Newbie seeking help

Role-Playing
Greetings fellow adventurers of Azeroth!

I've played WoW on and off since Cataclysm but I've never really tried role-playing before. After some time with D&D IRL however, I have to say I enjoy it very much and thought I'd give it a shot in WoW as well. So, I have some questions.
    Are there strict rules for role-playing or is anything that is allowed by the engine fair play?
    Are there good sources where one can look up the finer details of lore (e.g. the name of that one charachter you forgot etc.)?
    How is levelling incorporated into the experience? Is it an essential part or is it the same as on "normal" realms (i.e. the real game starts on max. level)? Or is it up to the player?

This is what comes to mind off the top of my head. Looking forward to seeing your answers.

Thanks in advance.
Hey-yo, glad to hear you've got some interest in RP! I'll try to give some answers to the questions:

The rules: Truth be told it can vary a bit - depending on the server you're on, the guild you're in, etc. But generally this is something you get a grasp on very quickly.

Good sources for lore: https://wow.gamepedia.com/Wowpedia

Levelling incorporated into the experience: Not really. At most it just limits what events you can do - sometimes people would like you to level a bit before joining their guild to see that you're actually serious about your character.

I'm sure others can fill you in with more details, but I think this should give you a general idea! If you have more questions, ask ahead!
You made a great choice, Lockret!

There are no strict laws on roleplay - in fact they vary greatly between servers and people alike. The closest we have to rules are simply to. 1. Try to stick to the lore as best as possible. 2. Don't control others' characters. 3. Use proper grammar and sentence structure. Even the validity of three tips can vary based on group, but stick to them and you should have a good base to start from.

And on the topic of levels; no, levels don't necessarily have any impact on your roleplay. Your character can be max level and you can still roleplay a frail flowerpicker, or you can be level 1 and roleplay an 8ft tall brawler type character. Levels mainly just limit the tools/options/costumes you can use.
06/11/2018 13:08Posted by Lockret
I've played WoW on and off since Cataclysm but I've never really tried role-playing before. After some time with D&D IRL however, I have to say I enjoy it very much and thought I'd give it a shot in WoW as well. So, I have some questions.


Good call, played D&D since I was 12. Yeah...long time ago, that was 1st Edition, then got into LARP at 18...back in the days when your cloak was your mums curtains. Didn't even get into WoW till I was 30...

06/11/2018 13:08Posted by Lockret
Are there strict rules for role-playing or is anything that is allowed by the engine fair play?


Thats actually a really good question, and one not often asked. Its also a tricky one. I'm going to answer that using the only frame of reference I have, and can authoritatively speak on, which is my own character.

He's a 1,404 (Next Saturday) Elf. He's been Alliance, he's now Horde. He did not do the following things:
Kill Illidan or Kil'jaeden at Sunwell Plateau.
Kill Arthas.
Kill Deathwing.
Kill the Thunder King
Kill Gul'dan

'The Hero' did those things, Brigante did not. Don't claim to have done these things, that is a bad thing in RP.

However Brigante -Was-
One of the Dragonhawk riders who escorts the Player character Hero as they do the Sunwell Bombing mission in TBC
One of the Dragonhawk riders who is fighting desperate battle in Icecrown against Frostwyrms as 'The Hero' advances on Icecrown Citadel.
In the Vale, when Garrosh did his worst, it was horrible, He was not involved in it, he did not know, but it set his heart to fury...
A leader of Dragonhawk Riders who led a unit of fliers on Thunder Isle against the Thunder King's Skyscreamers, the previous unit (The Blood Hawks) was wiped out by his Lightning Weapons. it was a horrible war, a messy one
A Horde Officer who made pacts with the Arrakoa about how they could fly in Draenor.
A Horde Wing Commander who led his fliers in a desperate attempt to bring down one of the Legion's Netherships.

See what I mean? At every expansion you can have done something 'heroic' without having to be the 'Hero'

You're playing a character in the setting, you are not playing 'The Hero'

Equally you are not best mates with major Lore characters. Brigante has met none of the Alliance Leaders, well, possibly Alleria, they were both Ranger Captains. He has likely met Nathanos, they were both Farstriders. Sylvanas probably pinned a medal on him in life, she was the Ranger General after all. He was once in the same room as Vol'jin. Vol'jin looked at him briefly. Lor'themar Theron spoke two words to him once, years ago.

You don't know the Lore Characters, they are like, the height of their races people, the leaders, this is saying "I once had a chat with the Prime Minister" or "I once hugged Prince Harry" (Ironically I once did the former, and have a dear friend who did the latter, but you get the point)

You can be -important-. I mean Brigante is important, He is a Ranger-Captain of Quel'thalas. Doesn't mean that him and Lor'themar meet up for a cup of tea every wednesday and a chat.

So be realistic with your character.

06/11/2018 13:08Posted by Lockret
Are there good sources where one can look up the finer details of lore (e.g. the name of that one charachter you forgot etc.)?


I would generally say, trust Wowpedia/Gamepedia as a source. They always have links, Wowwiki however can be updated by anyone who feels like it, without needing proof. I'd honestly go with Wowpedia in that regard.

06/11/2018 13:08Posted by Lockret
How is levelling incorporated into the experience? Is it an essential part or is it the same as on "normal" realms (i.e. the real game starts on max. level)? Or is it up to the player?


You can start Roleplaying at level 1 if you like. I mean your characters clothing will be basic, but if you're playing a good character then go for it. Level 120 will give you more options (As you can run old content for Transmogs). I never judge a character when I RP with them based on their level. I mean look at my avatar (Assuming you read this before later tonight, I have to dress in stern military gear then) He's wearing a sleeveless T-Shirt, trousers, boots and has a knife. Why? Because he was lounging around in Silvermoon. He's not going to be armoured up to the max, carrying his meanest weapons. he was going to the pub, with a few mates, to chatter. Why would he do that?

Wear the costume that makes sense, and if that's limited by level, then heck, so be it. Do what you can.

And remember, especially in game, there is nothing wrong with whispering someone and going "I'm really new to RP, so any tips and pointers are gratefully received" Its a collaborative hobby, and most people will want to help, so...don't feel bad about asking for the help?
Thanks for the responses everyone!

It's good to know that many of my D&D experiences can be called upon.

06/11/2018 13:31Posted by Turidas
Good sources for lore: https://wow.gamepedia.com/Wowpedia

Saved it for later use, thank you. :)

09/11/2018 13:17Posted by Zirahael
There are no strict laws on roleplay - in fact they vary greatly between servers and people alike. The closest we have to rules are simply to. 1. Try to stick to the lore as best as possible. 2. Don't control others' characters. 3. Use proper grammar and sentence structure. Even the validity of three tips can vary based on group, but stick to them and you should have a good base to start from.

When I started D&D with friends, this was also the advice the GM gave us (although he was a bit relaxed on the lore part).

Good call, played D&D since I was 12. Yeah...long time ago, that was 1st Edition, then got into LARP at 18...back in the days when your cloak was your mums curtains. Didn't even get into WoW till I was 30...

Wow... hats off to you, I started with 3.5 and I now try to convince my friends to switch over to 5e . :D

He did not do the following things:
Kill Illidan or Kil'jaeden at Sunwell Plateau.
Kill Arthas.
Kill Deathwing.
Kill the Thunder King
Kill Gul'dan

'The Hero' did those things, Brigante did not. Don't claim to have done these things, that is a bad thing in RP.

So, it's more of an "average Joe/unsung hero" type of thing.

You don't know the Lore Characters, they are like, the height of their races people, the leaders, this is saying "I once had a chat with the Prime Minister" or "I once hugged Prince Harry" (Ironically I once did the former, and have a dear friend who did the latter, but you get the point)

So, if I made e.g. a void elf, is it acceptable to say that they got help from Alleria and Umbric to start their life in the Alliance? E.g. Alleria pulled a few strings so the charachter has some lodging, Umbric provided them with some money etc.

Thank you all very much!
09/11/2018 18:57Posted by Lockret
So, it's more of an "average Joe/unsung hero" type of thing.


Not necessarily, you can still be a big hero, just it is generally bad form to say that you killed Arthas. Now saying you were one of the soldiers who stormed Icecrown is fine, and so its not so much 'unsung' as 'I was there'. Like I say, Brigante was on Quel'danas when Kil'jaden was slain, but he didn't do it himself, he was in Icecrown when Arthas fell, but didn't do it himself.

Your character can (and likely will) have their own war stories to tell of their past, in fact that's generally a really good way to go about building your background.

"Where was I when...."
The Black Portal Opened? At the time of the Second War? When people went through the Dark Portal to stop Mad prince Kael'thas, and Illidan? When the armies sailed north, to finish Arthas? When the world itself was rent asunder by the Cataclysm?

You get the idea. Using the major events of the expansions is not a bad way to start building your characters backstory. I mean why not, Real life works that way, have you ever heard the phrase "Everybody remembers where they were when Kennedy was shot" Important events do that. I remember exactly where I was, when 9/11 happened. I remember exactly where I was, when the London 7/7 attacks happened.

We remember important events that happen (Especially the tragic and bad ones) even though we are not necessarily directly involved. So that might be an idea, think of the big tragedies (Which lets face it, is pretty much every expansion!) and what your character was doing at the time.

09/11/2018 18:57Posted by Lockret
So, if I made e.g. a void elf, is it acceptable to say that they got help from Alleria and Umbric to start their life in the Alliance? E.g. Alleria pulled a few strings so the charachter has some lodging, Umbric provided them with some money etc.


Well, Void Elves is a special case, I mean there are so few of them in lore, that they probably -do- all know each other. Given they were all the few survivors of a unique magical experiment gone wrong, directly rescued by Alleria in person, then what you describe above is perfectly plausible. For many races not so plausible, but Void Elves, definitely. I mean you were a disciple of Magister Umbrics, you -have- met him, and you were personally saved by Alleria, you -have- met her.

So saying they helped you out settling in Stormwind is not so unrealistic. I mean they probably -did-.

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