them of with Death From Above. But I digress. I made this macro #showtooltip Killing Spree /cast Blade Flurry /cast Killing Spree /cast Blade Flurry When I press it, it instantly activates blade flurry and KS making me go from ST to jumping around mobs. And when it ends i can press it again to remove the 20% energy regen, or leave it on unill the pack is cleared. I use this macro to initiatie in aoe combat. (Note that it still toggles Blade flurry if KS is on cooldown) I wonder if this is a known macro, or that I should be using it at all.Jorìs0 1d
2d What is the point in creeping venom? Other than keeping rogues from restealthing (Its ironically affective vs us) It ticks 6k. LITERALLY 6K. People have 7million hp in bgs, our dots are already so fking weak its unreal but when you see creeping venom continuously proc on players who remain at 100% throughout a 30 min duration. What is the point?! Like when they designed it was was it their idea for it to actually do nothing at all. Im honestly getting so fking sick of this !@#$ its unrealSethroguen0 2d
2d I want to be a Zandalari Outlaw; So I've started a Rogue, hit talents and am wondering; How is Outlaw for leveling? I'm a rogue I know I'll never get the same leveling speed as a Tank who can just dungeon grind to 100 in a couple week so I'm going to try get levels as fast as I can the old fashioned way by stabbing stuff till it's dead.Nosdydd3 2d
2d Sub rogue pvp - Deeper Strat? Hey I was wondering if some sub rogues with 42+ traits gave DS a try in pvp? Since the two last traits kinda give a boost to energy regen, I thought it may be worth it now. The big reason why I like to use Vigor is because I don't feel energy starved if I have to use Feint, but I really wish DS was the best talent for bigger finisher and mainly because I feel like it makes our only real cd Shadow Blades not feel like a waste (basically when using Blades with vigor, unless you're lucky with a 2cp proc of shadow technique you'll probably use two SS to get your 5cp anyway. Or maybe 4cp evi are worth it but it doesn't feel right). So, did anyone with the new traits try it?Balleck10 2d
3d Outlaw rogue & RtB Hi, I used to love playing my outlaw rogue.m but when I got to raiding I hated having good bursts then nothing because of roll the bones, I haven't played the rogue in ages and would like to pick it up again but is roll the bones still the same?? I also really like sin so should I just change spec?? Thanks allRovoler5 3d
3d Pros and cons of each spec (PVP) Hey guys, I'm trying to decide which spec to go (I want to play pvp). Before you say "just play what you like", I like the fantasy of the 3 specs (Yeah, I decided to play rogue based on the fantasy of a sneaky assassin). I want to choose only one spec because I can't invest so much time in farming ap for two specs, I already have a mage and I don't want to make a farming simulator out of wow. Could you tell me some pros and cons of the spec you play? Or of all of them if you play them. I feel like outlaw is underperforming when compared to the other two specs. I like how assassination's dmg feels like and how in demand it is with Vendetta. But I also feel like I get absolutely destroyed by warriors/DH's/insert any melee but enhancement. Subtlety looks really interesting, but I guess you need to be very skilled to perform correctly, damn all of those jumps around cc'ing the whole world. Anyway, I'd appreciate if you take the time to answerGáuss0 3d
3d 7.2.5 upcoming Assassination updates So, we know devs intend to remove Agonizing Poison and replace it with something else, probably an aoe ability. I also don't like how it works and how hard it makes target switching and ruins ongoing rotation when expires on targets, but most of assassination rogues are using this build and fed up with mastery. This provides us like %40 to %45 flat damage increase on target without Surge of Toxins. Mastery probably won't work well with Deadly Poison. Deadly Poision damage is not covering up that %40 - 45 flat damage increase. Stat weights will surely change after removal. I don't have versa / crit gear backup in my backpack. What do you guys think ? Will they provide a flat damage upgrade to most of our abilities after removal ? Will they change Deadly Poison / any other base abilities in a way that they'll work with mastery ?Mavien13 3d
3d Outlaw hidden appearance is an absolute joke. Why is it that we have a hidden appearance based entirely on whether we're particularly lucky or not? I work just as hard as the next person to get stuff like this but get punished because the stars never blooming align for me. We also have to use tricks and in some cases, exploits to even have a reasonable chance at it. Do you actually think it's acceptable to make players run hundreds of dungeons (trust me i've already done it) over and over to get one blooming item? It is not worth the 20+ hours i've spent grinding and grinding. We want something that is difficult and Rogue-Like not some grind-fest BS because you cannot be arsed to be inventive about hidden appearances. I'm not even going to start on hunter appearances but in comparison that is an absolute insult... I'm 108 runs into doing Neltherions Lair and still have not received the item.. If it was intentional for Rogues to have to run the entire instance for this then i would like that clarified as i think that is blatantly unfair. Respond please blizzard as i will be starting a petition to get this rectified.. A LOT of people are wasting hours of their time grinding this with no luck at all, we could be playing other characters or improving our current one, but with the system in place we are having to spend ridiculous amounts of hours killing the same boss over and over. Fyi to whoever starts with the "vanilla was harder bs" the world is a different place than it was 10-12 years ago, we do not have the time required to play obscenely grindy games anymore, and if you do then you have WAY too much time on your hands..Thcbrah45 3d
3d HC Krosus feedback So I am completely unsure why my dps are so low on hc krosus. My logs for the fight are here https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yLB4Y1JaMWmqDQ83/#type=damage-done&fight=6&source=9 Any feedback would be great because i think i should be top dps in that fight but I was not and i literally cannot find why, i have good uptime on rupture and garrote :(Asheil1 3d
4d How to get dusty pockets ? Hello, as the title mentiones i'm wondering how or where do you get dusty pockets. ThanksAyurox1 4d
4d MotMA + Flickering Shadows I finally got the Mantle today and I'm just quickly asking; Is it worth to use Flickering Shadows artifact trait to reenter stealth every minute in all situations for 6 seconds of guaranteed crits?Dastren1 4d
5d Undiagnosed DPS problems I changed to assassination after a break from WoW for a month or so. I have only been playing since September. I Levelled fine as outlaw from 100-110 and straight up to around item level 825 or so. After changing to assassination I noticed a high DPS bump, but as I've increased in level my damage isn't scaling as well as the other classes of the same level. I believe my gear is decent and my stats are correct, so I cannot work out how/why my DPS on certain fights is so bad (300k single target) apart from my rotation being off. I have read, watched and tested rotations from guides and can now spit out 500k-700k at the start of a fight on a test dummy, but this quickly drops off into 300-400k after the first DPS burst (Vanish + Vendetta combo) If anyone can help me out that would be awesome, I really wanna master this spec/class and be actual use to my guild on anything over normal mode raiding. Thanks.Bättletoad4 5d
5d Rupture damage - what its based on? Hello guys, I have two fight on Triliax, where the envenom and rupture outputs are quite different. For some reason the Envenom crit on the second fight was only 23%, so let's leave this aside for a moment, but the rupture damage output of the two fights is also quite different and I don't seem to understand why is that. Here are the two logs with my rupture damage. Fight 1: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vwHkr4zJGyPLDRMb#fight=9&type=damage-done&source=13&ability=1943 Fight 2: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/g24RxVB3LqdJhkYC#fight=10&type=damage-done&source=40&ability=1943 I ran the two fights with the same talents, same legendaries and same trinkets. There were some changes on my other gear, but on the second fight I think I had much better gear(around 2000 more agility, mastery and crit are also more, versatility is a bit lower(from 4% down to 2%). Another small change in relics - on first fight I had the rupture one(so 3% more dps on rupture), whereas on the second its a 20 item levels higher AP one. Also my garotte traits are all up on the second fight. Additionally the first fight we used two buffs, but still I think the rupture damage on my second fight is unreasonably lower. If you take a look at the other abilities, they all did more dps on the second fight, but for some strange reason only rupture and envenoms are both 10mils less, which I can't figure out how its even possible. Can someone more experienced with reading logs help me out with this mystery?Rohnja2 5d
5d PvP Assassination Feedbacks Hello fellow Rogues, I have made a thread on the 7.2.5 PTR forum so there's a minuscule chance that our voice will be heard. Post all your reports for the current state of Assassination (Instanced PvP) over this thread and maybe they'll read it. https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17615442769#post-1Xaero0 5d
5d Rogue hidden atrifact can't get the quest i clicked on the wrong aswear and now it seems like i cant get the quest! pls help meThewhitewolf5 5d
5d Premeditation -I think they have to delete Premeditation talent and give back 2cp generate by Shadowsrike (like Ambush had). -Premeditation is too good talent... no-one will pick other talent in that row, even next patch (in row with DfA and MfD) - or buff MfD (for example 30sec cd) - i feel like there is no point to pick other talents... they just totaly f*cked up Shadow dance + Ambush mechanics now if you haven't Premeditation you spend so much time and energy to build 5cp. -and why the hell DfA as damage spell is in row with ultility spell/passive... -problem with Talents... you have to choose between 3x dmg spells/passive OR 3x ultility s./p.. NOT like it is now... 2x ultility and 1x dmg spell... like wtf.... maybe i'm wrong but for me it's bad to choose between dmg spell and ultility.Danijela0 5d
5d New Beginning - new Main Hello Folks, I´m looking for a new class as main. Rogue is in my short list. But before i start with a rogue, i have a few questions. 1. Which Spec ist good for PvP(Arena) and PvE (Raids, Mythic, World Content)? 2. Clearing old content solo? 3. Questing solo, easy mode or the hard way? greetingsElyavalan3 5d
5d Mage Tower: challenge appearance (assassination) Not my guide all credits goes to Drugoth! Just thought i'll post it here for the people that dont read the US forums ... Link to original thread: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20753846216Leffert16 5d
5d Help me choose relic Hey guys! I want your opinion on my relics. I have 2 MA and 1 Envenom with this gear https://eu.battle.net/login/en/?ref=http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/defias-brotherhood/Zaytan/simple&app=com-wow&opt One of the MA are ilvl 845 and i just got the Envenom relic from Gul Dan and i wonder if i should go with 2 Envenom and 1 MA until i get another MA like Breath of dusk? Thankful for some inputs!Zaytan2 5d
6d Is this near the end of the Rogue Campaign? Wondering if this is towards the end of the Rogue Campaign? Just had to collect 50 Fel Blood and now I'm on a quest in the Maw of Souls to take an etching of the Raven's Eye Tablet.Shivkebab1 6d
6d Best levelling spec and talents Heya guys, I just returned from a looong break, MoP to be exact. What's the best levelling spec for rogues? used to be Combat because you could hit 2 targets at once... Also, what talents are good for levelling... I'm still trying to wrap my mind around all the changes since I played so any help would be great... TIALillua0 6d
6d 7.2.5 PTR Patch Notes THIS IS EARLY PTR, NOT FINAL RELEASE NOTES. THESE WILL LIKELY CHANGE BEFORE IT GOES LIVE. http://www.wowhead.com/news=262448/7-2-5-ptr-patch-notes-for-april-13th Assassination Exsanguinate now causes your Bleed effects to bleed out 125% (was 100%) faster. Exsanguinate now costs 20 Energy. Outlaw Developers’ notes: Our overall goals here include smoothing out Energy regeneration and reducing the frequency of both resource drought and Energy capping. Adrenaline Rush Energy regeneration increase reduced to 50% (was 100%). Duration increased to 20 seconds (was 15 seconds). Combat Potency proc rate increased to 30% (was 20%), and Energy per proc reduced to 10 (was 15). Fortune Strikes redesigned. Now increases Combat Potency’s proc rate by 2% per point (was +1 Energy per Combat Potency proc per point). Developers’ notes: The net result of the two Combat Potency and Fortune Strikes changes is that Combat Potency should generate half as much Energy, twice as often. Restless Blades has returned. Finishing moves reduce the remaining cooldown on Adrenaline Rush, Between the Eyes, Sprint, Grappling Hook, Cannonball Barrage, Killing Spree, Marked for Death, Death from Above, Vanish by 0.5 seconds per combo point spent. Roll the Bones Developers’ notes: The distribution of the number of buffs you get from Roll the Bones has changed. On average, you will get fewer buffs. Our goal is to significantly reduce the desire to frequently recast Roll the Bones when you get 1 buff. Broadsides now also increases the damage of your combo-point generating abilities by 20%. Buried Treasure increases Energy regeneration by 30% (was 25%). Shark Infested Waters now increases Critical strike chance by 20% (was 25%). True Bearing causes Finishing moves to reduce the cooldown of many abilities by 1.0 seconds (was 2.0 seconds) per combo point. Slice and Dice’s Attack speed increase reduced to 80%. Slice and Dice increases Energy regeneration by 20% (was 15%). Subtlety Developers’ notes:Our overall goals are to remove uncontrolled player teleport from the baseline DPS rotation, to reduce the frequency of teleporting in PvP, to allow players to choose between more frequent or more impactful Shadow Dances, which equates to more frequent CC/utility or damage in PvP, to keep the PvE rotation engaging, and to make Symbols of Death more engaging. All damage dealt increased by 20%. Shadowstrike now hits at melee range (was a 15 yard range). Shadowstrike, when used out of combat, now deals 30% increased damage and teleports you up to 25 yards behind your target. Shadowstep now has 2 charges for Subtlety. Backstab base damage increased by 35%. Backstab damage bonus from being behind the target reduced to 20% (was 30%). The Quiet Knife (Artifact trait) now increases damage dealt by Backstab by 5% (was 3%) per point. Shadow Dance now has 2 charges (was 3). Shadow Dance is no longer on the global cooldown. Shadow Dance’s base duration increased to 4 seconds (was 3 seconds). Subterfuge’s duration increase to Shadow Dance reduced to 1 second (was 2 seconds). Deepening Shadows now causes your finishing moves to reduce the remaining cooldown on Shadow Dance by 1.5 seconds (was 3 seconds) per combo point spent. Enveloping Shadows redesigned. Deepening Shadows reduces the remaining cooldown of Shadow Dance by an additional 1.5 second per combo point spent. Shadow Dance gains 1 additional charge. Deep Shadows now causes all damage you deal to be increased by 35%. Master of Shadows moved to level 90 row. Premeditation moved to level 100 row. Marked for Death’s cooldown reduced to 40 seconds (was 60 seconds) for Subtlety. Developers’ notes: This is to balance it against Premeditation, which is now on the same row. It’s a buff in a raid setting, where the talent was very weak. Symbols of Death redesigned. Costs 25 Energy and has a 30 second cooldown. Invoke ancient symbols of power, empowering the next cast of several of your abilities: Shadowstrike: Generates 2 additional combo points. Nightblade: Deals 30% increased damage. Eviscerate: Critical strike chance increased by 35%. Focus Shurikens is a new passive talent available at level 70: Each enemy you hit with Shuriken Storm increases the damage of your next Eviscerate by 25%, stacking up to 5 times. Developers’ notes: This aims to remove maintaining Nightblade on every target from your AOE rotation on 4+ targets. Instead, Subtlety will deal increased damage during AOE by focusing it into one target.Vaelrea28 6d
6d Bugg or ? hello fellas wanted to ask you about this ... i noticed this multiple times in arena and wonderin if its some kind of stealth bugg or what... when i met mages in arena they use invisiblity at start i usually move away from my partner a bit in case they drop blizzard on him..and always but always when mage is gettin out of invisiblity he is positioned perfectly next to me and freeze me or (fire mage) ccs me with dragons breath so whats your exp with this ?Hellforcen0 6d
6d Trouble choosing gear Cannot decide which item to choose in some slots.. Chose the ilvl above the stats? For example which combination of trinkets would be better? I have to choose between [885]Forest Creeper's Guile, [895]Tempered Egg of Serpentrix, [875]Convergence of Fates and [885]Draught of Souls.. Any idea whether I should go for the overall ilvl increase or chose according to dps increase?Moyloskiller2 6d
6d What combo of legs would best Hi, I am not considered to be lucky in wow most of the times and i end up so far with neck, pants, cloak and belt and i still got no CoF or DoS Out of the 3 bis i got none not to mention the 2 utility ones count towards the 2 of the bad luck protection for offspec.... , thx blizz But what would be the optimal combo? I could use some advice on it to make the best of what i got. thank youRòótz7 6d