Game really is a mess

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Can't muster the motivation, or care, to do anything.

Playing just consists of spamming 2-3 buttons (eyes open is optional) and I know loot obtained is locked behind an internal algorithm that decides when I'm to get something.

I would have been someone who would put a lot of time into obtaining better items but the current loot system protects against this, so everything is averaged out, people who play/raid months can have gear similar to someone who plays a few weeks.

Before you could work toward loot, now you can't. The game now decides because Blizzard want complete control over everything.

The whole experience now just feels empty and soulless.

I feel sad and angry. I loved this game. I know I've to accept it and/or just quit but it's still sad and frustrating.
31/10/2018 22:20Posted by Ayev
Can't muster the motivation, or care, to do anything.

Playing just consists of spamming 2-3 buttons (eyes open is optional) and I know loot obtained is locked behind an internal algorithm that decides when I'm to get something.

I would have been someone who would put a lot of time into obtaining better items but the current loot system protects against this, so everything is averaged out, people who play/raid months can have gear similar to someone who plays a few weeks.

Before you could work toward loot, now you can't. The game now decides because Blizzard want complete control over everything.

The whole experience now just feels empty and soulless.

I feel sad and angry. I loved this game. I know I've to accept it and/or just quit but it's still sad and frustrating.


(eyes open is optional)


https://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/mr_chang_senor_chang_laugh_spits_milk.gif
whats funny is the game personally i feel has never actually been easier to be good at and people add things like raider io to it....

they don't know it yet .. but they are asking for blizz just to make the game even easier so everyone can access all content.

i will laugh when they realise raider io will result in overall game nerfs and watered down content.
This is exactly how I feel, I did mythic raiding in legion Emerald nightmare and while doing a WQ for emissary I randomly got shoulders 5itemlevels higher than base mythic gear. My urge/motivation to raid died that day, I didn't earn it and I had no expectation to get an upgrade. Now I have no motivation or sense of progression at all..

Don't tell me to find another game, I tried but always end up with wow. I don't have fun, nor do I feel like I progress but wish I did.

I do not understand their decision-making at all!

Professions was rushed, you don't even smelt iron before using it..

Heck, I even faction changed my hunter to fuel my motivation for a while.
What do you expect, they say they'll buff classes in 8.1, instead they nerf a bunch of classes, arms warriors nerfed into ground, their only use in aoe/cleave dps is gone and no one sane will take them into mythic+

Let's see how they try to save WoW in 2 days at Blizzcon, if there's nothing but "We're looking into it" may as well stop playing.
01/11/2018 00:50Posted by Skyrha
What do you expect, they say they'll buff classes in 8.1, instead they nerf a bunch of classes, arms warriors nerfed into ground, their only use in aoe/cleave dps is gone and no one sane will take them into mythic+

Let's see how they try to save WoW in 2 days at Blizzcon, if there's nothing but "We're looking into it" may as well stop playing.


i honestly think they would be better off calling off blizzcon this year for WoW..

i cant imagine anything going well right now.. they are brave brave souls to put themselves in the spotlight right now.
01/11/2018 01:07Posted by Pixelbear
i honestly think they would be better off calling off blizzcon this year for WoW..

That's what you honestly think? With 32 hours until the opening ceremony, you think Blizzard would be better off if they decided to cancel everything they had planned for WoW this year.

That's what you honestly think?

Really?

I'm going to assume you don't know what the word honestly means.
Yes. Game now is a mess. And doesn't reward effort or behavior. Furthermore everyone can get gear by doing nothing and ruin the fun even for those who wants to put effort without reward . Because you will have someone who 1 wipe and leave or someone who is a flamer.
31/10/2018 22:20Posted by Ayev
I feel sad and angry. I loved this game. I know I've to accept it and/or just quit but it's still sad and frustrating.


Spot on, brother!
I'm sticking around, but not ingame
Sub is still running, but i'm not ingame.

Its a sad truth, paying for the right to post on a forum that i've used for years on end.. I hardly ever posted just viewed, but that time has changed...

I find more fun on the EU and US forums then i do ingame
This is wow for me untill classic releases, then my friends it's back to No-life again!
For me personally, there is way too much illogical designs.

*LFR, Allows recent 120levels players to defeat an old god?(that includes me, no time/motivation for normal/hc raid).

*Titanforging, Mythic raid level gear from LFR/Easy content?

*Not smelting ores before using it?

*PvP gear being completely random?(illogical, because nobody likes it)

*Level up 20 levels without any character progression at all?

Our brain don't like when things are illogical, it naturally causes irritation and frustration. We may not think about it, but logic is a feeling of whats right and wrong. Sort of a Like and Dislike button for our subconscious, When things are illogical we disagree and that causes frustration and confusion.
01/11/2018 12:50Posted by Nozamy
LFR, Allows recent 120levels players to defeat an old god?

Learn to distinguish between story context and gameplay context.

In a story context I'm a champion of The Alliance. I have performed one heroic deed after another and saved the world countless times.

In a gameplay context I sometimes struggle to kill 3 rats in Stormsong Valley without dying. They can be quite the foe!

Don't mix story with gameplay when you aren't meant to.
01/11/2018 13:03Posted by Jito
01/11/2018 12:50Posted by Nozamy
LFR, Allows recent 120levels players to defeat an old god?

Learn to distinguish between story context and gameplay context.

In a story context I'm a champion of The Alliance. I have performed one heroic deed after another and saved the world countless times.

In a gameplay context I sometimes struggle to kill 3 rats in Stormsong Valley without dying. They can be quite the foe!

Don't mix story with gameplay when you aren't meant to.

I guess we all have our own perspective.

In the past we had to at least form a group and put in effort and truly experience the bosses, while now I can watch Netflix on the side and hope something titanforge to hc/mythic IL.

LFR is meant to let people with little time(such as myself) to experience the raid content. And I simply think that there are better ways to do it, without taking away the excitement of actually experiencing the encounters. Such as LFR taking place in the aftermath of the raid

Edit: I'm just stating my opinion
31/10/2018 22:20Posted by Ayev
Can't muster the motivation, or care, to do anything.

Playing just consists of spamming 2-3 buttons (eyes open is optional) and I know loot obtained is locked behind an internal algorithm that decides when I'm to get something.

I would have been someone who would put a lot of time into obtaining better items but the current loot system protects against this, so everything is averaged out, people who play/raid months can have gear similar to someone who plays a few weeks.

Before you could work toward loot, now you can't. The game now decides because Blizzard want complete control over everything.

The whole experience now just feels empty and soulless.

I feel sad and angry. I loved this game. I know I've to accept it and/or just quit but it's still sad and frustrating.


(eyes open is optional)


https://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/mr_chang_senor_chang_laugh_spits_milk.gif


yeah..i miss old spells...had to click more than 2 buton
Its the class design that ruins the fun for me too much have been pruned and in order to get to play my class as a somewhat full class i have to keep warmode on because with pvp talents some classes/specs are actually decent not fun but decent to play.

Everything should start from classes if the character classes are boring then automatically the game is boring as hell.
01/11/2018 17:06Posted by Mavys
Its the class design that ruins the fun for me too much have been pruned and in order to get to play my class as a somewhat full class i have to keep warmode on because with pvp talents some classes/specs are actually decent not fun but decent to play.

Everything should start from classes if the character classes are boring then automatically the game is boring as hell.


And you always feel unsafe, you pick outlaw rogue, 2 months later it gets nerfed so hard other 2 specs are only ones playable, you pick arms warrior, arms gets nerfed in 8.1 and you're forced to go fury, which is much less fun. Your whole game is basically dictated by devs, who choose what is viable, and the choices in talent trees are usually not choices at all, you have to pick something or you suffer.
...i will laugh when they realize raider io will result in overall game nerfs and watered down content.


You don't understand! I NEED to check if people have already mastered certain content in order to know if they stand a chance of completing said content with me.

Also, guys, I will be creating a Normal Uldir progression guild soon "Epic Win GamerZ United". Send me your applications 370+ ilvl required (link all relevant achievements). We will be raiding every week because that's what epic gamers do but not on school nights because mom doesn't let me.
01/11/2018 01:27Posted by Jito
01/11/2018 01:07Posted by Pixelbear
i honestly think they would be better off calling off blizzcon this year for WoW..

That's what you honestly think? With 32 hours until the opening ceremony, you think Blizzard would be better off if they decided to cancel everything they had planned for WoW this year.

That's what you honestly think?

Really?

I'm going to assume you don't know what the word honestly means.


look jito is no surprise you are a ticket holder . i'm just being realistic .. unless they got something amazing to show they are better off showing nothing.
01/11/2018 17:44Posted by Skyrha
01/11/2018 17:06Posted by Mavys
Its the class design that ruins the fun for me too much have been pruned and in order to get to play my class as a somewhat full class i have to keep warmode on because with pvp talents some classes/specs are actually decent not fun but decent to play.

Everything should start from classes if the character classes are boring then automatically the game is boring as hell.


And you always feel unsafe, you pick outlaw rogue, 2 months later it gets nerfed so hard other 2 specs are only ones playable, you pick arms warrior, arms gets nerfed in 8.1 and you're forced to go fury, which is much less fun. Your whole game is basically dictated by devs, who choose what is viable, and the choices in talent trees are usually not choices at all, you have to pick something or you suffer.


You just cant avoid balancing. This happens in almost every multiplayer game no matter how much you hate it. Again the way the characters play is the problem. If your character is fun to play you can, to a certain extend, live with the imbalance.
01/11/2018 01:27Posted by Jito
01/11/2018 01:07Posted by Pixelbear
i honestly think they would be better off calling off blizzcon this year for WoW..

That's what you honestly think? With 32 hours until the opening ceremony, you think Blizzard would be better off if they decided to cancel everything they had planned for WoW this year.

That's what you honestly think?

Really?

I'm going to assume you don't know what the word honestly means.


How is he wrong if what they will show and say is exactly what people are predicitng? Dodging the issues, feeding us obvious lies etc. Better than to just tell people, you know what we are gonna pros-pone all of this and when we have got the solutions and fixes that you want at hand, we'll have a big event and show them to you then instead.

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