PSA : Wowhead going too far with ads

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I haven't used wowhead for a long time... I decided it was time to give up on that site after the previous add spam that happened in November. I think the site is great and would think about donating / paying for premium if I didn't feel like I was being blackmailed to do so. I mean having adds is one thing, but having so many adds that having the site open causes you to disconnect from games is something I'm not willing to support.

P.S. Here is a link to a thread in the US forum about the November add spam. The thread is locked, but it sounds like the same thing is happening all over again. https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20752227502?page=1
If you don't like the ads on a website for any reason, simply don't visit it.

Websites, free ones; websites that provide free information for nothing in return, websites that are built by a team of web designers and developers and content producers over a couple of years or even a decade, websites that require a full staff for maintenance so that you can continue to access that free information 24/7 do require ad income to survive.

Using ad blockers or anything in that sense is not cool. Don't do it. If Wowhead dies due to insufficient income, there won't be another Wowhead. Same with any other website that you enjoy visiting a lot but block ads on.
13/05/2017 16:07Posted by Kehinaan
Ditch AB/ABP. They sold out and will let ads through of companies who paid them. Use uBlock Origin in stead.
it works!
uBlock Origin without changing filters works perfectly to stop it as well.

Good for those like me who have no idea how to create working filters xd
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I am using Adblock plugins so I don't see any advertisements, but are they really going overboard with it? Sheesh, talk about desperation, and here I thought Cinemasins was an advertisement harlot taking sponsorships from anything possible (At least, so it was a few odd years ago)

I often use the site to check on things, but I think I might use it a lot less knowing that it is inconvenienting people with ad-spam.
14/05/2017 01:26Posted by Tubri
I am using Adblock plugins so I don't see any advertisements, but are they really going overboard with it?


I would advise to those who use ad-blockers to go on the site, press F12 to get the developer tools, go to the network tab, and watch (if you use IE, press the 'Play' arrow, otherwise it does not start capturing traffic).

If you still see a s***load of activity while idle, and those request actually go through (ie: you get a response time and a size), then you might want to take some extra action, hence this post. If not, well then your ad-blocker is a proper alternative.

I personally don't use one, my hosts file is enough, it's a matter of personal preference obviously.
13/05/2017 21:21Posted by Eom
Using ad blockers or anything in that sense is not cool. Don't do it. If Wowhead dies due to insufficient income, there won't be another Wowhead. Same with any other website that you enjoy visiting a lot but block ads on.


I love wowhead, have always been using that site while playing. If I was able to just pay for being ad-free, I would do it but I cant. And also, you still get to see some "relevant" ads. So "ad-free" is a bit misleading tbh.
I wouldn't mind leaving adblock off for them, because ofcourse they need the revenue to survive, and they deserve it for all the work they put in their website.
BUT if you're being spammed with SO MANY ads that your browser is just crashing... That's just wrong from their side.
14/05/2017 07:43Posted by Maoying
13/05/2017 21:21Posted by Eom
Using ad blockers or anything in that sense is not cool. Don't do it. If Wowhead dies due to insufficient income, there won't be another Wowhead. Same with any other website that you enjoy visiting a lot but block ads on.


I love wowhead, have always been using that site while playing. If I was able to just pay for being ad-free, I would do it but I cant. And also, you still get to see some "relevant" ads. So "ad-free" is a bit misleading tbh.
I wouldn't mind leaving adblock off for them, because ofcourse they need the revenue to survive, and they deserve it for all the work they put in their website.
BUT if you're being spammed with SO MANY ads that your browser is just crashing... That's just wrong from their side.


Exactly why I use Adblocker.

I would probably avoid using it in most cases, but I am pretty much left without any choice. If I get intrusive or possibly even malicious ads thrown at me, I will probably keep it on.

By the way, if Wowhead indeed does go the way of the Dodo due to people using Adblock on their site... Well, I would say that it is their own fault. They should have probably looked for better adverts instead of the ever so classic "Golden pill lasts you with two-hour long erections" or "Rich guy in Your City makes 5000 a day", while the picture is taken from somewhere NOT in my city.
13/05/2017 12:02Posted by Dream
I have premium too. Less than $1 a month, no ads, fast loading and extra features. No regrets.


No lol, you can have no ads for free, just use uBlock and NoScript. You should anyways for other sites.

"Buy our premium so we don't slow your PC down and put useless crap on it" how about no.

Do ads right (e.G like Stackoverflow does) and then we'll talk about disabling Adblock, maybe.

13/05/2017 21:21Posted by Eom
Using ad blockers or anything in that sense is not cool. Don't do it. If Wowhead dies due to insufficient income, there won't be another Wowhead. Same with any other website that you enjoy visiting a lot but block ads on.

They'll deserve it for being asses about ads then.
13/05/2017 12:02Posted by Dream
I have premium too. Less than $1 a month, no ads, fast loading and extra features. No regrets.


No lol, you can have no ads for free, just use uBlock and NoScript. You should anyways for other sites.


I know I could use an adblocker for free, but I use wowhead often and they provide a great resource, so I'm happy to pay what is actually a very small price to get a better experience and support the great people who work on the site.
It's very rare that I visit Wowhead, mostly because of their sucky advertising partners (modal, uncloseable, auto-playing video ads on every single page when I visited there on my phone), and their terrible web design/JavaScript. But after seeing this thread I decided to take another look and got a 12MB animated gif ad for the new Quake. The joys...
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13/05/2017 12:02Posted by Dream
I have premium too. Less than $1 a month, no ads, fast loading and extra features. No regrets.

http://www.wowhead.com/premium


Good for you, but throwing even more money at them than they already make on advertising shouldn't be the solution of the problem, nor be an excuse to show potentially harmful or annoying ads otherwise.
13/05/2017 21:21Posted by Eom
If you don't like the ads on a website for any reason, simply don't visit it.

Websites, free ones; websites that provide free information for nothing in return, websites that are built by a team of web designers and developers and content producers over a couple of years or even a decade, websites that require a full staff for maintenance so that you can continue to access that free information 24/7 do require ad income to survive.

Using ad blockers or anything in that sense is not cool. Don't do it. If Wowhead dies due to insufficient income, there won't be another Wowhead. Same with any other website that you enjoy visiting a lot but block ads on.


Most people dont have issue with adds, it's just the way they are presented.
13/05/2017 12:02Posted by Dream
I have premium too. Less than $1 a month, no ads, fast loading and extra features. No regrets.

http://www.wowhead.com/premium


Something tells me you work for Wowhead and trying to get cheeky and advertisement the premium ;)

That's literally what everyone who works for them say "Report the ad and if you don't like, take a look at our premium!"
This has been an issue somewhere last year, and I have actually considered taking a membership. But as long as they keep doing business with questionable advertisors, I don't trust them with my personal information and sure as heck not with my banking information.
So I use an adblocker and noscript.
13/05/2017 12:02Posted by Dream
I have premium too. Less than $1 a month, no ads, fast loading and extra features. No regrets.

http://www.wowhead.com/premium


what a fool you are
Problem is that ads go through third-party companies which handle them, and those do not care for safety much, as we can see.
I think the only solution would be if the sites made some joint effort and tried to force the add companies to use safer ways, but then I'm not sure if there's any possibility for cross-site scripts to be safe, ever...

Or then there's the solution that is outdated, but safer. Just simple unscripted code like <a href= website URL><img> clickable image </img></a>. Old good clickable images with no scripting at all. But that would need to be managed by the site itself, which is the main reason ads are outsourced...

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