Blizzard: “More mobile titles planned for all our IPs”

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07/11/2018 11:03Posted by Amalei
They are still making d4, they have not scrapped that and decided on this instead. They also did not scrap a full pc version over this, that never existed.


The "leaked" news hit public only after the disaster with diablo immortal. And during QnA Cheng said that there are no plans atm for diablo 4. So with the info at our disposal, diablo immortal felt very much like a replacement.

I and prolly alot of diablo fans would be very satisfied with diablo immortal announcement with the teaser of diablo 4 at the end. But with the removal of that teaser they pretty much said !@#$ YOU ALL WE DONT CARE ABOUT YOU. Blizzard acted abit strange. They thought fans would be thrilled with w/e they throw at them. Hope they learned from this experience.

Also there we're plenty of chances to come clean. During QnA when the guy asked whether it was a joke, they simply could've responded with "No, but there is a pc game in the works" instead of snarky comments of "dont you have a phone". Which in my opinion is not a response you give to disappointed fan who spent hundreds of dollars to watch the announcement.
07/11/2018 11:56Posted by Chithingy
07/11/2018 11:03Posted by Amalei
They are still making d4, they have not scrapped that and decided on this instead. They also did not scrap a full pc version over this, that never existed.


The "leaked" news hit public only after the disaster with diablo immortal. And during QnA Cheng said that there are no plans atm for diablo 4. So with the info at our disposal, diablo immortal felt very much like a replacement.

I and prolly alot of diablo fans would be very satisfied with diablo immortal announcement with the teaser of diablo 4 at the end. But with the removal of that teaser they pretty much said !@#$ YOU ALL WE DONT CARE ABOUT YOU. Blizzard acted abit strange. They thought fans would be thrilled with w/e they throw at them. Hope they learned from this experience.

Also there we're plenty of chances to come clean. During QnA when the guy asked whether it was a joke, they simply could've responded with "No, but there is a pc game in the works" instead of snarky comments of "dont you have a phone". Which in my opinion is not a response you give to disappointed fan who spent hundreds of dollars to watch the announcement.


https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/22549433

They said themselves that they would not be announcing it as it was not ready. It is not their fault that the community cannot read.

Edit: No they did not mention it by name, but it was heavily implied and they did their best without actually anniuncing the game on a random blog post about blizzcon.
Come on blizzard! Make it happen!
I want WoW mobile, Overwatch mobile, etc.
Never blame the community for a PR disaster. So comments like 'it's not their fault the community cannot read' are not constructive at all. It's never a good idea to slap your fanbase in the face. All they'd had to do was announce SOMETHING. It doesn't matter that it wasn't ready yet, even a logo would've sufficed.
I hate everything about mobile games. They are designed for people who do not like games or for people who cannot afford console or PC.

Then they try to manipulate those people in spending as much money as possible.

At the cost of gameplay usually.

This is like your favorite casino suddenly starts to re-focus more on adding more and more slot machines because those make more money from addicts than poker, while all their fans actually play poker.

Ugh. I already can''t play anything Ubisoft and EA puts out (too old for that type of gaming), and now blizzard tries to join them.
07/11/2018 12:40Posted by Trmon
At the cost of gameplay usually.

But that doesn't seem to be the case here.

People are a bit blinded with anger and frustration right now, so it's understandable, but still, Diablo Immortal does carry the promise of a Blizzard quality, triple A game experience.

And in many ways it digs right into what people want.

It's an MMO world. It uses phasing like in WoW, and each zone can have ~30 players. The instances have dynamic scaling like WoW, and can be for 1-4 players.
The outdoor monsters respawn, the instanced ones do not.
The instance bosses are quite akin to WoW dungeon bosses, requiring strategies and having telegraphed attacks and mechanics.
The zones (8 of them) have randomization as Diablo is known for, so the resplendent chest you found next to a road one day won't necessarily be there the next day.
The gameplay and combat is straight out of Diablo III.
And it keeps the isometric view and the art style is as recognisable as any Blizzard game.

I think when some time has passed and people have voiced their frustrations and calmed down a bit, then they're going to be intrigued.

The game has all the ingredients fans have asked for in a new Diablo game.

I don't think many people will have the willpower or conviction to stay away just because it's on mobile. If it's a good game, then people will play it. And to me this looks like a good game.
06/11/2018 13:34Posted by Tèsla
06/11/2018 13:30Posted by Kelirohn
So what? Is it bad? I really like hearthstone on moble and looking forward for diablo.


Arent exactly the same thing of game. But let's see.
Indeed. Hearthstone is much more for mobile, but anyway. I just want a game I can play casually on the go or if my pc is not available. Yet Diablo Immortal is not a replacement for D4.
07/11/2018 12:35Posted by Adarra
Never blame the community for a PR disaster. So comments like 'it's not their fault the community cannot read' are not constructive at all. It's never a good idea to slap your fanbase in the face. All they'd had to do was announce SOMETHING. It doesn't matter that it wasn't ready yet, even a logo would've sufficed.


My apologies, no that wasn't a constructive way of putting it. Let me try to be less mean. The point still stands. They put up that post so that people wouldn't get their expectations up about ANY announcement of D4 at blizzcon, it also pretty much confirm its existence (in response to the leaked info only coming out after as the poster I quoted said). People knew that it existed. Nobody was slapped in the face, they were politely informed about what was going to happen. It would be rather anticlimactic and they would likely have got a lot of hate for not giving more info if all they said was "yes it exists", especially considering it was fairly clear that it did already.

Blizzard straight up said nothing (not even a clip) about it was coming. This is not a PR nightmare of their creation, they did not want to release anything because it is not in a state where anything can be, that is fair. The community created its own expectations and has been fueling the fire with falsehoods ever since.

All I am saying is that they warned u not to get excited. If this had been any other company, this would not be a problem. If Apple had decided not to announce the new iPhone at a convention and instead focused on smaller/different projects the entire community would not boo them offstage and demand iPhone, they would be reasonable and realize "hey, maybe it's not ready yet, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist".

All I am suggesting is that it is beinbg blown way out of proportion, people should at least attempt to be a little more reasonable here.
But that doesn't seem to be the case here.

People are a bit blinded with anger and frustration right now, so it's understandable, but still, Diablo Immortal does carry the promise of a Blizzard quality, triple A game experience.


That is a bit naive. Look at what kind of mobile games EA puts out. That is what makes money and I do not see any reason why blizzard games would be any better.

Polished for a mobile game? Maybe. But still P2W, full with microtransactions and shallow experience compared to their console/PC games.
07/11/2018 13:20Posted by Trmon
But that doesn't seem to be the case here.

People are a bit blinded with anger and frustration right now, so it's understandable, but still, Diablo Immortal does carry the promise of a Blizzard quality, triple A game experience.


That is a bit naive. Look at what kind of mobile games EA puts out. That is what makes money and I do not see any reason why blizzard games would be any better.

Polished for a mobile game? Maybe. But still P2W, full with microtransactions and shallow experience compared to their console/PC games.


This is kinda where being owned by Activision may actually come in handy. They happen to also own King games, yes, the games are mostly more simplistic, but they aren't nearly as full of micro transactions as most. Not saying there are none, that is the nature of mobile, but all their games are perfectly playable without spending a cent.
07/11/2018 13:20Posted by Trmon
That is a bit naive. Look at what kind of mobile games EA puts out. That is what makes money and I do not see any reason why blizzard games would be any better.

Personally I hold Blizzard to a higher standard of quality than EA, and I base that on their history. Blizzard's reputation for high-quality gaming experiences hasn't come out of no-where. And I don't think EA ever prided themselves on something similar, so the comparison doesn't strike me as relevant.
07/11/2018 13:20Posted by Trmon
Polished for a mobile game? Maybe. But still P2W, full with microtransactions and shallow experience compared to their console/PC games.

I strongly doubt it will be P2W. It will probably have microtransactions – just about all Blizzard games have that these days anyway.
But all that will be revealed in time, right now it's just speculation. The fans will think the best and the haters will think the worst :P
04/11/2018 19:19Posted by Liri
Bye.


Oh boi... rest assured i'm out.. play this $%& of a game yourselves..
not really without reason..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOVfw5O5c1g

2:09 - 8:30

blizzard are going all in on mobile you can see the greed on his face
07/11/2018 14:57Posted by Pixelbear
not really without reason..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOVfw5O5c1g

2:09 - 8:30

blizzard are going all in on mobile you can see the greed on his face


Darth it's for the asian market.
07/11/2018 15:00Posted by Tèsla
07/11/2018 14:57Posted by Pixelbear
not really without reason..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOVfw5O5c1g

2:09 - 8:30

blizzard are going all in on mobile you can see the greed on his face


Darth it's for the asian market.


you are lying if you think that he even says it himself, its for both market do yourself a favor and watch it.

i think we can kiss goodbye to ever seeing a wow 2 on pc if this guy is speaking for all ip's
@Jito I can't believe how naive you can be... It will be fine because it's Blizzard? Look at the state wow is in.. numbers are in the toilet.. and you still give them any credit? Also you're praising how awesome diablo is and that it's everything the fans asked for..

Well guess what it doesn't have storyline, you need 1100€ phone/tablet to run it, even if you play it, it would be on public transportation or in the bathroom, and even if your phone runs it, you cant see !@#$ because UI on a 5 inch phone takes up 2/3 of a screen.

And with all the anger going on the web, the 1st demand of playerbase is that it's played on PC/console (hardly a game that gives players all they ever wanted)

Also from QnA, a guy asked about having diablo 2 skill tree back, and all i heard was alot of moaning and staggering from devs trying to hide the fact that diablo 2 skill tree, when you actually had to plan char development from lvl 1, is apparently not their cup of tea? (which is surprising because thats one of the reasons diablo 2 was so popular)

What is so fascinating about this game that you're so passionately defending it?

EDIT: also what i personally miss even in d3 is the special type of events like uber tristram or uber diablo.. (to be clear not the current state of those where you can solo it but the old one where you needed tons of specific specd chars to deal with the bosses)
With my english knowledge Watching entirely an english video for 20 mins is worse than levelling an alt without heirlooms from 0 to 120. I trust in your judgement.
I doubt anyway that a wow 2 will be vere be released.
07/11/2018 15:33Posted by Chithingy
What is so fascinating about this game that you're so passionately defending it?

For me personally?

My gaming compass looks something like this:

A strong focus on gameplay.
A high quality, polished product in all areas of design and production.
An easy to learn, difficult to master design.
A distinct art style.
Amazing controls.
Post-release support and development.
A lore rich world setting.
A rich soundtrack and impressive sound design.
Emphasis on longevity and replayability.
Multiplayer and community-building.
Complimentary products (novels, comics, toys, etc.).
Amazing cinematics.
Compelling progression-oriented game systems.
Popular and well-recieved by other gamers.

That's what I seek in those games I want to seriously commit myself to.
And the more I can identify in a game of the above, the more certain I am that I will love that particular game. It just so happens that Blizzard's games tend to score high on almost all of those parameters, which is probably why I play and love all their games.

And Diablo Immortal looks to score high on a lot of the parameters as well, so I'm hopeful. I won't say it's going to be the best game ever, but from what I've seen so far, I like it.
distinct art style
rich soundtrack and impressive sound design
amazing cinematics

You truly believe you can achieve that playing on a phone? On a phone you won't see any details that would dazzle you on a big screen. Rich soundtracks? Unless you hook your phone up to some decent speakers, the sound will be terrible. Amazing cinematics? same sh1t as with art. You wont see any detail on a phone. Unless you plan to watch them again later on PC on youtube. Not to mention controls gonna cover half the screen so you won't see any detail anyway.

amazing controls

Now i don't know how good those on screen joysticks are, but with all the animation going on i doubt it'll work smoothly

Now i have a few questions for you.
Where you gonna play it? during classes? sitting on a bed squinting your eyes? Because if any1 ever told you looking at a big screen is bad? Small screen is even worse. You'll need to look away from the phone every 2 min to relax the eyes.
Power management? You gonna carry a car battery everywhere you go? because a game as demanding as diablo with all the animations is gonna drain your mobile in 30min or less.
Hardware? because not many phones have GPU capabilities to run it unless you want 1cm x 1cm pixels

You know why games like angry birds, temple run or w/e it is and puzzle games are popular on a phone? they're simple and you can play them anywhere. If you gonna play progression dungeon on train trying to hack the fck out of the boss ppl gonna think you're having a stroke.

And if they make the game managable so all the questions i just asked arent a problem.... The game will have no depth, animations will be lacking and you gonna hate it for that. There are games like diablo on app store already. You know what they're like? a knight having a stick in his hand and hitting the "demon" every 3 sec. Animation is grainy (TL:DR it looks closer to runescape than what gameplay video showed us)

PS: you might wanna buy yourself some gloves so you know.. battery wont peel your skin off
If WoW goes to mobile, I'm out.

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