Drain Life 40k/s?

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Can we remove this retarded crap? How did this even make it to live?
maybe blizzard thought that even average lowbie paladin would know how to press HoJ / kick

oh how were they wrong
29/10/2018 16:56Posted by Whisperer
maybe blizzard thought that even average lowbie paladin would know how to press HoJ / kick

oh how were they wrong


nono i see enemy i hoj for no reason!

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it is pretty bs but i dont think u can be mad at warlocks right now
29/10/2018 16:56Posted by Whisperer
maybe blizzard thought that even average lowbie paladin would know how to press HoJ / kick


I'm not getting carried by a firemage and sin rogue sorry.
Same way all the other triple trait stacking problems did... they didn't consider pvp.
All the "one shot" traits are an absolute disaster, it's not fun to play around and it's not fun to play against.

Imagine playing affliction warlock and your gameplay revolves around waiting for a buff to reach 100 stacks, then bait the enemy kicks/stuns out and hope you can kill someone in your short window... If they survived it then you're back to waiting for the next 100 stack drain. Meanwhile the enemy team needs to constantly check your stacks, save trinket + interrupt for it and play a slow game just waiting for you to make a move. Then you get hit by a fear around a pillar with the drain life ticking on you, and before you can make it around the corner and stop the drain you've already died, woaaahh what fun gameplay that was!

PvP in BFA is a complete joke, they were reaching something decent in Legion with templates, just needed to add customization and such..... and then threw everything away and started from scratch.
29/10/2018 18:35Posted by Slimp
All the "one shot" traits are an absolute disaster, it's not fun to play around and it's not fun to play against.

Imagine playing affliction warlock and your gameplay revolves around waiting for a buff to reach 100 stacks, then bait the enemy kicks/stuns out and hope you can kill someone in your short window... If they survived it then you're back to waiting for the next 100 stack drain. Meanwhile the enemy team needs to constantly check your stacks, save trinket + interrupt for it and play a slow game just waiting for you to make a move. Then you get hit by a fear around a pillar with the drain life ticking on you, and before you can make it around the corner and stop the drain you've already died, woaaahh what fun gameplay that was!

PvP in BFA is a complete joke, they were reaching something decent in Legion with templates, just needed to add customization and such..... and then threw everything away and started from scratch.
Well, the bad part about Legion was definitely not the templates (even though they were bad too).

*cough* #classfantasy *cough*
29/10/2018 19:12Posted by Ridtur
Well, the bad part about Legion was definitely not the templates (even though they were bad too).

Templates weren't bad.

People say "templates are bad, I couldn't choose what stat to go for blablabla"
but that's not really argument against templates.

Templates are good idea, they just were done badly.
You should've gotten a way how to customize stats and it'd be fine.
It's much more bull!@#$ now when it's replaced with scaling that's working much worse because of combination with azerite traits.
29/10/2018 16:56Posted by Whisperer
maybe blizzard thought that even average lowbie paladin would know how to press HoJ / kick

oh how were they wrong


Reflect
Wall
Drain Life
Win
29/10/2018 21:45Posted by Zeleik
29/10/2018 16:56Posted by Whisperer
maybe blizzard thought that even average lowbie paladin would know how to press HoJ / kick

oh how were they wrong


Reflect
Wall
Drain Life
Win


physical cc or ae cc
channel cast interrupted
lose
29/10/2018 21:50Posted by Fleecee
29/10/2018 21:45Posted by Zeleik
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Reflect
Wall
Drain Life
Win


physical cc or ae cc
channel cast interrupted
lose


BoP/Sac

Try again.
Yea, in this worst case scenario, you won't be able to afk Warlock and unfortunately you'd need to pop a defensive.
29/10/2018 21:53Posted by Zeleik
29/10/2018 21:50Posted by Fleecee
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physical cc or ae cc
channel cast interrupted
lose


BoP/Sac

Try again.
how is sac gonna help you cast?
1. It's a repost https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17624613040?page=1

2. Our class is a joke and the design is horrible there are no such words to describe how horrible it is. The talent is an absolute joke but it is the only chance to so something in arenas. Playing around it is disgustingly boring and has nothing to do with actual gameplay but there is that one way to score a win. Even though not many warlocks can pull it off as you see on ladder and most warlocks just refuse to play PvP in the current state, as I do.

That said, don't hate too much on us we are already suffering immense pain under the stupidity of someone out there.
29/10/2018 20:04Posted by Whisperer
29/10/2018 19:12Posted by Ridtur
Well, the bad part about Legion was definitely not the templates (even though they were bad too).

Templates weren't bad.

People say "templates are bad, I couldn't choose what stat to go for blablabla"
but that's not really argument against templates.

Templates are good idea, they just were done badly.
You should've gotten a way how to customize stats and it'd be fine.
It's much more bull!@#$ now when it's replaced with scaling that's working much worse because of combination with azerite traits.
Templates were a horrible idea from start to finish. It's a system that is almost impossible to convey to a player (same as this current scaling, although the current scaling is even harder to convey). Additionally it allowed Blizzard to say "well who cares about PvP vendors - gear doesnt really matter anyway, also we'll make PvP gear drop rates abysmal, because we can't have PvP gear being better or easier to obtain than PvE at any level of the game.".

They should just go with WoD + PvP ilvls system + disabling azerite traits and PvE trinkets in PvP. It's by far the most easy system to convey to players.
Complaining about warlock in their current state, is in bad taste.

Its like complaining about a vagabond on the corner begging for change.

Just let them be, and be happy you aren't them.
29/10/2018 21:45Posted by Zeleik
29/10/2018 16:56Posted by Whisperer
maybe blizzard thought that even average lowbie paladin would know how to press HoJ / kick

oh how were they wrong


Reflect
Wall
Drain Life
Win


Frost DK has AoE Blind and Unholy DK has pet stun.
failing to interrupt Drain Life and dying to it as DK is a choice
30/10/2018 07:10Posted by Whisperer
29/10/2018 21:45Posted by Zeleik
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Reflect
Wall
Drain Life
Win


Frost DK has AoE Blind and Unholy DK has pet stun.
failing to interrupt Drain Life and dying to it as DK is a choice


Playing DK is a choice.

It's not the correct one by any means.

If you save everything for the Drain, you leave his teammates to wreak havoc, which are usually moonkins/mages or another drain wlock.
29/10/2018 21:53Posted by Zeleik
29/10/2018 21:50Posted by Fleecee
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physical cc or ae cc
channel cast interrupted
lose


BoP/Sac

Try again.


BLINDING LIGHT.

Sit.
I don't think there is single class that cannot counter disrupt Drain Life.
Even when he's having all his defensives overlapped (reflect, BoP, resolve) you should still be able to disrupt it.

Possibly the only class having issue with it is actually warlock...

30/10/2018 10:03Posted by Zeleik
If you save everything for the Drain, you leave his teammates to wreak havoc, which are usually moonkins/mages or another drain wlock.

yea, well, his teammates used BoP, reflect and Resolve to pull off one ofensive ability and here you go crying that you will die if you don't press your CC
well, yes, you will die apparently if you decide not to counter enemy abilities nor to press defensives
but that's more of you being garbage than warlock being broken

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