Pet Peeve #36: The Peeve is Always Right

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I'm not wrong though.


"those darn racist liberals, coddling minorities when a true non-racist would be, uh" *check notes* "calling for mass deportation and genocide!"

Dumbass centrists like the US Democrats and the like do have a problem with patronising minorities, and anti-semitism exists in the UK Labour party but, if you're arguing that "red-pilled" (what a term) people aren't racist after seeing the sort of xenophobic drivel that Paul Joseph Watson, Ben Shapiro and other professional liars vomit out, then you are either brainwashed are outright lying.

The problem with the Right (and the Centre, for that matter, and Maoists/Stalinists) is that people within it have an inability to think for themselves in any way whatsoever. Some random guy on YouTube who's trying to sell you brain pills that obviously don't work is saying it, so it must be true! He's confirming all my biases, so it must be true!

This is naturally aimed at the Right in the social sense (though I could go on about how stupid right-wing economics are too), but these people will never change because they'd rather minority groups change/stop existing rather than cause them the trouble of being polite.
09/11/2018 18:48Posted by Vixí
I'm gonna call it untrue, or atleast subjective & overexaggarated


You are free to call it as whatever you like, freedom of speech allows it. But facts are simply facts, regardless if one decides to ignore reality around them.

09/11/2018 18:46Posted by Lintian
Pet peeve: pet peeve threads being derailed.


I am peeved that people will sleepwalk into their own totalitarian dystopia without even realising it. 1984 wasn't intended as an instruction manual.
You are free to call it as whatever you like, freedom of speech allows it. But facts are simply facts, regardless if one decides to ignore reality around them.


I question that they are facts though. From what I have gathered is that it is simply untrue, so not a fact but an opinion.
09/11/2018 19:00Posted by Vixí
You are free to call it as whatever you like, freedom of speech allows it. But facts are simply facts, regardless if one decides to ignore reality around them.


I question that they are facts though. From what I have gathered is that it is simply untrue, so not a fact but an opinion.


I mean if we're going to delve into perceptions of reality here, it wouldn't matter what either of us are going to say, since we are in a post-truth age. What is fact and what is opinion/fiction doesn't actually matter in 2018. We have progressed that far down the Orwellian ladder that nothing has become real and everything has become fake.

It's all a matter of perception now.
My pet peeve is people discussing politics where it's blatantly out of place
09/11/2018 18:48Posted by Vixí
09/11/2018 18:41Posted by Zanmarea
The UK.


Yeah I'm gonna call it untrue, or atleast subjective & overexaggarated. I follow alot of UK news from various sources to get a broader view & not just one single verion, as well as talk to people and friends.

The only time I've actually seen someone called a racist is when hey are funnily enough, saying something racist.

I don't mean you can't criticise religions(Islam in this case) or ethnic minorities, but using slurs or labelling them all as criminals, pedophiles etc is just racism.


You can not in any way criticise certain minorities or regions, without being labelled a racist.

Don't think it's okay that a religion says that you should kill homosexuals, and that they are being murdered abroad where that religion is in power? Racist.

Don't think it's okay that certain ethnic groups throw acid on women faces, or slit their throats because they don't want to go 'back home' for an arranged marriage with a distant cousin? Racist.

You're angry because the police stood by and let hundreds of young girls get abused, because they were too worried about being accused of targeting minorities? Racist.

Talking of the police, they will make sure they are policing online, make sure you don't make a joke that might cause offence on Twitter or Facebook, but if your Grandma gets robbed? Oh they'll be around in a week or two to investigate, maybe, funds permitting, but you better not tweet angrily about it, racist.

That is the reality of living in the UK right now, and while you may go to various sources for your view, it's an unfortunate fact that the view you will be getting is biased, because well, the 'elite' of Britain all come from the same background. Top judges, politicians, the people running the media?

All come from the same three or four 'schools' even if they are divided between Labour and Tory in politcs.
My computer has decided to have random stutters while playing games. It causes them to seize up for 2-4 seconds whilst my GPU usage hits 0%. Super weird and I've tried everything in the book to fix it. I thought it was exclusive to Destiny 2 (And it's gotten me killed repeatedly) but it's happening in WoW as well. It's so random, I can go hours without issue then I get one. or I get two in a span of five minutes.

How hard is it to go back to Windows 7? Genuine question.
09/11/2018 19:03Posted by Lukas
I mean if we're going to delve into perceptions of reality here, it wouldn't matter what either of us are going to say, since we are in a post-truth age. What is fact and what is opinion/fiction doesn't actually matter in 2018. We have progressed that far down the Orwellian ladder that nothing has become real and everything has become fake.

It's all a matter of perception now.


Maybe I'm naive, but I feel this is really sad and something I try to fight against. I'm not shy about my believes and consider myself very "left"(socialist). But I still can and will respect people who do not share my opinions, funnily enough alot of my friends are more right-leaning, some more centric, but very few share my believes. I still respect them, their opinions and I enjoy discussing with them to hear their views.

What do not like, is the whole "truth is subjective". Truth is truth, what you make of it or think of it differs. But I do not like people completly altering or making things up as "their truth" to fit an agenda, regardless of opinions.
09/11/2018 19:06Posted by Zanmarea
You can not in any way criticise certain minorities or regions, without being labelled a racist.


Factually false. I've done it, I do it, alot of people do it. If you are honestly being called a racist, then I want to know exactly how you, or the people you heard this from, worded their criticism. Because high chances are, it was actually racist.

09/11/2018 19:06Posted by Zanmarea
Don't think it's okay that a religion says that you should kill homosexuals, and that they are being murdered abroad where that religion is in power? Racist.

Don't think it's okay that certain ethnic groups throw acid on women faces, or slit their throats because they don't want to go 'back home' for an arranged marriage with a distant cousin? Racist.


It isn't racist, but claiming -everyone- following the religion, the religion itself or people from certain countries -all- do this, is racist. Because it is, despite what some people claim, a handful of nutters doing this. Extremism, from all politics & religions, is dangerous. Islam and brown people aren't.

09/11/2018 19:06Posted by Zanmarea
That is the reality of living in the UK right now, and while you may go to various sources for your view, it's an unfortunate fact that the view you will be getting is biased, because well, the 'elite' of Britain all come from the same background. Top judges, politicians, the people running the media?


But this isn't the reality. It is percieved or in alot of cases outright false information being spread and hyped up then blamed on "the elite".
09/11/2018 19:09Posted by Vixí
I'm not shy about my believes and consider myself very "left"(socialist). But I still can and will respect people who do not share my opinions, funnily enough alot of my friends are more right-leaning, ome more centric, but very few share my believes. I still respect them, their opinions and I enjoy discussing with them to hear their views.


I personally do not put myself on the left-right dichotomy of things. It's redundant in this day and age. If anything I would say there is a Freedom-Slavery band I measure things on, of which I would put myself about 2 steps away from absolute freedom, which is more along the lines of anarchic and moral relativist line of thinking.

I have ideas that would be considered "traditionally" left, and others that would be considered right. You can't fly without two wings after all.



09/11/2018 19:09Posted by Vixí
What do not like, is the whole "truth is subjective". Truth is truth, what you make of it or think of it differs. But I do not like people completly altering or making things up as "their truth" to fit an agenda, regardless of opinions.


Then at least on this we share a common ground, it's a major peeve of mine to see people (irrespective of what they believe in) fabricate truths so unbelievable, it would require some form of esoteric belief system to actually recognise them as "fact" at all.
I have ideas that would be considered "traditionally" left, and others that would be considered right. You can't fly without two wings after all.


I think alot of people share this sentiment today, which is very reasonable and fine.

09/11/2018 19:19Posted by Lukas
Then at least on this we share a common ground, it's a major peeve of mine to see people (irrespective of what they believe in) fabricate truths so unbelievable, it would require some form of esoteric belief system to actually recognise them as "fact" at all.


True, while I'm not perfect I do try my best to check things I hear, on several sources and only make bolder statement when I truly feel I know if it is true or not.
I live in the UK and I completely disagree with the while "can't criticise X for fear of Y" angle. It's a position advocated by certain extremes of specific political parties and adopted by (overwhelmingly members of above mentioned group) student unions at specific universities. Their views do not curry weight outside of their internal student environment, are subjected to plenty of healthy criticism from other sources/unis and in no way can this be portrayed as a universal truth of life in the UK.

All too frequently people claiming "you can't criticise X for Y" are criticising an entire group of people for a characteristic shared between the perp of heinous action Y, and then going in to claim this is therefore a mainstream threat on part of people X. It totally ignores the huge majority of X individuals who don't do Y, and then people claim they're being gagged when others object that's it's (quite rightly) not on to demand actions against the entire of X because of something a few members of said group did.

All too often people who do this protest when extremist tools on the left generalise them and label them as a group of "insert idiotic identity politicking hate meme" here, yet do precisely the same when it comes to extremist tools from another group. The difference is one group is smaller than the group they belong to, so they perceive the generalization as more valid. It's not.
Pet Peeve; this **** coming up again and again.

Take it to Twitter already, that's a major drain on my feed there to.
And no, it's not that I'm some cold hearted, apathetic edge lord who "Doesn't care". I do care. That's the problem. I care and see the world being **** on a daily basis, and I get tired of feeling tired and drained and depressed about humans, with all their potential, just being utter, utter ****s to one another and the planet.

Take it some place else. Give the rest of us a break for heck sakes...
They're crashing this thread... with no survivors.

Anyway back on track
Pet Peeve: I know 22 BoE Green Two handed axes is nice blizzard but I'm a priest farming for a mount, Not a warrior whose wife left him and uses weaponry to fill the void.
09/11/2018 19:56Posted by Dudflex
They're crashing this thread... with no survivors.

Anyway back on track
Pet Peeve: I know 22 BoE Green Two handed axes is nice blizzard but I'm a priest farming for a mount, Not a warrior whose wife left him and uses weaponry to fill the void.


I'm sure people will complain and say "But it's always been that way!" with a side order of "Suffer, as we have suffered!!" but I sure wouldn't complain if old loot was changed to drop ONLY BoE items and Class-Appropriate items.

Because believe me, I think if I suffer another week of getting the Soulbound, wrong-class item tokens from Serpentshrine and Tempest Keep? I may just scream...
Can we try to exclude discussions about stuff like this on a gaming forum? That's my current peeve.
Time for a distraction then.

https://www.eurogamer.net/amp/2018-11-08-world-of-warcraft-and-the-masterplan-for-sylvanas

My pet peeve is this interview.
09/11/2018 20:54Posted by Taxania
Time for a distraction then.

https://www.eurogamer.net/amp/2018-11-08-world-of-warcraft-and-the-masterplan-for-sylvanas

My pet peeve is this interview.


Interesting. For once Afrasiabi seems actually intelligent in his replies. At least now I know why the story has been !@#$ since 2006.
In the WoD starting area on my mag'har priest, everytime I do something, I just think, "well, this is awkward"
09/11/2018 21:40Posted by Croecell
In the WoD starting area on my mag'har priest, everytime I do something, I just think, "well, this is awkward"


More awkward than LF/Velf/DI accepting Anduins opening letter and then questing on behalf of his dead dad to recover young him in pandaria, before witnessing his dead dad dying and then him becoming the guy who accepted you in the alliance in the first place?

Allied races and old content is awesome!

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