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People complain about Zandalari Paladins while it has been 10+ years and I am still trying to figure out how Gnome Warriors are supposed to tank hits from raid bosses a few dozen times their size when the latter can simply step on them.
You can't claim that you care for lore and post that Zandaladins make no sense. Sorry guys, but they were hinted to be a thing since Vanilla and actually appeared as indisputable paladin class in MoP.

That was a formality to make them playable - unless you like to stay in denial.
Light is a power, but can come from various sources. The most common one is the religion. Trolls believe in Loa and some of them many times proved that as a cosmic beings can grant various powers - even the light one.

It's absolutely reasonable that religious nation that has elevated highly priests and scholars, who have city filled with temples and schrines, who actually is putting a huge emphasise on martial prowless and actually have disciplined army HAVE holy warriors. Their warriors are infused with Loa powers. They have their own unique theme just because you don't like this concept doesn't mean that it makes no sense because it does.

More than a bitter elves subjucating naaru and stealing power from it rather than taking power from faith.
If light can be stolen then nothing stops us from goblin paladins.
05/11/2018 06:12Posted by Battousai
So, Alliance still has more shaman races than Horde has paladin races?

Its amazing what alliance players whine about.

Next alliance thread: "Alliance is basically horde now with 4 shaman races!"


5 actually

- dwarf
-dafk iron dwarf
-space goat
-Kul'Tiran
-pandaren
03/11/2018 11:07Posted by Dinsdale
Finally, a decent Horde race for pala.

you clearly have forgotten Belfs are palladins aswell :)
05/11/2018 09:11Posted by Zakkaru
You can't claim that you care for lore and post that Zandaladins make no sense. Sorry guys, but they were hinted to be a thing since Vanilla and actually appeared as indisputable paladin class in MoP.

That was a formality to make them playable - unless you like to stay in denial.
Light is a power, but can come from various sources. The most common one is the religion. Trolls believe in Loa and some of them many times proved that as a cosmic beings can grant various powers - even the light one.

It's absolutely reasonable that religious nation that has elevated highly priests and scholars, who have coty filled with temples and schrines, who actually is putting a huge emphasise on martial prowless and actually have disciplined army HAVE holy warriors. Their warriors are infused with Loa powers. They have their own unique themw just because you don't like this concept doesn't mean that it makes no sense because it does.

More than a bitter elves subjucating naaru and stealing power from it rather than taking power from faith.
If light can be stolen then nothing stops us from goblin paladins.


https://www.wowhead.com/news=282240.4/prelates-of-rezan-dialogue-on-zandalari-paladins-spoilers

your loa rezan is dead

he is the one that prelates worshipped

NO LOA NO PALADIN

unless you have the developers sucking up to you so you will buy token boosts, race changes and cosmetics, FOR DA HORDE XdDD
05/11/2018 08:07Posted by Roy
People complain about Zandalari Paladins while it has been 10+ years and I am still trying to figure out how Gnome Warriors are supposed to tank hits from raid bosses a few dozen times their size when the latter can simply step on them.


with the same logic, undead, goblin and blood elf will crumble from a single hit, so warrior or tank class makes no sense.....
> People get pissed and complain during beta when they learn Zandalari can't be paladins.
> People get pissed and complain when Blizzard listens and lets Zandalari be paladins.
Ok guys I have the solution to this, so retributon can go back to downloading !@#$%^ ...

Zandalari will NOT get Paladins

We get TEMPLAR ! yeah sounds much better as it is, we could actually rename all horde paladins to templar, would work out so good (except ofc alliance crying would be massive, horde favorism they got cooler name)
05/11/2018 09:17Posted by Retributor
You can't claim that you care for lore and post that Zandaladins make no sense. Sorry guys, but they were hinted to be a thing since Vanilla and actually appeared as indisputable paladin class in MoP.

That was a formality to make them playable - unless you like to stay in denial.
Light is a power, but can come from various sources. The most common one is the religion. Trolls believe in Loa and some of them many times proved that as a cosmic beings can grant various powers - even the light one.

It's absolutely reasonable that religious nation that has elevated highly priests and scholars, who have coty filled with temples and schrines, who actually is putting a huge emphasise on martial prowless and actually have disciplined army HAVE holy warriors. Their warriors are infused with Loa powers. They have their own unique themw just because you don't like this concept doesn't mean that it makes no sense because it does.

More than a bitter elves subjucating naaru and stealing power from it rather than taking power from faith.
If light can be stolen then nothing stops us from goblin paladins.


https://www.wowhead.com/news=282240.4/prelates-of-rezan-dialogue-on-zandalari-paladins-spoilers

your loa rezan is dead

he is the one that prelates worshipped

NO LOA NO PALADIN

unless you have the developers sucking up to you so you will buy token boosts, race changes and cosmetics, FOR DA HORDE XdDD


Hey you lore specialist, power of light comes from faith and conviction as long as they believe in the loa they can still use the power. Rezan was empowering them directly. And this is what Ion said that that they will find a way around it because once they posessed such power they will figure out how to do it again.

And they did. They could also find another loa - Shirvallah is shown as one in HS.
You also have that troll paladin boss Rawani Ka'nae who said that "Light of the Loa is all I need".
05/11/2018 09:13Posted by Zakkaru
05/11/2018 06:12Posted by Battousai
So, Alliance still has more shaman races than Horde has paladin races?

Its amazing what alliance players whine about.

Next alliance thread: "Alliance is basically horde now with 4 shaman races!"


5 actually

- dwarf
-dafk iron dwarf
-space goat
-Kul'Tiran
-pandaren


Pandaren are a neutral race.
05/11/2018 10:06Posted by Battousai
05/11/2018 09:13Posted by Zakkaru
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5 actually

- dwarf
-dafk iron dwarf
-space goat
-Kul'Tiran
-pandaren


Pandaren are a neutral race.


Doesn't matter you still have additional choice for both horde and alliance. A model that has it's own animations, totems and racials. They're viable choice and shouldn't be ignored on either side.
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https://www.wowhead.com/news=282240.4/prelates-of-rezan-dialogue-on-zandalari-paladins-spoilers

your loa rezan is dead

he is the one that prelates worshipped

NO LOA NO PALADIN

unless you have the developers sucking up to you so you will buy token boosts, race changes and cosmetics, FOR DA HORDE XdDD


Hey you lore specialist, power of light comes from faith and conviction as long as they believe in the loa they can still use the power. Rezan was empowering them directly. And this is what Ion said that that they will find a way around it because once they posessed such power they will figure out how to do it again.

And they did. They could also find another loa - Shirvallah is shown as one in HS.
You also have that troll paladin boss Rawani Ka'nae who said that "Light of the Loa is all I need".


I totally agree with you here, though you forgot that Vol'jin is still bumbling about ready to be canonized as a Loa!

It's not quite "Light" that is required, since The Light is a Human/Dwarf/Draenei based religion. I think it's more to do with Regality, "Postive Holy" and a Deitic Aggressiveness (Not necessarily evil) for a Cadre of Holy Warriors.

Simply any powerful Loa with a Regal/Noble nature could be the new Loa of Prelates!
05/11/2018 09:18Posted by Retributor
05/11/2018 08:07Posted by Roy
People complain about Zandalari Paladins while it has been 10+ years and I am still trying to figure out how Gnome Warriors are supposed to tank hits from raid bosses a few dozen times their size when the latter can simply step on them.


with the same logic, undead, goblin and blood elf will crumble from a single hit, so warrior or tank class makes no sense.....

The joke

-------

Your head
WIth that said ( And I do not mean you in particular ): People take this game way way WAY too personal. I completely understand if/why people are genuine upset by this but...c'mon, really? There are worse things going on to be upset about in my humble opinion
05/11/2018 09:13Posted by Zakkaru
-space goat


I am liking Your posts and You insult me such?
Wow ended when wotlk was ended,
Rest is just 0
The concept of Light-wielding plate-wearing holy warriors in WoW is no longer solely based off of the theme of holy crusaders of Medieval Europe. I would guess that the prime reason why Alliance players are hating on Zandalari prelates (especially players with Human Palas) is because it distorts that Knights Templar fantasy that inspired Paladins in the Warcraft universe.

Apart from that, from a game balance perspective and WoW lore, prelates have existed for years now, but it would just take effort for Blizzard to rename spells and redesign some animations to fit the Loa theme and draw the line between that and the ability names which clearly reflects the "crusader" theme.

Maybe one day in the distant future, we would actually have Prelate/Sunwalker specific animations and abilities, with separate.. well "churches" and "religions" if so to speak.
Blizzard is just creating a buffer for when the Sylvanas raid is announced and the Horde fanboys (well, Belves anyway) go into total meltdown and threaten to burn down Blizzard HQ.

Give it a few months.
05/11/2018 06:14Posted by Retributor
horde trolls before going to high school decide to come here and make fun of the minority faction that gets sh@!@t on by blizzard


So what you are saying is that if anyone posts their opinion, you decide to take it seriously or call them a troll based on what race they are playing, a Horde one or Alliance? As for High School, or Secondary School as we call it in my country, There is no 'before' going for me, rather that I finished it 26 years ago (My word, time does fly), but then, like most people, I play both Horde characters and Alliance ones, however I am able to separate myself from my characters, so don't get quite so worked up as some people do. I've never understood why people who RP are able to calmly discuss the game, and realise that they are not their character and it is just a game, whereas the people who start frothing at the mouth and start to self insert as their characters are not even from RP realms... Bizarre.

05/11/2018 06:25Posted by Belfdin
Troll paladin's bwhahahaha are you f serious?


A Highly Theistic society, very Priest driven, and known to be able to wield a version of the Light?, one partially based on Mesoamerican culture, who historically -had- Holy Warriors believed to be magical, one where we've already -seen- these holy Warriors in game?

Yeah, I'd say that sounds serious. And logical.

05/11/2018 06:28Posted by Retributor
glad you see how ridiculous that is...and many other sane people who actually care about this game, lore and the factions ...


What has that to do with anything? They fit the game, they fit the lore, they fit the Factions, Alliance still have a higher number of Paladins, and Horde still have a higher number of Shamans. Nothing about that is ridiculous.

05/11/2018 06:28Posted by Retributor
but sadly most horde are just glad that the opposite faction will be shrinking to 30% or less within a year.


Not that it is particularly relevant a point you make, but that did tickle me, as on Argent Dawn it is exactly the reverse, 70% Alliance 30% Horde. Odd that, no idea why..

05/11/2018 06:54Posted by Retributor
on top of being an immature troll, you're a racist as well.


I cannot see anything in Nazdreg's post that was racist. Now you later state that in your country there are no benefits, so I can deduce therefore you are not British, and so English may not be your first language, which is cool, I won't mock someone's written English until I am as fluent in their language, which is likely not at all, however are you sure 'Racist' is the word you were looking for there?

You could argue that Nazdreg's post was 'Discriminatory' against people on benefits. (Oddly, I -am- on benefits, but that is because of -hopefully- Temporary disability and not being able to work, but I just thought it slightly funny as a comment, to be honest), and therefore if you speak English as a foreign language you might have thought Discrimination=Racist. You can get Racial Discrimination, however not all Discrimination is Racist at all. Could be sexist, could be social background, could be religious, sexual orientation, regional, physical health based, could be a whole load of things.

Basically no one was being Racist there. I think you used the wrong word in error.

05/11/2018 07:29Posted by Helenkeller
Trol paladin seems out of place. They are attuned to the light since vanilla... ( priest class ) But still it's a race that evolves around nature and its spirits. ( Loa's and what not ) So having shining knights throwing bubbles and flash heals within their ranks feels really out of place.


It is out of place, if you think of Paladins just as Big Knights with Holy magic, clanking around in platemail. Obviously we're tempted to do that, in the Western world, because those are our myths, Roland and his 12 Paladins, Charlemagne and his Paladins, King Arthur and his Knights of the Holy Grail.

The concept of a Holy Warrior however, is a worldwide one, which exists on every continent where there were people. Its like, Sunwalkers, They actually make perfect sense, they are based on the Native American idea of what a Holy Warrior was. Given that Tauren are heavily based on Native Americans this makes sense.

Now the Zandalari, as much as people (Blizzard included) keep making the 'Wakanda forever' jokes, are based on MesoAmerican culture, the most well known being the Aztecs, Incas and Mayans, all three of which had a cultural concept of Holy Warriors. Even more tellingly, most of them were based on religious beliefs around incredibly powerful animal spirits (Starting to sound familiar?), some of the more well known (And obviously this is rough translation, the languages are long dead) we would call 'Eagle Warriors' or 'Jaguar Knights' as two examples.

So...actually, they kind of make perfect sense too. To our minds a Holy Warrior was a Paladin, a Templar who believed in God. Across the Ocean, a Holy Warrior was something very different. For a start, they didn't believe in just one God.

Hope that puts it in context a bit.
05/11/2018 09:15Posted by Cyri
03/11/2018 11:07Posted by Dinsdale
Finally, a decent Horde race for pala.

you clearly have forgotten Belfs are palladins aswell :)

Yeah but they are far from decent!
05/11/2018 13:20Posted by Alysdair
Blizzard is just creating a buffer for when the Sylvanas raid is announced and the Horde fanboys (well, Belves anyway) go into total meltdown and threaten to burn down Blizzard HQ.Give it a few months.


What has your statement got to do with this thread at all? Did you just see a thread where people were arguing about something tangentially to do with the Horde and think "Ooh! I can make one of my usual posts having a go at Blood Elves, despite it not being connected to the topic at hand! I'm not obsessed or anything, but your pixels annoy me, and I must make the world know...again..."

For the record, when they announce a Sylvanas raid (I think they'll go a different route with it, but sure, lets use your narrative), I will sigh and think "Well that's lazy, a direct retread of the end of MoP" but be quite happy with it. I don't like what they've done with her, and her boyfriend is an annoying douchecanoe. Much like Jaina, Sylvanas has outstayed her welcome as a character in this franchise, much like Jaina, she has her die hard fans, and as such they will never ice her.

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