What is all the negative remarks about autism?

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Oer sounds like the kind of dude who's written a 400 page manifesto about how women and brown people need to be put in their place, and he edits it in between jacking his micro hog to cartoon chicks.
Hm dont wanna point the obvious... but do you consider being autistic as something positive?

Should autism be used as an "insult"? Probably not (at least not in my opinion) but acting all surprised to why is used as an insult is disingenuous at best.
Ah, yeah.

I've seen that so many times and I always question it.

''What did that guy do that was autistic?''

As someone with it, it's kinda annoying to see, but no point in arguing with these no brains. Just forget about it and put 'em on ignore if it bothers you.

It's the insult that's ''in'' now.
07/10/2018 13:34Posted by Oer
07/10/2018 11:38Posted by Nimrhys
Holy moly on a stick is this guy full of himself and in his own little world. I ran out of popcorn, toodles.


Ofc.. throw some more dirt on me, without adding any argument. By all means, stick to your idiotic pc lies.
I do not live in 'my own little world' kid. But ofc you will not seek any debate, bc you know you'll lose. Feminism was a lie from the start. Women in the west were never oppressed by men. And they had their own power. Now they have double the power, which is why the west is on the brink of collapse.
Your pc views are already outdated. Feminism is dead. Globalism is dead. There is no saving it and as a cherry on top; it is your own doing.


Lol are you assuming my gender from my avatar picture and then attacking said assumption with an anti-feminist arguement, which is a completely unrelated topic to this thread? I was wrong, I got more popcorn.
Oh this did make me laugh I happen to have mild Aspergers myself why because it is proof that some people are indeed intimidated by the condition in this game and I can give a good example of one such experience.

A couple of years ago I was in a guild not the present one now and it was my old main just to be clear and I did well in it got to officer rank and actually contributed to it well. And for the most part conducted myself in a social and friendly manner.

But things did become sour with the guild leader who's attitude and general bias towards people who sucked up to her was something I could not ignore also let it be noted some of her other officers and people above me in rank put questionable things on the guild message of the day option as well and I began to question the intent and direction of the guild and where it was headed.

They where well aware of me having the condition and it led to me standing ground on one or more occasions and they did not like it I also was kicked from the guild by her when I went off line one night to have a bath. I was pretty incensed and realized at that point that it was because I had become a viable and potent threat to her leadership as I had the spine to question her actions and her behaviour towards me and also that of her other officers.

This in turn meant things got hostile in the game between us and numerous tickets back and forth to Blizzard. I was given a 3hr slap on the wrist because I had the nerve to confront her in game in person in public. When this happened I actually went off the game and had a nap and only got the notification when I came back on and laughed my !@# off.

But then things got stupid she cried wolf to the police. Came home one night and found one of them waiting for me with a PIN notice I explained myself in a calm rational manner and he actually seemed sympathetic to me when I gave my account of events after making it clear I was on the spectrum and left me with the notice.

I continued to play the game. Because of this course of action I was compelled to warn people on here and the forums obviously under a different alt and posted a long no naming warning it was up for one day and then was deleted on my request some of her underlings tried on alts to attack me and berate me over it but the thing that really made me angry than all of this crap she had already put me through was going the leader of another guild and getting me kicked from it within 24hrs of joining and I am certain she made some unfair and unforgiven comments on the fact my AS made me a difficult person to manage.

So yes from a personal experience people using Autism as an insult it's obvious to me why it's because some us who have it have the spine and the guts to see things how they really are in some social situations and call people out for it and we also tell the truth without sugar coating it that in itself is intimidating to people who do not get the condition or are intimidated by the intelligence that is shown in it as well. I have no regrets at all for all of the above happening because I showed someone's true colours and showed them for the control freak they are.

This person is someone if I am asked by players about her guild that I tell them to avoid it and not join she is someone with issues about being questioned about leadership and how she runs it. It is more like a cult and anyone with Autism would be best avoiding it.

I get why people try to insult me about my condition but to be honest as I am nearing 40 years of age I really don't give a damn because this incident taught me having what I have is not bad thing it gives me the balls and nerve to question and in some cases correct the actions of others.

Those lower themselves with such insults in my view perhaps need to take a long hard look at themselves and see what really makes the insecure.

Sorry for wall of text but this post brought the advocate on AS out in me.
07/10/2018 10:53Posted by Oer
07/10/2018 04:33Posted by Mussy
I think you mentioned earlier that there is no such thing as autism or something in that direction, and every trait of it influenced by external factors.

Question: What about biological traits which are there from birth? For example, I am sensitivte to light and sound, temperatures and have very bad body motor functions, I can't play soccer or any team sport.

How do this traits which are pretty common among autistic people manifest themselves by environmental factors?

No, i didnt say there is no autism. I said there is no asperger. I used it in that reaction bc it was fun, to me.
And i said its external factors for all the newly added disorders, so incl asperger.

About your Q:
Those traits are partly due to the main aspect autism has as a symptom; a lack of communication with others and an overload on their brain. This immediately results in isolation. Which in turn leads to bad motor function, bc most movement is invoked by others. (light, sound and temp sensitivity are not symptoms of asperger). The bad motor function is also not very common for asperger, but i believe they were in the cluster asperger first described.
As i said, it is a direct result of not seeking or even disliking company and thus also peer pressure/competativeness, which are part of all sports. Not doing sports, makes you bad at sports. And vice versa.

The external factor for this (mind you; solely talking about asperger), is a rapidly changing society, a faster/more hectic society, a society that continuously seeks your attention with lights and sounds, etc.
And then mothers who more often raise chidren alone and not stimulating specific personality traits and activities and telling children they are perfect as they are. Men are needed in raising children, specially boys. And vice versa.

Among other things... bc it is quite big.


My answer to this is anecdotal ofc, but I was diagnosed with asperger (which is now called autism specter disorder) at the age of 16. I had all the traits when I was born. And I didn't willing isolate myself from people. I thought during primary school etc that I was like everyone else, I struggled but I thought the struggle was normal.

So for me I am quite sure that traits we just spoke was not a result of isolation, because I was not, even though at school I was at the library reading, instead of playing with others, most of the time, when home though, I was playing with others, thought I didn't fit in with them

Seems to me you are putting the cart before the horse.
06/10/2018 01:25Posted by Mussy
Hi there. It might not come as a surprise to people by the title that I am diagnosed with autism. And from that perspective it made me wonder why I see people mentioning autism from time to time as a kind of insulting remark.


I haven't read the entire thread yet but I'll probably do my best to explain the whole "autism" thing that the internet references.

So the autism meme has a lot of different things. There's the "autistic screeching" one, where someone just freaks out (regardless of whether they're autistic or not).

Then there's the one where autistic people are meant to have the tenacity and perseverence to sift though a multitude of information in order to find ways to catch people out, I believe the name of that meme was "Autism finds a way". I actually think that's a more positive example because it compliments them by generalising them as being highly intellegent, making incredibly quick calculations in their minds etc.

In reality, every instance of autism is different. Some people just struggle to interact with people, others spaz out when a certain set of events don't go the way they want them to. Both examples of autistic memes I gave aren't accurate at all. They may have some truth to them that applies to some people, but it's not "you're autistic therefore these apply" etc.

A lot of people embrace the autistic memes to wear as armour. I think it's just one of those things where it's funny to mock people online, but in real life no-one would dare dream of treating people like this unless you're a disgusting degenerate.

Edit: Another example is when people call themselves or other people "spergs" as in "aspergers" in relation to the whole routine thing, or not being able to stand certain things like a picture on a wall being askew or whatever. I think these traits are actually more common in the general population. For instance I can't stand it when people use American English. These traits do not mean people have aspergers, but perhaps some other disorder. The whole discussion around autism has changed recently, it's become broad and puts people on the spectrum for any difficulty socialising etc.
Today I grabber berserker buff in an ez winning bg.

I didnt see my rogue and he said "Why" and went to mines... I wispered him "Sry I didnt see you" And he replied almost instantly "Autist" :/

Not funny...
Well, Aranaria, that is quite a tale that you just told. It certainly is... Something.

It always frightens me what kind of freaks of nature exist in the world, like the guild leader that you described.
07/10/2018 16:40Posted by Tubri
Well, Aranaria, that is quite a tale that you just told. It certainly is... Something.

It always frightens me what kind of freaks of nature exist in the world.


I really hope your not attempting to goad me for a reaction because it will not work any other responses along the line such as yours will be ignored if they are deemed offensive. Sorry do not have the time for that crap any more and people who do it should be ashamed of themselves as well. I will let it slide just this once.
Same kind of neanderthals who use slurs regarding sexuality as an insult..

Put them on ignore and clear up that chat. Works wonders..
07/10/2018 18:39Posted by Áranaría
I really hope your not attempting to goad me for a reaction because it will not work any other responses along the line such as yours will be ignored if they are deemed offensive. Sorry do not have the time for that crap any more and people who do it should be ashamed of themselves as well. I will let it slide just this once.


What...? I was commenting on what kind of person this guild leader was and that the story you told certainly was something. And no, I was not trying to get a reaction out of you, so you had no real need to respond to me.
I am autistic too, It mainly hinders my social ability and makes me super shy and uneasy speaking to strangers. I can't even think about using a discord with strangers, but with text I am fine. It makes me anxious that no guild will want to recruit a silent but capable healer so I have not tried to find a guild recently.

But aside from that I can play multiple instruments from piano to strings and woodwinds, can read/write and compose music at a high degree so maybe my autism is to thank for that!

I believe using autism as an insult probably started with some uneducated youtuber or streamer and spread among other less intelligent people to get where it is today.
As many others said its just sad. And people who are joking about cancer aswell.. just stop
As some one with autism, do not use autism as an insult anyone that does gets reported, heck if the intend is to insult some one it does't matter what you call some one i report it.
07/10/2018 10:53Posted by Oer

And then mothers who more often raise chidren alone and not stimulating specific personality traits and activities and telling children they are perfect as they are. Men are needed in raising children, specially boys.


Errm.. some of my best friends were brought up and raised by a single mum and did rather well for themselves.

Are you trying to imply that it is only men who can give boys a "boys" upbringing? While I agree somewhat that an ideal family set up involves mom and pop (or at least two parents regardless of gender) I would disagree that a boy "needs" a man in his life for him to fully develop and learn "guy" values.
07/10/2018 20:56Posted by Tubri
07/10/2018 18:39Posted by Áranaría
I really hope your not attempting to goad me for a reaction because it will not work any other responses along the line such as yours will be ignored if they are deemed offensive. Sorry do not have the time for that crap any more and people who do it should be ashamed of themselves as well. I will let it slide just this once.


What...? I was commenting on what kind of person this guild leader was and that the story you told certainly was something. And no, I was not trying to get a reaction out of you, so you had no real need to respond to me.


Apology accepted then in this case. I think I may suggest you re read what you wrote to me originally back to yourself it came across as if the "freak of nature" was directed at me it clearly was not and I am at fault for no seeing that in retrospect but since the forums are full with toxic baiting people one has to usually assume the worst on seeing such comments. Again my apologies and yes the person in question is dead on what you say she is. Sad really but there you go.

No harm done or feelings hurt either :)
Nowadays its cool to bring others down from the safety of your computer screen because it has no real consequences.

That's the main issue with the internet in general. Autism is the victim now, soon another will come along and people will forget about the insults regarding it.

Its a shame really. I feel like we'd be off so much better if we could just grant one another a splendid time in life as well as ourselves. But this is coming from someone who went into social studies because they draw great joy out of helping other people, maybe I'm just the ''odd'' one.
07/10/2018 22:32Posted by Áranaría
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What...? I was commenting on what kind of person this guild leader was and that the story you told certainly was something. And no, I was not trying to get a reaction out of you, so you had no real need to respond to me.


Apology accepted then in this case. I think I may suggest you re read what you wrote to me originally back to yourself it came across as if the "freak of nature" was directed at me it clearly was not and I am at fault for no seeing that in retrospect but since the forums are full with toxic baiting people one has to usually assume the worst on seeing such comments. Again my apologies and yes the person in question is dead on what you say she is. Sad really but there you go.

No harm done or feelings hurt either :)


Oh, I am happy that we cleared the confusion up. It is why I sometimes try to make it clear as who am I talking about (Like in this case, I probably should have added "Like that Guild Leader you described").

I also re-read the reply, and I have to say that it doesn't strike me like I am addressing you with the remark, although it is ratger unclear and could mean anything. I'll edit it.

Just glad that you got a hold of my follow-up comment that did give clarity. I'd hate to be on someone's list of grudges due to an error of clarity on my end
07/10/2018 09:10Posted by Bukachu
why is this thread still here?


asking again

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