State of PVP in BFA

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Besides the fact that a cb casttime do to traits can be extremly short and removing someons hp by up to 40-50% with such a short casttime is just ridicilous.

A Chaosbolt hitting for high amount is just fine, WHEN! it takes quite a while to build an ember/shard and has a long cast time + with cooldowns. Not when you just build 4 shards in few seconds and pull out that much dmg with such short casttime.

and even then it shouldt go for more than 40% hp.
04/11/2018 13:14Posted by Nexintus
04/11/2018 12:58Posted by Râlph
Bad player leaves warlock freecast, then cries in the forums how warlocks are op even though they are the most useless spec when a melee mongo is on top of you

Are you serious? Do you even get the jokes of the video? You also realise you just called the players who just won blizzcon bad right?


not1 pvp av how about u poste in pve forums
Stop embarrasing yourself. There WILL eventually be a moment where you can get a bolt through. Regarding the clip it was just unlucky that it was during CDs.

Also the warlock in the clip is Maldiva. He is one of the best locks there is so go figure for yourself.

OH NOEZ 20K CHAOS BOLT HURTS SO MUCH, SO DEADLY, WTF NERF LOCKS BLIZZ!!!! BUT PLS BUFF RETS AND OTHER MELEES WHO JUST DO THE SAME OR MORE DAMAGE INSTANTLY WITH RAMP UP THAT DOESNT GET SHUT DOWN
05/11/2018 12:11Posted by Râlph
Stop embarrasing yourself. There WILL eventually be a moment where you can get a bolt through. Regarding the clip it was just unlucky that it was during CDs.

Also the warlock in the clip is Maldiva. He is one of the best locks there is so go figure for yourself.

OH NOEZ 20K CHAOS BOLT HURTS SO MUCH, SO DEADLY, WTF NERF LOCKS BLIZZ!!!! BUT PLS BUFF RETS AND OTHER MELEES WHO JUST DO THE SAME OR MORE DAMAGE INSTANTLY WITH RAMP UP THAT DOESNT GET SHUT DOWN


no need to nerf warlock but xD u are not even knowign waht ur saying couse mabye its teh first addon u play wow
05/11/2018 12:11Posted by Râlph
OH NOEZ 20K CHAOS BOLT HURTS SO MUCH, SO DEADLY, WTF NERF LOCKS BLIZZ!!!! BUT PLS BUFF RETS AND OTHER MELEES WHO JUST DO THE SAME OR MORE DAMAGE INSTANTLY WITH RAMP UP THAT DOESNT GET SHUT DOWN
That sad flawed reasoning when you don't know how to CC as a caster. *facepalm*

If they're on you then yeah, you'll find it hard to get a cast out. Not impossible though. Then it also means your partner(s) (whether it's 2s or 3s) can cast more freely.

Omg did I just solve an unsolvable riddle for you?! I bet you're so happy now. Go forth and get ur 1550, young padawan!
Give affliction another magic school like 90% of the other casters and that demon armor as baseline and we might be ok for now.
Jus watched the intro clip.
They just cba'd, didn't pop anything, didn't line up a lock using 3 min off cd, 2 min off cd, and 3 min def cd.

So what? Doesn't vhange the fact the dude is good, no need to call him bad.
But I would have showed that video clip without the giggle or anything and would have removed the fact it's cdew, you guys would have pointed out the flaws and said "it's l2P, plus locks are so !@#$ atm".

It's a human being. What's impressive is to win blizzcon as a human being, not as a robot.
05/11/2018 12:53Posted by Irai
05/11/2018 12:11Posted by Râlph
OH NOEZ 20K CHAOS BOLT HURTS SO MUCH, SO DEADLY, WTF NERF LOCKS BLIZZ!!!! BUT PLS BUFF RETS AND OTHER MELEES WHO JUST DO THE SAME OR MORE DAMAGE INSTANTLY WITH RAMP UP THAT DOESNT GET SHUT DOWN
That sad flawed reasoning when you don't know how to CC as a caster. *facepalm*

If they're on you then yeah, you'll find it hard to get a cast out. Not impossible though. Then it also means your partner(s) (whether it's 2s or 3s) can cast more freely.

Omg did I just solve an unsolvable riddle for you?! I bet you're so happy now. Go forth and get ur 1550, young padawan!

Here's an idea, maybe the 2 melee mongos DONT TRAIN THE SAME DPS!!!!!

I know, it is hard to imagine something as complicated for people who spend most of the arena pveing and target to death and thinking using their cc in a semi coordinated manner makes them good
05/11/2018 13:19Posted by Corrupter
Give affliction another magic school like 90% of the other casters and that demon armor as baseline and we might be ok for now.


Sure but let's remove the stupid trait stacking while we're at it.
04/11/2018 12:58Posted by Râlph
Bad player leaves warlock freecast, then cries in the forums how warlocks are op even though they are the most useless spec when a melee mongo is on top of you


Freecast ? wtf was cb hitting 60k+ lol not suck?
So still firemage - aff lock oneshotting on 1-2 sec everyone in rbgs atm. Execute hitting 8k and nerfing btw.
05/11/2018 16:00Posted by Bayramsekeri
Freecast ? wtf was cb hitting 60k+ lol not suck?


Yes, beacause the chaos bolt was stacking dmg. So in order to get so high numbers, he needs to freecast.

05/11/2018 16:00Posted by Bayramsekeri
So still firemage - aff lock oneshotting on 1-2 sec everyone in rbgs atm.


Affli locks take "forever" to build up stacks.... you can even see his stacks. Should give you a very VERY clear indicator when you need to have stun/interrupt ready.

Fire mage spamming greater pyro, is your team's fault for not stopping it.

05/11/2018 16:00Posted by Bayramsekeri
Execute hitting 8k and nerfing btw.


and yet you EAT affli locks. Without a healer or personal cd's, affli locks aint worth !@#$ outside the drain life. And its so easy to inrerrupt.....
05/11/2018 10:43Posted by Catchmybolts
Besides the fact that a cb casttime do to traits can be extremly short and removing someons hp by up to 40-50% with such a short casttime is just ridicilous.

poor people that have 40-50k HP

05/11/2018 16:00Posted by Bayramsekeri
Freecast ? wtf was cb hitting 60k+ lol not suck?

this kinda shows how you're unaware of how warlock works
contrantry to popular believe, it's not like Warlock pops 2 cooldowns and trinket and then smash you for 60k Chaos Bolts

Warlock pops 2 cooldowns and trinket and smashes you for 30k at best
so where does this 60k comes from?
well it comes from if you let him free cast during those cooldown
I am not talking about casting a Chaos Bolt during Infernal,
I am talking about letting him cast 10 Chaos Bolts in 30 sec window
then yes, the last one can easily hit for 60k
but if you let him cast 10 chaos bolts in such a short time window when he's clearly bursting and you're clearly not attempting to hide or interrupt him then you suck

he can also spend shards on Rain of Fire, but that's usually not the case, even if it is, he has to build up shards and you can see both Rain of Fire and Infernal too, so you can hide until Infernal is gone
06/11/2018 07:52Posted by Whisperer
so you can hide until Infernal is gone

WTF MUH MELEE DPS WILL DROP THEN, NOT HABBENING!!! NERF WARLOCKS
06/11/2018 08:27Posted by Râlph
06/11/2018 07:52Posted by Whisperer
so you can hide until Infernal is gone

WTF MUH MELEE DPS WILL DROP THEN, NOT HABBENING!!! NERF WARLOCKS


go back to the pve forum
Edit: ow its a destro lock. 50k+ chaosbolts isn't fine as well.


50k cb with cds is fine Retribution, fire mage, moonkin? You have 150k hp. Moonkin and retri can do this with instant spells and they are 1000x better in other aspects.
06/11/2018 10:54Posted by Latexfear
Edit: ow its a destro lock. 50k+ chaosbolts isn't fine as well.


50k cb with cds is fine Retribution, fire mage, moonkin? You have 150k hp. Moonkin and retri can do this with instant spells and they are 1000x better in other aspects.


Yeah and all 3 are complained about. Fire mage one is even 5 second base cast without anyway to reduce it.

No spec should be able to do multiple 50k+ hits after each other.
poor people that have 40-50k HP


???

ive seen bolts hitting up to 60-80k on 155k hp
06/11/2018 11:13Posted by Rychi
No spec should be able to do multiple 50k+ hits after each other.

They should when they are easy to shut down.

But since blizzard these days caters to bad players who cant even do basic stuff like run away, los or save their cc they have repeatedly nerfed chaos bolt even though locks are on the bottom both in pvp and pve
06/11/2018 12:09Posted by Râlph
But since blizzard these days caters to bad players who cant even do basic stuff like run away, los or save their cc they have repeatedly nerfed chaos bolt


This!.... And look how well THAT went for the pvp situation.

Chaos bolt has always done good dmg, but it was never a problem beacause EVERYONE could either stop it, or line it. But suddenly it becomes a problem.
06/11/2018 11:13Posted by Rychi
Yeah and all 3 are complained about.

Rightfully so, locking out Mage means you will just delay his cast while he will CC you.
And the other simply do that much damage with instant cast abilities.
I think there is huge reason between risking being lockout to literally everything and if not you do 35% someone's HP and stunning somebody with long HoJ and striking him twice in stun and do 100k dmg while he does nothing.

06/11/2018 11:13Posted by Rychi
Fire mage one is even 5 second base cast without anyway to reduce it.

In one sentence you were able to lie twice. Wow.
Why do so many people speak here about thinks they clearly know nothing about?
Greater Pyro is 4.5 second base cast and there are ways to reduce it even to 2 seconds.

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