Tested out the new Surging shots trait, it is mandatory now. However even with surging shots my dps dropped from 17k to 13k compared to live, so overall this is a nerf in pve. Steady aim build does around 10k dps in comparison on ptr, so its not competetive build anymore, also new trueshot feels very bad with steady aim build, most use of the cd is wasted spamming steady shot. The dmg seems quite good with streamline + double tap rapid fire. However double tap is nerfed in pvp, sniper shot might compensate with a second bursty ability tho. Also with surging shots trueshot feels very powerful c…

MM will be trashtier come live, 8.1 gives us nothing but major dmg nerfs. Sure the rotation feels better but the dmg isnt nearly enough, MM will be unviable both in pve and pvp. They still didnt address the issue with our utility, sniper shot is mandatory in 8.1 for pvp since rest of our toolkit does zero dmg, meaning you lose knock trap or scatter... GJ blizzard u actually managed to make MM worse and 8.1 will be the last nail in the coffin for MM hunt.

After testing ptr, I can say that mm will be dead spec in pve and pvp. The dmg is not there. My ST dmg went from 17k dps to 9k dps compared to live, so thats almost a 50% nerf to our overall dmg. Unless we get heavy and i mean very big dmg buffs mm will be unviable in any content.In my opinion the rotation in ptr is more fun and engaging, you need to manage your focus again. The rotation feels better but the dmg is lacking severly. Unless the new surging shots trait is busted mm is dead. However surging shots might just make us go spam 2 buttons again, arcane shots and rapid fire, where is the…

After testing ptr, I can say that mm will be dead spec in pve and pvp. The dmg is not there. My ST dmg went from 17k dps to 9k dps compared to live, so thats almost a 50% nerf to our overall dmg. Unless we get heavy and i mean very big dmg buffs mm will be unviable in any content.In my opinion the rotation in ptr is more fun and engaging, you need to manage your focus again. The rotation feels better but the dmg is lacking severly. Unless the new surging shots trait is busted mm is dead. However surging shots might just make us go spam 2 buttons again, arcane shots and rapid fire, where is the…

Firstly, tuning will come after these changes. Tuning is irrelevant right now really, we are purely looking at changes from a mechanical perspective.Yes you are right dmg can be tuned accordingly, mechanically these changes make more interesting gameplay for mm. I mainly focused on my post from pvp point of view, should have clarified it I suppose. Losing crits on aimed shot is huge in pvp.Uhh...what? This changes nothing. Explosive shot does exactly the same damage as before. It's just tied to a target rather than a projectile. Careful aim still still sim higher in single target situations, a…

Seems like this is pretty big ST dmg nerf, no more guaranteed aimed shot crits devalue steady aim trait too... Just not sure if the dmg will be there tbh.They will most likely need to buff aimed shot dmg considerably. Atm it doesnt hit that hard without traits+guaranteed crit. Other changes than leathal shots seem nice. Removing rng from careful aim is good, however you will most likely now want to take explosive shot isntead with the QoL changes to it. Double tap will be the go to now instead of new leathal shots. The new version seems like total crap. Arcane shot dmg seems to be 10% buff ove…

Why not take some inspiration from oldskool mm?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVhwiHmV1BIWhere is this kind of gameplay? :(-Make scatter shot baseline and off dr with trap.-Make steady aim trait buff on urself instead on target to make swapping possible.-Make tar trap root enemies for 4s or make binding shot baseline.-Maybe add readyness again on 5min cd, which would reset ur aspects and trap cds + trueshot.Feels like mm misses some utility. These changes would help alot i think. Now our only option to cc is just trap and scatter on same dr...Posthaste is required in pvp imo so cant even pick…

Scatter baseline and off dr with trap.Make aimed shot castable while on move.Take gcd off from trueshot.mm fixed k thx bye.