Alliance being the victims for far too long!

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Jaina has been a victim of the Horde for far too long. She even turned against her father and helped the Horde defeat him in order to have peace with the Horde. Then just Horde goes and destroys Theramore in the worst possible way. The alliance has always been playing victims. Always the one attacked by the Horde after recovering from other threats, where they suffered way more than the Horde (Lich King,Legion....) Alliance always initiating the peace talks and prioritizing the future of Azeroth where Horde wants to be at home. Then Horde just goes and kicks the Alliance while its down. They destroyed Theramore, they burned Teldrassill all full of civilians. When we siege Lordaeron, it was originally our own city, we suffer way heavier casualties while the Horde evacuates and fights us off with plague. Sylvannas escapes unscathed whereas we had to flee as well. Also Malfurion is now gravely wounded by Saurfangs dishonorable blow.

Just as I dislike vengeful and brutal actions withouth much of a thought I would honestly feel good if Jaina flooded Ogrimmar, for at least once Alliance being the victor and leaving Horde to lick their wounds,loosing their motivation and being on their knees, at least for once. Alliance has been the victim for far too long, from the ages of Warcraft and through the entirety of WoW as well.
During the third war the orcs traveled to kalimdor
and then a warmonger admiral chased them
then he got killed

why whining ? nobody told him to chase the orcs to another continent
the alliance deserve what happened
Fully agreed, OP.

12/08/2018 19:40Posted by Waygos
During the third war the orcs traveled to kalimdor
and then a warmonger admiral chased them


The fact that those same orcs had ravaged his homeland and burned his son to a crisp a decade prior to that might have something to do with it.

12/08/2018 19:40Posted by Waygos
then he got killed


After he was betrayed by his daughter, otherwise he would have won.

why whining ? nobody told him to chase the orcs to another continent

Nobody told Sylvanas to guitar slide under Frostmourne, so why does she constantly moan about her death and hates Arthas so much?

12/08/2018 19:40Posted by Waygos
the alliance deserve what happened


The Alliance never endorsed Lord Admiral Proudmoore's actions. Lord Proudmoore acted independently from the Alliance.
12/08/2018 19:40Posted by Waygos
During the third war the orcs traveled to kalimdor
and then a warmonger admiral chased them
then he got killed

why whining ? nobody told him to chase the orcs to another continent
the alliance deserve what happened


Acting like the Admiral was a genocidal maniac for no reason whatsoever is the most lorelet thing ive heard in a while
12/08/2018 19:51Posted by Ahtuno
12/08/2018 19:40Posted by Waygos
During the third war the orcs traveled to kalimdor
and then a warmonger admiral chased them
then he got killed

why whining ? nobody told him to chase the orcs to another continent
the alliance deserve what happened


Acting like the Admiral was a genocidal maniac for no reason whatsoever is the most lorelet thing ive heard in a while


I don't see what's not genocidal about putting an end to a race you are so desperate to kill off that you chase it across the entire ocean and kill everyone who helps them in your way (darkspear Trolls)
12/08/2018 19:51Posted by Ahtuno
12/08/2018 19:40Posted by Waygos
During the third war the orcs traveled to kalimdor
and then a warmonger admiral chased them
then he got killed

why whining ? nobody told him to chase the orcs to another continent
the alliance deserve what happened


Acting like the Admiral was a genocidal maniac for no reason whatsoever is the most lorelet thing ive heard in a while


Especially since Sylvanas, too, committed genocide just recently. As stated by the writers themsevles.
12/08/2018 19:40Posted by Waygos
During the third war the orcs traveled to kalimdor
and then a warmonger admiral chased them
then he got killed

why whining ? nobody told him to chase the orcs to another continent
the alliance deserve what happened


He was sure that orcs had inprisoned his daughter etc etc. and was alround just a big misunderstanding anyway, he saw the Hordes as the savages they were, even back then they werent really the holy people just seeking homeland in Azeroth because their world got !@#$ed over. They always seeked to conquer Azeroth by violence not just engage in peaceful talks with the Alliance and seek home.
12/08/2018 19:57Posted by Furerayumi
12/08/2018 19:40Posted by Waygos
During the third war the orcs traveled to kalimdor
and then a warmonger admiral chased them
then he got killed

why whining ? nobody told him to chase the orcs to another continent
the alliance deserve what happened


He was sure that orcs had inprisoned his daughter etc etc. and was alround just a big misunderstanding anyway, he saw the Hordes as the savages they were, even back then they werent really the holy people just seeking homeland in Azeroth because their world got !@#$ed over. They always seeked to conquer Azeroth by violence not just engage in peaceful talks with the Alliance and seek home.
*Sips tea*
12/08/2018 19:57Posted by Furerayumi
He was sure that orcs had inprisoned his daughter etc etc.


He was afraid that Jaina would die. He became paranoid as a result of his beloved son and heir being burned to a crisp by the orcs. The orcs had captured Alexstrasza, the ancient Life-binder, and were torturing her, forcing her to breed more red dragons to be used for war purposes.

he saw the Hordes as the savages they were

Yes, how do you call a people that builds a road out of the shattered remains of innocents?

even back then they werent really the holy people just seeking homeland in Azeroth because their world got !@#$ed over. They always seeked to conquer Azeroth by violence not just engage in peaceful talks with the Alliance and seek home.


Yes, exactly. Perhaps, if they had tried diplomacy with stormwindians instead of blind violence, the heinous bloodshed would have been avoided.
12/08/2018 19:40Posted by Waygos
During the third war the orcs traveled to kalimdor
and then a warmonger admiral chased them
then he got killed

why whining ? nobody told him to chase the orcs to another continent
the alliance deserve what happened
The Horde hyprocrisy at work, once again!

"We don't deserve to be dismantled! It was Garrosh!"

Garrithos is a prick when left as the last leader in Lordeanon: "See this why we are at war with the Alliance!"

Admiral Proudmoree who left the Alliance: "Yep Alliance their fault!"

Whenever a Horde member does something bad it's always that one person, but an Alliance leader says something bad and it's gets blamed on everybody! The orcs stole ships and plundred villages after escaping from their POW camps. So that didn't work in their favour aswell with Daelin.
12/08/2018 20:06Posted by Arctur
Yes, how do you call a people that builds a road out of the shattered remains of innocents?
Rather smart tbh.

What else would they do with the shattered remains? :O
I agree let the Alliance get hit with the evil stick and lose leaders instead of us.
12/08/2018 19:16Posted by Furerayumi
Also Malfurion is now gravely wounded by Saurfangs dishonorable blow.


Last time I saw Malfurion, in Stormwind keep after handing in the Alliance BfL quest, he was alive and well at full HP.

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